Excerpt: "Sarah Palin wants to show to the Republican right that she is the true keeper of the Ronald Reagan flame by meeting the late president's closest ally on the world stage.... 'Lady Thatcher will not be seeing Sarah Palin. That would be belittling for Margaret. Sarah Palin is nuts.'"
Sarah Palin was the featured speaker at a Republican rally in Anaheim, California, 10/17/10. (photo: AP)
Thatcher Refuses to Meet "Nuts" Palin
08 June 11
Margaret Thatcher to Sarah Palin: 'Don't bother dropping by.'
Allies of former prime minister regard darling of Tea Party movement as a frivolous figure unworthy of an audience.
arah Palin wants to show to the Republican right that she is the true keeper of the Ronald Reagan flame by meeting the late president's closest ally on the world stage.
A meeting with Margaret Thatcher in the centenary year of Reagan's birth would be the perfect way of launching her bid for the Republican nomination for the 2012 US presidential election.
This is what Palin told Christina Lamb in the Sunday Times:
I am going to Sudan in July and hope to stop in England on the way. I am just hoping Mrs Thatcher is well enough to see me as I so admire her.
It appears that the former prime minister has no intention of meeting the darling of the Tea Party movement. Andy McSmith reported in the Independent this morning that Palin is likely to be "thwarted" on the grounds that Thatcher, 86, rarely makes public appearances.
It would appear that the reasons go deeper than Thatcher's frail health. Her allies believe that Palin is a frivolous figure who is unworthy of an audience with the Iron Lady. This is what one ally tells me:
Lady Thatcher will not be seeing Sarah Palin. That would be belittling for Margaret. Sarah Palin is nuts.
Thatcher will show the level she punches at when she attends the unveiling of a statue of Ronald Reagan outside the US embassy in Grosvenor Square on Independence day on 4 July. This is what her ally told me:
Margaret is focusing on Ronald Reagan and will attend the unveiling of the statue. That is her level.
No doubt a rebuff from Thatcher will delight Andrew Sullivan, the creator of The Dish blog, who regards Palin as a dangerous lightweight.
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Others in her "camp" are speaking for her.
Nan
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Personally, I doubt this story on multiple levels.
So did Reagan.
Now you're confusing Superman(Reeve) with Revere. This was not Ms. Palin's mistake.
I digress
Obama got America into Libya's civil war and we're now losing.
Obama never closed Gitmo.
Obama never got us out of Iraq.
Obama massively increased our military in A-stan.
Obama has set the stage for 20 years of economic ruin.
Perhaps, Obama should develop Alheizmers.
It's quite apparent that you are showing signs of early onset Alheizmers. Dementia is not something you should ignore
I guess it's cause you can't debate the facts.
Your man, War Monger Obama, has failed to keep his promises on Gitmo, Iraq, A-stan, Renditions, and, on top of all that, he bombed Libya.
Oh well, what's a Lib to do? You can't even trust Obama to do what he promised.
Oh, wait, I know, it's all Bush's fault.
Reagan admin supported the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan to give Russia their own Vietnam. After we trained Afghans & other Arabs in the art of guerilla warfare - Russia retreated and the U.S. abandoned Afghanistan which turned it into a failed state allowing Taliban to grow and flourish and leads directly to events of 9/11.
Like any pessimistic Repubs you think we are losing in Libya - but only time will tell. Remember way back when, when any talk of GW Bush failing was unpatriotic and unAmerican? You are the traitor now.
Bush43 opened Gitmo and began torturing the guilty and innocent alike there & abroad. These are war crimes. Obama hasn't closed it but apparently not torturing to my knowledge.
You blame Obama for continuing Bush43 mistakes when leaving abruptly could be worse?
Reagan/Bush deregulation and spending almost bankrupted the country, Clinton admin gave us a surplus, Bush43 tax cuts and wars bankrupted the country again. Be patriotic and give Obama the benefit of the doubt until 2016.
Do you know why President Carter picked up the phone and called the Soviet Premier, personally, threatening to stop him dead in his tracks with a pre-emptive nuclear attack if the Soviets dared to look one step past Afghanistan (Pakistan)?
Reagan seemed to be in early stages of Alzheimer's soon after taking office. He quite often recited movie roles and scenarios as if they were real life events. There was an interesting "60 Minutes" segment done on this years ago.
