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Excerpt: "'I don't mind - I'm used to being an underdog,' the president said in an interview with ABC News. 'And I think that at the end of the day, though, what people are going to say is, who's got a vision for the future that can actually help ordinary families recapture that American dream.'"

President Obama speaks in favor of his $447 billion jobs plan while addressing Coloradans in front of Abraham Lincoln High School, 09/27/11. (photo: John Moore/Getty Images)
President Obama speaks in favor of his $447 billion jobs plan while addressing Coloradans in front of Abraham Lincoln High School, 09/27/11. (photo: John Moore/Getty Images)



Obama to GOP: Bring It On

By Jennifer Agiesta and Ken Thomas, Associated Press

04 October 11

 

aybe even more than the Republicans, President Barack Obama is looking forward to the GOP picking a candidate to challenge him.

For now and months to come, Obama is an incumbent with no specific rival, a campaigner against various forces but not one in particular.

He is running against a staggering economy. And Congress. And himself - that history-making version of Obama that many voters remember from 2008.

The longer it takes for Republicans to rally around a nominee, the more the election remains a referendum on Obama and jobs. That's not what the White House and his campaign eagerly want: a clear choice between the president and another candidate who holds starkly different views about how to improve the economy.

With polls showing his approval rating in the low 40s, Obama even contended on Monday that he's the underdog.

"I don't mind - I'm used to being an underdog," the president said in an interview with ABC News. "And I think that at the end of the day, though, what people are going to say is, who's got a vision for the future that can actually help ordinary families recapture that American dream."

With no control over when he gets an opponent, Obama is now waging what amounts to a proxy campaign against the eventual Republican nominee.

Every time he presents his jobs bill as a choice between helping the middle class or protecting the ultra-rich, every time he tells Democratic donors that his opponents' approach to governing "will fundamentally cripple America," he is previewing a campaign argument that he will apply against whoever his opponent is.

"What the president is saying now compared to what he's going to be saying in May - I think there's going to be a great symmetry between the two," said David Plouffe, an Obama senior adviser in the White House and the manager of Obama's campaign in 2008.

"We don't sit around here saying, 'We wish we had an opponent.' We know that's going to come," Plouffe said. "When that day comes, we'll be ready for it."

The Republican electoral calendar is fluid and accelerating, with Florida's decision to hold a late-January primary likely to prompt other states to move up their voting, too. Still, newly adopted Republican rules on how delegates are awarded will make it harder for any candidate to quickly clinch the nomination.

Republican insiders say their party's battle could extend into May - meaning Obama would not have a specific challenger for more than seven months.

In the end, Plouffe said he expects Obama will face Texas Gov. Rick Perry or former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney: "It's hard to imagine another scenario," he said.

Obama's campaign wing is already singling out Perry and Romney by name, saying they support policies the American people oppose. In a memo released Monday, the campaign criticized Perry's assertion that Social Security is a "Ponzi scheme" and said Romney supports turning the program over to Wall Street.

But neither party expects most voters to start really paying attention to the race until it is down to Obama and an opponent.

In the meantime, the absence of someone for Obama to post up against presents him with both troubles and openings.

Running against alleged Republican intransigence in Congress isn't exactly the kind of vision that voters can see and feel, or that inspires volunteers.

"Right now, understandably, totally legitimate, this is a referendum on Obama and Biden, and the nature of the state of the economy," Vice President Joe Biden told a South Florida radio station last week. "It's soon going to be a choice."

Obama's strategy is to use the fall and winter to outline a broad vision of how his ideas for the country differ from those of Republicans, and then fill in the details when a competitor emerges.

His themes are already there.

Obama's policy speeches and his high-dollar fundraisers often center on a need for the wealthy to pay a bigger share to shrink the federal deficit and pay for education, research and the basic infrastructure of the country. He has been talking about opportunity for all and calling anew for a "big, generous vision of what America has been and can be."

