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Madar writes: "Who in their right mind wants to talk about, think about, or read a short essay about ... civilian war casualties? What a bummer, this topic, especially since our Afghan, Iraq, and other ongoing wars were advertised as uplifting acts of philanthropy: wars to spread security, freedom, democracy, human rights, gender equality, the rule of law, etc."

Army Pfc. Bradley Manning leaves a military hearing for his alleged role in the WikiLeaks case, 12/21/11. (photo: Patrick Semansky/AP)
Army Pfc. Bradley Manning leaves a military hearing for his alleged role in the WikiLeaks case, 12/21/11. (photo: Patrick Semansky/AP)



Bradley Manning, Washington's Favorite Scapegoat

By Chase Madar, TomDispatch

22 January 12

 

ho in their right mind wants to talk about, think about, or read a short essay about ... civilian war casualties? What a bummer, this topic, especially since our Afghan, Iraq, and other ongoing wars were advertised as uplifting acts of philanthropy: wars to spread security, freedom, democracy, human rights, gender equality, the rule of law, etc.

A couple hundred thousand dead civilians have a way of making such noble ideals seem like dollar-store tinsel. And so, throughout our decade-long foreign policy debacle in the Greater Middle East, we in the U.S. have generally agreed that no one shall commit the gaucherie of dwelling on (and "dwelling on" = fleetingly mentioned) civilian casualties. Washington elites may squabble over some things, but as for foreigners killed by our numerous wars, our Beltway crew adheres to a sullen code of omertà.

Club rules do, however, permit one loophole: Washington officials may bemoan the nightmare of civilian casualties-but only if they can be pinned on a 24-year-old Army private first class named Bradley Manning.

Pfc. Manning, you will remember, is the young soldier who is soon to be court-martialed for passing some 750,000 military and diplomatic documents, a large chunk of them classified, to the website WikiLeaks. Among those leaks, there was indeed some serious stuff about how Americans dealt with civilians in invaded countries. For instance, the documents revealed that the U.S. military, then the occupying force in Iraq, did little or nothing to prevent Iraqi authorities from torturing prisoners in a variety of gruesome ways, sometimes to death.

Then there was that gun-sight video-unclassified but buried in classified material-of an American Apache helicopter opening fire on a crowd on a Baghdad street, gunning down a dozen men, including two Reuters employees, and injuring more, including children. There were also those field reports about how jumpy American soldiers repeatedly shot down civilians at roadside checkpoints; about night raids gone wrong both in Iraq and Afghanistan; and a count of thousands of dead Iraqi civilians, a tally whose existence the U.S. military had previously denied possessing.

Together, these leaks and many others offered a composite portrait of military and political debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan whose grinding theme has been civilian casualties, a fact not much noted here in the U.S. A tiny number of low-ranking American soldiers have been held to account for rare instances of premeditated murder of civilians, but most of the troops who kill civilians in the midst of the chaos of war are not tried, much less convicted. We don’t talk about these cases a lot either. On the other hand, officials of all types make free with lusty condemnations of Bradley Manning, whose leaks are luridly credited with potential (though not actual) deaths.

Putting Lives in Danger

"[WikiLeaks] might already have on their hands the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family," said Admiral Mike Mullen, then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on the release of the Afghan War Logs in July 2010. This was, of course, the same Admiral Mullen who had endorsed a major escalation of the war in Afghanistan, which would lead to a tremendous "surge" in casualties among civilians and soldiers alike. Here are counts-undoubtedly undercounts, in fact-of real Afghan corpses that, at least in part, resulted from the policy he supported: 2,412 in 2009, 2,777 in 2010, 1,462 in the first half 2011, according to the U.N. Assistance Mission to Afghanistan. As far as anyone knows, here are the corpses that resulted from the release of those WikiLeaks documents: 0. (And don’t forget, the stalemate war with the Taliban has not budged in the period since that surge.) Who, then, has blood on his hands, Pfc. Manning-or Admiral Mullen?