During his debates with former VP Mondale during 1984 election, Reagan seemed well coached on all the issues, had his trademark humor and zingers like "Where's the beef?" & that he wouldn't take issue with his opponents "youth or inexperience" to deal with age related issues. It was only during a final question when asked something about his American Dream that Reagan answered by talking of driving down the California Coast. He became lost and confused in the middle of the story and I thought people would see there was a problem. I was wrong.
Also think that GHW Bush took advantage of this and was the real driver of behind the Iran/Contra scandal. When I saw the videotape of Reagan answering questions regarding Iran/Contra scandal and remember him being visibly upset and almost in tears because he couldn't recall signing specific documents related to the scandal. He was so convincing, I knew it couldn't be attributed to his mediocre acting skills. I have not seen this video ever again after initial viewing in late 1980's.
The truth is, Planet Earth is doom. It will take another half century to prove this point, but it gonna happen. Mean while, Americans basks in igorance bliss!
Are you implying that you are incredulous that a person who has lost their mental facilities would refuse to meet her, i.e., that only a person who has lost their mind would want to meet her?!
PS I refuse to meet Palin, and I definitely don't have any mental disease.
Don't forget, there are degrees of Alzheimer's, as with any similar illness. And if that really is Thatcher's assessment of Palin, the Iron Lady still sounds quite "with it" to me.
Too scary!
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That's not nearly as scary as 4 more years of war monger Obama
o Iraq (we're still there)
o A-stan (he escalated)
o Libya (he bombed)
o Gitmo (still open)
o Renditions (still happening
o Patriot Act (he just renewed it)
o Egypt (he demanded and got 'regime change')
Don't you think Obama should give back his Noble Peace Prize?
It seems as though you are just a troll trying to drum up discontent from Obama's base - because otherwise you should be happy that Obama is apparently staying the course on so many issues - again proving that your precious Bush was right all along. In reality he has few choices due to Bush history of misadventures and going with his gut.
Libya civil war situation is not quite so clear cut but civilians were being killed and Ghadafi has been known as U.S. enemy in the past - so why don't you support this same as Iraq? Definitely could lead to quagmire but is primarily a NATO operation and not primarily another U.S. misadventure. Egypt is another civil war with Egyptians being the driving force. You really think it was Obama demanding regime change that made this happen?
Obama's covert wars in Sudan, Somalia, Yemen, and many other places are in fact worse than Bush's.
Writing from the US, we try.
Unfortunately this has turned back into the "Culture Wars", with the Right Wing here grabbing for power by telling their confused base that the Left is trying to tell them what to do. In effect, the GOP (Grand Old Party or Republicans) are saying to their base "It's ok if you want to support a dolt! Don't let the Democrats tell you that you can't vote for a dunce. Thats your right they want to take away!" and the base is too blind to see this as a power play by the GOP. Any time we try to point out it would be good to have a SMART candidate, the GOP pretends that there is nothing wrong with an "Average" candidate, as they wish Palin was.
I cringe everyday.
Only in the USA, folks.
Palin! Pffffttttt!
However, your headline and article fall into the same misleading devices we decry from Palin particularly and the Right in general...Your headline implies that Margaret Thatcher said she would not meet Palin because she is "nuts." She did not say that...someone else did.Your secondary headline states Margaret Thatcher to Sarah Palin, 'Don't bother dropping by,' as if she said that to her. Obviously when one reads the article we see it is not the case...
Let the right play these games. It is not in our interest to use opinion as fact...Please, this is counter productive.
I, for one, am getting tired of our taking the high road to the bottom of the heap.
"I'm just not sure we on the Left can afford to eschew the tactics that are working so well for the Right"
You can relax. The Left is constantly using the worse tactics possibly. Blaming Conservatives for that insane gun man in Arizona is but just one deplorable case.
I think the Left, and others are not blaming Conservatives for the gunman, but we do recognize that when one public figure (Sarah Palin, who doesn't necessarily speak for all Conservatives) pushes the envelope, those with tenuous connections to reality may feel free to stretch the limits on their outlier postions. Thus when Sarah decide to place bulls eye targets on democrats, include Gabriel Giffords, publicly, in a well funded, national televised political ad, the mentally ill person MAY have been influenced to select Gabriel as his target.