"In this phase, the president can soften the ground, no matter who the candidate is," said Doug Hattaway, a Democratic strategist. "I see it as an opportunity. He has an opportunity to draw a very clear line between his vision and the Republican ideology, and let the Republican candidates do a hatchet job on each other."

Karen Finney, a Democratic operative who served in the Clinton White House, said Obama's effort to contrast what he is trying to do with the way congressional Republicans are standing in the way "reminds people what they like about him, which could also help his poll numbers."

Most major polls suggest that Obama faces a challenging environment, at best.

The latest Gallup data show Obama's national approval rating now is below that of all two-term presidents at the same point in their first terms, since Gallup began testing presidential approval regularly during the Eisenhower years. His overall approval rating is at 41 percent in Gallup polling.

Recent polling in swing states such as Ohio and Pennsylvania shows Obama competitive with Romney and Perry, a result that's open to interpretation.

The White House insists that bodes well for Obama, because he already is carrying the weight of his troubles as the familiar incumbent, while his competitors have not gone through the scrutiny of the primary process or a full media vetting of their views. To Republicans, Obama's current standing shows a weak incumbent who has blended governing and campaigning into one message.

"I don't think people believe that he's running on two tracks right now. He's running on one track: Total attacks on Republicans," said Ed Gillespie, a former White House counselor to President George W. Bush and one-time chairman of the Republican National Committee.

For all the debate about whether the election is a referendum on Obama's leadership or a choice between candidates, Obama himself has leaned in public toward the former.

In an interview with a Kansas City, Mo. television station in July, he was asked who in the Republican field could beat him.

He never answered directly, but said if Americans feel he has been moving the country in the right direction, "I'll win. If they don't, I'll lose."

"That's not to say the other candidate is irrelevant," Obama added. "But it does mean I'll probably win or lose based on their assessment of my stewardship."

 

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+57 # Barbara K 2011-10-04 13:12
The Republican Teabaggers have done nothing to help the American people. They've helped only their wealthy puppetmasters, to our detriment. They would perfectly happy to see us starving to death in the streets. Go Mr. President! You cannot coddle the Rs any more, you need to get tough with them. And we need to get the Rs out of our Congress so we can get something done for the people. Don't back down now, we have your back.

VOTE STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC, save SS, Medicare, Medicaid and our rights and get enough to stop the hate the citizens people out of there.
 
 
+11 # unclewags 2011-10-04 15:41
You are so perfectly right in your take on Obama's "coddling of the Rs".
Our once democratic republic is in need of a Progressive Patriot who will stand up to the corporate powers which unethically control our governance, as well as their TP puppets. Obama would only repeat his derelection of obligations to his electorate. We need an FDR personality who will amalgamate the diversity of our nation's people and give the repugnicants one hell of a run for their money ... Wall Street money
 
 
-15 # unclewags 2011-10-04 15:56
Quoting
The Republican Teabaggers have done nothing to help the American people. They've helped only their wealthy puppetmasters, to our detriment. They would perfectly happy to see us starving to death in the streets. Go Mr. President! You cannot coddle the Rs any more, you need to get tough with them. And we need to get the Rs out of our Congress so we can get something done for the people. Don't back down now, we have your back.

VOTE STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC, save SS, Medicare, Medicaid and our rights and get enough to stop the hate the citizens people out of there.

I am an FDR Democrat who will vote for any independent Progressive Patriot in opposition to both the repugnicants and any demo-Rat of the Obama persuasion. .
 
 
+6 # noitall 2011-10-04 20:54
...and that would be who, unclewags? that's one of the catch-22s, we only have two parties to choose from and catch 22 #2 is, the candidate would have to be a billionaire or have billionaire friends. Catch 22 #3 is that after another 4 years of the anti-choice, we're all too broke to afford a Zorro nonetheless the cape. But damn, aren't our boys good soldiers. Best we keep them in Afghanistan, otherwise they'd be here next to the white shirts kicking our asses. Now there's some constructive use of our tax dollars.
 