Of course the admiral is hardly alone. In fact, whole tabernacle choirs have joined in the condemnation of Manning and WikiLeaks for "causing" carnage, thanks to their disclosures.

Robert Gates, who served as secretary of defense under George W. Bush and then Barack Obama, also spoke sternly of Manning’s leaks, accusing him of "moral culpability." He added, "And that’s where I think the verdict is ‘guilty’ on WikiLeaks. They have put this out without any regard whatsoever for the consequences."

This was, of course, the same Robert Gates who pushed for escalation in Afghanistan in 2009 and, in March 2011, flew to the Kingdom of Bahrain to offer his own personal "reassurance of support" to a ruling monarchy already busy shooting and torturing nonviolent civilian protesters. So again, when it comes to blood and indifference to consequences, Bradley Manning-or Robert Gates?

Nor have such attitudes been confined to the military. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accused Manning’s (alleged) leak of 250,000 diplomatic cables of being "an attack on the international community" that "puts people’s lives in danger, threatens our national security, and undermines our efforts to work with other countries to solve shared problems."

As a senator, of course, she supported the invasion of Iraq in flagrant contravention of the U.N. Charter. She was subsequently a leading hawk when it came to escalating and expanding the Afghan War, and is now responsible for disbursing an annual $1.3 billion in military aid to Egypt’s ruling junta whose forces have repeatedly opened fire on nonviolent civilian protesters. So who’s been attacking the international community and putting lives in danger, Bradley Manning-or Hillary Clinton?

Harold Koh, former Yale Law School dean, liberal lion, and currently the State Department’s top legal adviser, has announced that the same leaked diplomatic cables "could place at risk the lives of countless innocent individuals-from journalists to human rights activists and bloggers to soldiers to individuals providing information to further peace and security."

This is the same Harold Koh who, in March 2010, provided a tortured legal rationale for the Obama administration’s drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia, despite the inevitable and well-documented civilian casualties they cause. So who is risking the lives of countless innocent individuals, Bradley Manning-or Harold Koh?

Much of the media have clambered aboard the bandwagon, blaming WikiLeaks and Manning for damage done by wars they once energetically cheered on.

In early 2011, to pick just one example from the ranks of journalism, New Yorker writer George Packer professed his horror that WikiLeaks had released a memo marked "secret/noforn" listing spots throughout the world of vital strategic or economic interest to the United States. Asked by radio host Brian Lehrer whether this disclosure had crossed a new line by making a gratuitous gift to terrorists, Packer replied with an appalled yes.

Now, among the "secrets" contained in this document are the facts that the Strait of Gibraltar is a vital shipping lane and that the Democratic Republic of the Congo is rich in minerals. Have we Americans become so infantilized that factoids of basic geography must be considered state secrets? (Maybe best not to answer that question.) The "threat" of this document’s release has since been roundly debunked by various military intellectuals.

Nevertheless, Packer’s response was instructive. Here was a typical liberal hawk, who had can-canned to the post-9/11 drumbeat of war as a therapeutic wake-up call from "the bland comforts of peace," now affronted by WikiLeaks’ supposed recklessness. Civilian casualties do not seem to have been on Packer’s mind when he supported the invasion of Iraq, nor has he written much about them since.

In an enthusiastic 2006 New Yorker essay on counterinsurgency warfare, for example, the very words "civilian casualties" never come up, despite their centrality to COIN theory, practice, and history. It is a fact that, as Operation Enduring Freedom shifted to counterinsurgency tactics in 2009, civilian casualties in Afghanistan skyrocketed. So, for that matter, have American military casualties. (More than half of U.S. military deaths in Afghanistan occurred in the past three years.)

Liberal hawks like Packer may consider WikiLeaks out of bounds, but really, who in these last years has been the most reckless, Bradley Manning-or George Packer and some of his pro-war colleagues at the New Yorker like Jeffrey Goldberg (who has since left for the Atlantic Monthly, where he’s been busily clearing a path for war with Iran) and editor David Remnick?