Sarah then goes to great lengths to say that was not her intent, and to question how a 60 second television ad could have this impact. There are those of us who feel she and her political Action Committee would not have spent real money if they doubted the effectiveness of the ad. Perhaps they did not anticipate the direction of the influence, but they are equally as responsible whether their ad and political hyperbole incites people to change their vote or load their gun. If one plays with fire then be prepared to take the compliments of a well cooked meal or the blame of a house aflame.
The big question here - is why in the world did any one ever suggest - or question Palin's use of it. Now that was pathetic beyond sick.
Don't remember her with a mic in her hand suggesting that the folks get a bit bloody, for their cause, as a sitting Democratic congressman did recently.
Now - there may be a perceived, by the left, justifiable reason for it - but there is no question that the vast majority of calls for, and actual violence, in the political arena in this country comes from the far left.
That is not holding the nuts on the right harmless, mind you.
FTR - my response above was about the use of targets and bulls eyes in political literature. It's been the norm. Even the media has used it on screen.
I do remember the supposed "Kill Him" claim. Not a soul was able to substantiate it - including the secret service who was there, and it wasn't to be heard on the tapes. Now - that doesn't mean that nuts say such stuff all the time (both sides).
Once again - it would not be difficult to substantiate that the left's "kill bush - hang bush - bush is a nazi - hitler, etc." occurrences from the liberal protesters and the like, as well as the expressions of the want to kill Bush and Cheney - or watch them die in many horrible ways from liberal and radio folks reside far more in the left than in the right.
There's way too much of it - it is unacceptable from any and all. People on both sides should indeed be able to express their heartfelt emotions, but the real pathetic nasty language and the violent images should be labeled for what they are - "Hate Speech."
Thank you for your comments. You've elevated the debate. It should be obvious that I disagree with your opinion of Palin, but I do respect you commitment to honesty in journalism.
I'll be sure to return the favor and post the same theme on any Right blogs that are likewise less than honest.
Seems like Polish Solidarity hero and Nobel Peace Prize winner the former Polish President Lech Walesa's refusal to meet with another Nobel Prize winner, President Obama of the United States, during Obama's trip to Poland last week, might have interested the US public.
Hmm - did anyone even know that Obama went to Poland?
It really is significant that Lech Walesa did not meet with Obama. I had not heard that. I'd be interested in the reason.
I didn't have a lot of faith in Obama, because the agenda of the neo-cons and neo-liberals is very powerful and presidents are chosen, not voted for, any longer. That's what we should be scrutinizing, rather than bogus entertainers.
Thanks for offering this bit of information.
Unfortunately - this is the nature of our national media. Up to a point (and it's not there yet) they will do all they can to protect him and the Democrats. That's all they do. Their intense constant attention to - scrutiny of - Palin, is simply one of hundreds of angles that they play to protect their own.
Well, for starters they have no control over NPR, PBS, ABC, NBC, CBC (the networks morning and evening news), CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, LA Times, WA Post, Newsweek, Time Mag. They certainly have a friend in Fox, the National Review and the Weekly Standard.
I'm surprised that the media is even covering Rep Weiner's scandal, because he is a Democrat.. but I think it's that point when (like Clinton did, when he pointed his finger at us and lied to our face) Weiner stood there, and sat there in his staged interviews - and lied and lied and lied to their face, and to us, that they finally get it again - that the job is to hold, even them, accountable.
cheers
You also seem to forget that Obama is not alone on the road to recovery, there are Republicans running Congress that have not brought a single jobs to a vote. They have also caused many Obama efforts to be watered down before they would even vote on them. There is also a comparison here with FDR and the efforts of Republicans to persuade him to curtail deficit spending which then drove unemployment rate back up. Seems that this is the case now with debt ceiling issue being raised when any and all spending was OK with these same Repubs during Bush43 era.
Most people following the news know that Obama traveled to Poland but personally wasn't interested and don't know the purpose of trip. Lech Walesa story seems to be a non-issue which you imply has some backstory to it - but seems simply to be that he had a previously planned trip to Italy and didn't care to be used as a photo op for Obama trip.
The news is not Palin, although it's about time someone had the spine to call a pig a pig. It's the Reagan statue dummy......knowing what we now know about Regan, how can we be putting up statues for him? Is this all just to make us suffer daily every time we pass by this thing? Did I have to pay for this statue? Will there be future meetings at the base? Forget Palin, please. She will naturally go away after a time.