 
+2 # noitall 2011-10-04 21:02
"The chief weapon of sea pirates, however, was their capacity to astonish. Nobody else could believe, until it was too late, how heartless and greedy they were."- Kurt Vonnegut Breakfast of Champion
So you see, they're all sea pirates, they're just on different ships in the ocean that is the Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave. Seems we need to sink both ships and build a new boat. That would be if we had some power...or representation. Anyone out there that isn't a sea pirate?
 
 
+12 # X Dane 2011-10-04 22:19
Barbara, you are so right. I am disgusted with the majority of the comments below. Those fools do not realize, that they are playing right into the hand of the devils. This is pricisely what the republicas and teabaggers want. DEVIDE AND CONQUER.

For many years they destroyed the country, and NOW YOU EXPECT that in a couple of years Obama would be able to reverse what the republicans have been working on since before Regan??????? GET REAL
For much too long democrats didn't realize what was happening. REMEMBER when Hillary said: "THAT THERE WAS A WAS a WAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY"???? some laughed and thought she was paranoid. The republican didn't they KNEW she was right.

You all SHOULD KNOW BY NOW that NO politician can run without money, which is why we are in this mess.
So for the sake of us all get off your self righteous horses and do and SAY something positive.

Also get involved with : "Get the money out.com" Dylan Rattigan is working on an ammendment. Be positive and FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU AND WE ALL WANT.
And stop playing into the hands of the teabag devils.
 
 
+6 # NanFan 2011-10-05 11:24
This article is milk toast.

I want to see our President Obama DO something big, like tax the rich, pull an executive order to get his jobs bill passed BEFORE he opposes a Republi-religious-bagger!

He's president, for heaven's sake! Do it while you have the power, Mr. Obama! DO something, please. Don't just talk.

N.
 
 
-7 # RLF 2011-10-06 04:39
THe Democrats are irrelevant! they have abondonded the people and deserve to lose. I prefer a repube that admits he is a repube over a fake any day. Screw the Dems! VOTE THIRD PARTY!
 
 
+49 # fredboy 2011-10-04 13:29
If Obama removes his leash he may just pull off a win.

But he's got to start kicking ass, taking names, and being presidential.
 
 
+15 # Todd Williams 2011-10-04 14:52
He has started kicking ass. He's got fire in his belly and is fixin' to mix it up with whomever is the Rethug idiot opposing him. I suspect we'll see an Obama we've never seen before; a man tougher than he was in the first election.
 
 
-12 # noitall 2011-10-04 21:05
Yeah! I remember thinking that the first time around. What was that about the definition of 'insanity'...doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. Just relax, vote for Obama and don't be disappointed when you get screwed again. Find comfort in knowing that you could have been screwed MUCH worse. All rise for the flag salute.
 
 
-5 # unclewags 2011-10-04 15:49
Obama will assuredly do that .. for public consumption ... He has proven himself ... to be a "Master of theater". I feel like we, his '08 supporters, have been betrayed by this man who has coddled the Wall Streeters and the pharmaceutical industry by placing several of their ilk in key administration positions;Treas ury, DOJ
 
 
-4 # RLF 2011-10-06 04:43
You mean he should start talking politics it is clear he doesn't support in order to get elected again? He (and the Dems with him)got away with that once but not again. First we had Clinton's knife in our backs and now Obama's. I'll be voting 3rd party...Dems had their chance and showed themselves to be undercover Rethugs.
 
 
+6 # Abigail 2011-10-04 13:31
President Obama may have a vision as he's said over and over again, but we don't eat visions, we don't live in visions, we need more than visions. I was suckered into the vision view of life, but now I realize we need action, and President Obama, nice guy that he is, has shown no route to getting the vision into a reality. We, the hungry, the under- or un-employed, the unhoused, cannot eat or sleep in visions. Unless he can bring his visions into a reality in the next few months, he should let someone else try to get us out from under the black cloud we are living under.
 