Centrist and liberal nonprofit think tanks have been no less selectively blind when it comes to civilian carnage. Liza Goitein, a lawyer at the liberal-minded Brennan Center at NYU Law School, has also taken out after Bradley Manning. In the midst of an otherwise deft diagnosis of Washington’s compulsive urge to over-classify everything-the federal government classifies an amazing 77 million documents a year-she pauses just long enough to accuse Manning of "criminal recklessness" for putting civilians named in the Afghan War logs in peril-"a disclosure," as she puts it, "that surely endangers their safety."

It’s worth noting that, until the moment Goitein made this charge, not a single report or press release issued by the Brennan Center has ever so much as uttered a mention of civilian casualties caused by the U.S. military. The absence of civilian casualties is almost palpable in the work of the Brennan Center’s program in "Liberty and National Security." For example, this program’s 2011 report "Rethinking Radicalization," which explored effective, lawful ways to prevent American Muslims from turning terrorist, makes not a single reference to the tens of thousands of well-documented civilian casualties caused by American military force in the Muslim world, which according to many scholars is the prime mover of terrorist blowback. The report on how to combat the threat of Muslim terrorists, written by Pakistan-born Faiza Patel, does not, in fact, even contain the words "Iraq," "Afghanistan," "drone strike," "Pakistan" or "civilian casualties."

This is almost incredible, because terrorists themselves have freely confessed that what motivated their acts of wanton violence has been the damage done by foreign military occupation back home or simply in the Muslim world. Asked by a federal judge why he tried to blow up Times Square with a car bomb in May 2010, Pakistani-American Faisal Shahzad answered that he was motivated by the civilian carnage the U.S. had caused in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. How could any report about "rethinking radicalization" fail to mention this? Although the Brennan Center does much valuable work, Goitein’s selective finger-pointing on civilian casualties is emblematic of a blindness to war’s consequences widespread among American institutions.

American Military Whistleblowers

Knowledge may indeed have its risks, but how many civilian deaths can actually be traced to the WikiLeaks revelations? How many military deaths? To the best of anyone’s knowledge, not a single one. After much huffing and puffing, the Pentagon has quietly denied-and then denied again-that there is any evidence at all of the Taliban targeting the Afghan civilians named in the leaked war logs.

In the end, the "grave risks" involved in the publication of the War Logs and of those State Department documents have been wildly exaggerated. Embarrassment, yes. A look inside two grim wars and the workings of imperial diplomacy, yes. Blood, no.

On the other hand, the grave risks that were hidden in those leaked documents, as well as in all the other government distortions, cover-ups, and lies of the past decade, have been graphically illustrated in aortal red. The civilian carnage caused by our rush to war in Iraq and by our deeply entrenched stalemate of a war in Afghanistan (and the Pakistani tribal borderlands) is not speculative or theoretical but all-too real.

And yet no one anywhere has been held to much account: not in the political class, not in the military, not in the think tanks, not among the scholars, nor the media. Only one individual, it seems, will pay, even if he actually spilled none of the blood. Our foreign policy elites seem to think Bradley Manning is well-cast for the role of fall guy and scapegoat. This is an injustice.

Someday, it will be clearer to Americans that Pfc. Manning has joined the ranks of great American military whistleblowers like Dan Ellsberg (who was first in his class at Marine officer training school); Vietnam War infantryman Ron Ridenhour, who blew the whistle on the My Lai massacre; and the sailors and marines who, in 1777, reported the torture of British captives by their politically connected commanding officer. These servicemen, too, were vilified in their times. Today, we honor them, as someday Pfc. Manning will be honored.

Chase Madar is the author of The Passion of Bradley Manning, to be published by OR Books in February. He is an attorney in New York, a TomDispatch regular, and a frequent contributor to the London Review of Books, Le Monde Diplomatique, American Conservative Magazine, and CounterPunch. (To listen to Timothy MacBain’s latest Tomcast audio interview in which Madar discusses the coming trial of Bradley Manning, click here, or download it to your iPod here.) He tweets @ChMadar.