This statue thing is all so very wrong.
"If anyone can say he didn't have Alzheimer's, his treating neurosurgeon can, and he didn't."
I'll go with John's view, as he was with him years after he left the presidency.
And Palin never said that. Period. Tina Fey said it. JFTR
You obviously have a very crude understanding of that terrible disease, Alheimer's. It is a long, progressive disease with many stages.
Could anyone possibly do any worse than Obama.
On the Democratic side, the only wars actually won outright by the U.S. in WWI and WWII were both by Democrats. FDR created the New Deal which created the economic engine that drove U.S. success for decades after. Repubs have been trying to dismantle the programs ever since. Now have gotten closer than ever and the economy has been on the brink of collapse ever since 2007. Most Repubs now have stated or agreed that they want Obama to fail and have done almost nothing bipartisan to improve the economy. Sounds like anti-American sentiments to me.
Reagan inherited a disaster; the economy was roaring when he left, with unemployment much lower than when he came in..
Elder Bush caught the next cycle-and left with the economy in a good recovery ..
.. which Clinton inherited - then, promptly ruled over the irrational period of exceptional greed and fraud of the Enron bubble (dot.com) which collapsed in March of 2000. Along the way he laid the ground work and fueled the fire for the housing bubble by empowering HUD to lower lending standards to the floor, and placing radical housing demands on Fannie/Freddie and the banks - as well as establishing the sub-prime market and GSE crisis.Of course, he w/Geithner, Greenspan, Summers, Rubin and Gramm) implemented the famous deregulation - and gave us NAFTA.
Clinton left Bush a disaster and a recession.
Bush left Obama a disaster and a recession.
Now - as those before him, it's Obama's turn to take charge and get the economy and revenue going again.
So far, not so good. Seat-belts.
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Gotta walk you back on that one,Phyllis. I'm a man, and her "cuteness" doesn't move me. She is a disgrace to women, everywhere. A pretty woman with ugly character has no appeal, on my watch. While men in (myself included) are "primarily visual" when it comes to women, we are not all "exclusively visual." To summarize my thoughts on Palin, I will use a popular expression from the "I Love Lucy" show, oft used by Lucy herself; "UUUUUGH!" Palin likes to attack like a pitbull or "mama grizzly," but retreats like a whimpering puppy or orphaned cub in the wild when she is "attacked" herself.
Oh - brilliant. just brilliant.
Now, obviously, as it was almost completely planned out before Cheney became VP, I guess we should start looking for evidence of the visits he made to Bin Laden's camp in Afghanistan while Clinton was sending in all those cruise missiles. Goodness that might be what went wrong with Cheney's heart -- would scare the ----- out of me.
Soo, you think that Cheney was behind the 1st effort to bring down the Twin Towers, back in Feb. of 1993, as well?
Why did we escort the Bin Laden Family out of the USA? Why were they guests at the Texas Compound? Pictures say thousands, Words...
Cheney has No Heart ask any of his Friends
This is like a horror movie we all watched and allowed to happen. I say We Allowed
I believe Ms palin can meet whoever she wants, she is an embarassment to herself and Party not to us. She doesnot represent us.
But I do remember history - remember when the CIA coup, under JFK, put the Baath Party in control in Iraq. JFK hated the Communists, who were set to take control.
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You probably project that it's the other side that speaks so?
As for Thatcher. She is a disgrace herself. Last but not least for her loathsome support for her friend Pinochet. Am just waiting for the book that analyses the widespread and wanton destruction she caused in Britain. A disgrace!
I'm sure that some Germans and Austrians still get dewey-eyed for Hitler but they have come a long way as a nation since WW11, unlike the English, especially in the home counties around London. who also are the ones who like the "Rile" family and all such mush (note the distinction between "English" as opposed to the Scottish and Irish, who'd start another revolution rather than have Reagan OR Thatcher in bronze anywhere, even in municipal toilets). Perhaps this gives some indication of the true nature of the oft-cited "Special Relationship" between the US. and UK; -it's certainly not at the lower levels but as usual, the ol' boy public school establishment in England and robber-barons who run the US.
Interesting fact that both Reagan and Thatcher ended up with Alzheimer's (which I wouldn't even wish on Hitler). Maybe researchers should look for an indicator gene displaying griping ambition and cold-blooded disregard for the electorate, what?
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