 

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+52 # tomo 2012-01-22 12:02
Chase Madar is absolutely right. I hope there will be enough Chase Madars around once the military begins rounding up for indefinite detention anyone who, like Bradley Manning, has the courage to tell it as it is.

Truth to tell, the great sin of Bradley Manning--if the so-called allegations are right--is that he tried to let Americans know what is going on. The rest of the world already knew. It was only we who live in the bubble of American exceptionalism who needed to be told.

When it comes to a question of who has blood on their hands, John Kerry, Diane Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, and yes, Barack Obama are among the ones to whose hands we should look for blood which the oceans of the world cannot wipe clean.

That Americans would even consider re-nominating as Commander-in-Chief the man who first persecuted and is now prosecuting Bradley Manning is despicable. In so doing, they are ratifying his effort to keep them ignorant. (Maybe they think the blood won't stain THEM so long as they keep themselves from finding out about it.)
Those who abet Obama in the PERSECUTION of Bradley Manning forgo all ground for protesting against "indefinite retention" if it comes to them or theirs.
 
 
+54 # Richard Raznikov 2012-01-22 12:19
Worth noting. Ron Paul calls Manning an American hero. All the other candidates, including the President, want to figuratively or literally hang him.
 
 
+8 # Billy Bob 2012-01-22 20:32
Good for Ron Paul.

I'm still not voting for him. I don't have enough money to believe our government doesn't have the right and responsibility to protect the people who elected it.
 
 
+1 # Jmac 2012-01-22 22:09
please tell us when this quote happened.
 
 
+58 # fredboy 2012-01-22 12:21
Manning didn't shoot innocent civilians from a gunship. What happened to those who did?
 
 
+27 # tomo 2012-01-22 12:55
No doubt, fredboy, you ask your question rhetorically: "What happened to those in the helicopter?" The Wiki-Leaks video I watched says they were found to have acted in full accord with our "rules of engagement," and no negative action was taken in their regard. I worry particularly for the young man who said, after the strafing of the children in the "Good Samaritan" van, "This will teach them not to bring their children to a battle." The young man was himself a boy--and he had brought the battle to these younger children. The dilemma the young man faces through the remainder of his life is either to deny that this was the case (and live with the dreadful burdens such denial entails), or acknowledge this was the case (and live with the pain that accompanies such an insight). I regard this young man as one of the casualties of this tragic event. That our government and our President tried to cover it up shows how despicable they are. That people, knowing this, would vote to re-elect such a President would show, of course, how despicable they are.
 
 
+1 # Jim Rocket 2012-01-23 11:25
I can't disagree with you but could you suggest someone better to vote for? ...someone who has a chance of winning?
 
 
+43 # Erdajean 2012-01-22 12:26
It may be only on his grave that Bradley Manning gets the laurels he deserves -- he would have been murdered long ago had his tormentors not hoped to use his suffering for an "example" to others with his "misguided" notions of humanity and justice.
May the morality of his cause be recognized, someday -- but also, may the criminals he has exposed be "recognized," as well, and dumped into Hell -- with their great leaders. Is it not about time?
 
 
+34 # in deo veritas 2012-01-22 12:49
Except for Korea every war we have been involved in since has been the result of a giant lie designed to benefit Wall Street and the defense industry. Gulf of Tonkin fabrication, WMD's, etc. We indeed have been the most gullible public on the planet and yet thinking we were above all the crimes being committed. No wonder the civilized world puts us in the same category as "Hitler's willing executioners". Why we expect God to bless this country unless we redeem ourselves is beyond me.If the crimes exposed by Manning had not been committed, there would be no issue would there? If we hadn't been lied to about them, there would be no issue would there? When you think about Watergate and a man being hounded out of office for a coverup that neither injured nor killed anyone, then what has been exposed is indeed tantamount to war crimes or crimes against humanity. The morality of Manning's cause and the total immorality of this country's actions must be recognized NOW not someday in a history book if those won't be forbidden ala Fahrenheit 451!
 
 
+6 # Doubter 2012-01-22 18:18
Hell, I wouldn't be in the least surprised if 'we' hadn't provoked the North Koreans into war; as our industrialists helped finance Hitler.
 
 
+41 # John Locke 2012-01-22 13:10
Brilliant article and I would add that the US makes anything Top Secret that will expose some politician, whether corruption, bribery or criminal acts.. There is a legitimate need to make some documents top secret, but our government officials abuse that privalege, and the documents Manning is alleged to have leaked are documents that had NO right to be marked top Secret in the first place, just as the states secret defense was used to block men tortured by us from being compensated. Manning is a hero to the 99% and a threat to business as usual in Washington...Maybe it's time Washington should adopt some morals
 
 
+2 # John Lewis 2012-01-23 10:35
I do agree with you that the article is brillant. Washington, to adopt some morale, has first to stop lying right and left. The biggest lie in the "land of the free" is to declare that "no one is above the law" because if true, the law in the USA must have very many levels, one for the common citizen and many others for the rulers and for the 1% of what constitutes the "elite". In my opinion the US government starts smelling like NAZI Germany. Don't you think?
 
 
+27 # Hexalpa 2012-01-22 13:19
"Shooting the Messenger" is always so much easier and more pleasant (except for the Messenger, of course), than facing up to the evil we, as a nation, have done (and are continuing to do) around the world. Americans owe a debt of thanks to men like Bradly Manning who have "shined a light" on the killings of thousands of civilians that are seen simply as "collateral damage" by the people in charge of executing these "wars of choice"... wars that ought not ever have happened. And still, the killing goes on.
 
 
+10 # Hexalpa 2012-01-22 13:20
Quoting
Worth noting. Ron Paul calls Manning an American hero. All the other candidates, including the President, want to figuratively or literally hang him.


Richard, this is the single best reason that I, a Democrat, can think of, that would ever tempt me to vote for Ron P.
 
 
-5 # Jmac 2012-01-22 22:07
can you tell us when ron paul said this or is it something your tinfoil hat told you to say?
 
 
+25 # David Starr 2012-01-22 13:34
I commend Pfc. Bradley Manning for having the spine to do what other U.S. soldiers have done: Taking a great risk in bucking a powerful status quo, as w/ other soldiers who have come to oppose U.S. imperial wars through protesting, info leaks a la Manning, refusing to go, I dare say even dodging the draft (e.g., in the 1960s), etc. All this actually takes just as much, if not more courage, than being a blind, ultranationalis t, puritanical kind of patriot. Besides Manning's situation, Chase Madar also points out something just as important: How neolibs are just as imperial, war-like & Orwellianly hypocritical as neocons.
 
 
-46 # joehonick@gmail.com 2012-01-22 13:38
I am as frequent critic of our military operations, coming as I do as someone who served a total of about 14 years regular Arjy and Reserve time and as an Enlisted and Officer. Manning however is not some poor innocent. Doing what he did at his level suggests he purposely signed up for service to undermine these operations. As to the article, it is little more than a sales job for the book.
 
 
+22 # Hexalpa 2012-01-22 17:13
Quoting
... coming as I do as someone who served a total of about 14 years Doing what he did at his level suggests he purposely signed up for service to undermine these operations...
Coming as I do as someone who served in VietNam as an enlisted man and as an NCO, allow me to suggest that you are full of prunes. There is NOTHING in the public record that suggests that Pvt Manning "planned" to do this "from the Git-go". That sounds like pure paranoia to me.
 
 
+12 # Billy Bob 2012-01-22 20:29
Thank you for the breath of honesty.

...Coming as I do as someone who never bought into the military b.s. since I hit puberty and was informed by older relatives who served in Vietnam and WWII about how the military actually operates...

Don't members of the military take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution? I don't recall an oath to protect the reputations of war criminals who happen to be their superiors.

Maybe Manning went into the military with the pre-concieved notion that he would actually do what the military claims.
 
 
-16 # Jmac 2012-01-22 22:05
if your "family" so warned you off about the military i wonder about the characther of those persons.
 
 
+2 # bugbuster 2012-01-23 10:14
Which branch did you serve in? Which war? Have you been under fire? Are you worthy to judge real veterans?
 
 
0 # bugbuster 2012-01-23 10:32
What branch did you serve in? Which war? Were you in combat?
 
 
+1 # John Lewis 2012-01-23 19:36
Being 14 years in the army does not make you a prime witness of what Pfc. Manning did or did not. Being an enlisted officer doesn't give you any more credibility. We all know of some officers who lied or committed crimes worst than what Manning could have committed and got away with it... Remember someone by the names of Calley, Medina? If I were you I would rather shut-up and be thought of a fool than open my mouth and dispell all doubts.
 
 
+8 # motamanx 2012-01-22 14:14
I can't believe Obama wants to hang Manning. I though Obama was about transparency.
 
 
+5 # LML 2012-01-22 22:35
I believe it.
Sadly he'd do anything he thought would help him get re-elected
 
 
+24 # Carolyn 2012-01-22 14:17
The truth that Bradly Manning discovered and brought into the Light comes from a far deeper place within the soul of man than the dualistic, judgemental consciousness of men can allow to exist.
That compassion is the highest form of love and that human beings are here on earth to evolve to the realization of our oneness as Life on earth cannot be understood in a culture that has no higher ideal than to maintain its existence through physical force.
Bradley Manning has been openly tortured and humiliated for months, prior to his trial. President Obama has been fully aware of it. As an elder, alive during the time of FDR and President Eisenhower, I see the handling of this case as a display of the degradation of American integrity and the American system of justice.
 
 
-14 # Jmac 2012-01-22 22:04
yes he looks very tortured, being well fed and treated with kid gloves after being moved to a solitary cell after he was in danger from his OWN cell mates that wanted to kick his ass. Irinic for murderes, rapists and other felons in the miitary pen.
 
 
+22 # Bev 2012-01-22 14:39
Yes Bradley Manning is a true hero who has tried to wake us up to the abomination, the hell of war.

As long as we glorify war we will never have peace. We train and reward our youth to kill,using every psychological technique possible to overcome the innate horror and guilt of killing another human. Then we are appalled when we have an accelerated suicide rate and others return home profoundly disturbed and continue the crimes they were so well trained for in the military. The settlers of what became the USA brought with them the arrogance and self appointed superiority of previous cultures and thought nothing of killing and stealing the land of the native Americans who inhabited this land nor of importing slaves also felt to be inferior from still another continent.
When will we learn that we are all one human race and what we do to one we do to us all?
 
 
-20 # Jmac 2012-01-22 22:01
So does that mean you're going to give your possesions back to the Indians and give all your money to Blacks to amke you feel better?
Let me know how that works out for you.
 
 
+26 # lcarrier 2012-01-22 15:18
Gates is guilty; Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their neocon backers are guilty. The trouble is, that if they're not picked up by an international court, they'll skate free and Private Manning will be held holding the bag.
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-01-22 15:28
Here's something I've yet to hear ANYONE say:

WE WON THE WAR.

SERIOUSLY, IT'S TRUE.

There IS NO war. The "war" was won before Obama entered office, unless the mission was to kill bin laden. Now, with the war over, the country we invaded and took over is (surprised) still filled with hate-filled people who want us out. The football game is over, but the opposing team is throwing rocks at our bus.

According to the logic that we've yet to "win". We could NEVER win any war until all of the enemy decided to say, "you're right! We were wrong! How can we help you protect your bases, wells, and mines?" As long as there is any resistence whatsoever, we haven't "won".

By that same logic, there are several American cities that still "haven't been won".
 
 
+19 # tm7devils 2012-01-22 16:37
I noticed tha Manning was dressed up pretty spiffy for his Military hearing...why didn't they march him to it in his shorts...his only attire 24/7 while behind bars? Oh! that's right...photo op.
His captors and jailers give new meaning to the term 'dim bulbs'.
Hang in there Pvt Manning, a lot of great men had to endure hardships in their lives (Mandela spent 27 yrs behind bars)...we will try to make sure you don't have to pay a similar price.
 
 
-25 # Jmac 2012-01-22 22:00
really? you compare a little coward like Manning to mandela?
 
 
+6 # David Starr 2012-01-23 10:35
How about if I compare you to a young man who spent some time behind bars & while there wrote his "masterpiece," Mein Kampf?
 
 
+1 # between 2012-01-22 16:55
He is an american hero! That's not the only reason why I will vote for Ron Paul!
 
 
+10 # Cabbagehead 2012-01-22 17:57
Obama can't expect to get support from his first batch of voters if he doesn't let Manning go (time served hipocracy). But if he does that, the military rah-rah bloc will crucify Obama, and we know he flinches easily. This well-reasoned article names the war criminals among our own "liberals," but don't expect justice and retribution, as family values are defined only by the one per cent.
 
 
+1 # LML 2012-01-22 22:37
Sad but true....
 
 
+7 # MidwestTom 2012-01-22 18:00
The biggest question is why are we even at war in Afghanistan? Why have we sent troops to Israel? If you think the American people want this, I have a bridge for sale. Our government is doing what the NYC and Washington dual citizenship holders want done. Eliminate the Fed and our troubles decrease drastically.
 
 
+3 # Billy Bob 2012-01-22 18:36
Read the PNAC agenda. It's pretty easy to find. It answers all of your questions.
 
 
-12 # Jmac 2012-01-22 22:12
you mean the propoganda that comes from the other end of the spectrum and is full of just as much junk as the right wing?
 
 
+3 # David Starr 2012-01-23 10:44
No, the propaganda that comes from the patriotictly puritanical fond of sniping using cheapshot one-liners like yourself who think they've risen above it all. Truly, you know that the PNAC agenda Billy Bob mentions isn't from the Left, right? (Or is it useless for me to ask?)
 
 
+1 # Hexalpa 2012-01-23 06:17
I agreed with everything (well, almost) that you said here...until I got to your LAST LINE (which I WISH I had read before giving you that (premature) "Thumbs Up). Not only is your remark about "the Fed" a non sequitur (i.e. your "conclusion" has absolutely NOTHING to do with "that which preceded it"),....it is pure "baloney". The Fed has had much to do with keeping us (thus far) out of the "mess" that the Euro countries are in. Eliminate the Fed, and we tremble on the edge of another Depression.
 
 
+10 # between 2012-01-22 18:17
Agree a 100%! Why are we the ones to send troops everywhere and kill people! The dictators were put there by the US in the first place!
 
 
+6 # Billy Bob 2012-01-22 21:10
Sometimes our puppet dictators don't do the job fast enough.
 
 
+3 # Pkahn 2012-01-22 18:37
One extra issue that has not been addressed is the lack of appropriate security that allowed the Wikileaks. Why aren't those responsible for information security systems being brought to trial? This is totally separate from the " American hero" aspect.
 
 
-18 # Jmac 2012-01-22 21:58
So is it couple hundred thousand of iraqi casualties or a thousand? your story had me confused and absolutely am crazy in that I love FACTS not heresay and conjecture. Oh wait sint that what your story is complaining about?
Bradley Manning should be courtmartialed and punished as seen fit. he didnt reveal some horrible truth that would change the outcome of the war.
He was just a bitter little tool that had an opportunity to stick it to the man because his boyfriend pissed him off and now he's facing the consequences, if he's considered a crusader then we're all screwed.
He betrayed a sacred trust that was given to him not to release secrets that could damage the country and what did he reveal that we didn't already know?
 
 
+1 # bugbuster 2012-01-23 10:08
Calm down. Bradley Manning's created a difficult public relations challenge for the military, nothing more. The military needs to get its own house in order. Since it became all-volunteer, there has been nobody but the foxes to guard the chicken coop.
 
 
+4 # Jim Rocket 2012-01-23 11:19
You really don't understand the issue, do you? Manning has not damaged the country at all. He merely embarrassed the "empire" and some warpigs. Those are the people who have betrayed their oath to the constitution. To them war is just a lucrative business and will continue to be one as long as the pesky peasants don't figure it out.
 
 
0 # mebemo 2012-01-24 11:27
Quoting
He was just a bitter little tool that had an opportunity to stick it to the man because his boyfriend pissed him off and now he's facing the consequences, if he's considered a crusader then we're all screwed.
He betrayed a sacred trust that was given to him not to release secrets that could damage the country and what did he reveal that we didn't already know?


To paraphrase Mark Twain, it's better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.
 
 
+3 # William Brandon Shanley 2012-01-23 05:16
About Iraq, a nation we destroyed, a Lancet study published on 11 October 2006, estimated 654,965 excess deaths related to the war, or 2.5% of the population, through the end of June 2006. The new study applied similar methods and involved surveys between May 20 and July 10, 2006.[4] More households were surveyed, allowing for a 95% confidence interval of 392,979 to 942,636 excess Iraqi deaths.

Americans are living inside imaginary stories of reality that are killing life: fantasy elections, fictitious capital, false flag terror, faux reality, phony wars, and a fascist mindset being reported as real.

We will likely never hear from Bradley Manning, not only because he is being driven insane, but also because knows he's a patsy, the fall guy, to give credence to Wikileaks and misdirect the public into believing it to be an attack on America, when it fact it was a limited hangout by the CIA to attack its enemies. Just consider who is not harmed by Wikileaks-- US allies like Israel in the midst of the Gaza slaughter an not a peep. Nor, about 9/11.

These and other issues will be taken up in the docudrama, America's Divine Comedy, wherein Dante takes us on a journey through the Inferno, Purgatory and Paradise of America's soul. You can see a video introduction here: http://igg.me/p/52086?a=322219
 
 
+2 # bugbuster 2012-01-23 10:05
The video sound track at http://collateralmurder.com/
reveals what the military would rather we not hear: the mindset and morality fostered by today's US military. Maybe yesterday's too.

If the soldiers fielded with our tax money must be callous bigots to survive, then so be it. They should know before joining the military what the real moral climate is. They should know who they will be when they go there.

If they consider it heroic to blow away somebody carrying a camera while they pretend to think it's a weapon, then I can't help them.

But if my congressman ever so much as breathes a word in favor of supporting this sort of thing, I will do all in my power to fire him.
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-01-23 18:04
I am pro Manning but he knew that if he got caught there were consequences.
Sorry but that is the Law, it is for everyone. I believe those who torture, spit on dead corpses, should be in court also, unfortunately we would be putting our own in those Courts as too many did it.

I believe this man did a great thing, he took a really big chance to show the World the Truth behind War. But unfortunately, it did not change the World, People will continue to go to War and Kill People. Sadly, he will pay a price that Criminals like cheney and bush should be facing.

I wish him well, I hope we can see past our own prejudice, understand that this kid did what he thought was Morally Right, and get on with our lives. He is releived of duty, gets some time to cool down, then goes gets a job and helps us clean up the USA. I Salute you, PFC Manning for doing what no man has done in this last decade, show us for what we are. I hope you learn what you should not become....revengeful, hateful like those you have unveiled.

You Mr Manning have the ability to Change the World. I will be waiting for you to help us do just that, one step at a time. Thank You for your Bravery.

Rest of You do not breed Hate, he needs support to get him thru and back in the World.
 

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