 
-16 # unclewags 2011-10-04 15:31
The only way out is to endorse a well known third party candidate who rejects both the TP and Obama's betrayals of record.
We've got to get behind a person, man or woman, of principled drive to lead a "Progressive Patriot Party".
 
 
-19 # NeoGeo 2011-10-04 13:44
Who are you trying to kid?

Mr. JIVE, aka, President Obama, has been blowing smoke up our behinds about his "progressive" agenda for 3 years.

Where's the progress?

Oh wait, it's election time -- which means it's time to once again remember the "little people" who rallied to put his butt in the White House.

We're done. We're gone.

We've seen that there really wasn't any of the promised "light."

Mr. Obama can continue to kiss Wall Street's royal ass, but all of us who once believed his promises know better.

The prom is over.

We know he just wanted to get under our dress to continue the rape and pillage of the middle class and America's natural resources.

Bye-bye, Mr. Obama...go teach "Constitutional" law after you kill American citizens from Predator drones with no trial, no accusation, no witnesses.

We're gone.
 
 
+22 # Todd Williams 2011-10-04 14:57
NeoGeo, I now assume you are planning to move to another country? Let me tell you something dude, if you and your ideologically pure ilk don't support our president, we will be truely screwed. You want a President Perry? How about President Romney? Can you dig President Bachgmann? Grow up and get real. This is political realty we are seeing, not some social studies program in college. This a a last ditch fight for the soul of our country. Don't blow it, man. Don't blow it.
 
 
-6 # minkdumink 2011-10-04 15:22
Lincoln locked up more people than Obama and Bush combined, and he saved the Union.
 
 
+4 # boudreaux 2011-10-05 07:11
Quoting
Lincoln locked up more people than Obama and Bush combined, and he saved the Union.

There are really some deaf, dumb and blind people on site today...
 
 
+1 # minkdumink 2011-10-05 18:03
and there are a lot of people that just plain dont know history. What I said is true, simply look it up or google it. Im not saying its right, Im just saying presidents do what they think they have to do in dire circumstances. And our ''greatest'' president was no different.
 
 
+21 # angelfish 2011-10-04 15:55
Are you DEAF, DUMB and BLIND to what the Fascist ReTHUGlicans have been doing for the past, almost, THREE years? They said form the outset of his Presidency that their SINGULAR Goal was to make him a "one Term President"! DON'T let them get away with it! They have stymied him at EVERY turn, almost DESTROYING, not only OURS but the WORLD'S Economy as well! Don't be seduced by these THUGS and "ME First-ers"! The President can do little without the support of both houses. Sadly, he didn't realize that till they had a Majority in the House and a slew of "Blue Dogs" in the Senate. Give him another chance to prove himself before you throw him to the Dogs! It took the "shrub" EIGHT, LONG, MURDEROUS years to bring us so low, it's going to take longer than three or four years to bring us UP and out of it! Maybe YOU'RE Gone, let the rest of us speak for ourselves!
 
 
-19 # Abigail 2011-10-04 13:45
Who cares about visions? Prophets have visions, madmen have visions, but the vision is valueless unless some path emerges from the vision to rectify the situation. How many years of visions do we need before we see accomplishments ? I am a Democrat, and have no candidate to vote for.
 
 
+19 # minkdumink 2011-10-04 15:21
vote for the GOP and later on down the Rd. you wont have a vote either.
 
 
+34 # Vardette 2011-10-04 14:01
It will be a very dark day if we end up with a TP president. People were angry at Obama and didn't get out the vote and look what we ended up with - The TP! And now they are really depending on our apathy and anger towards Obama - But people should know that Small Govt = more corporate control and less protections for us and less regulations just means corporations will be free to do anything they want at any cost to us! Yes Obama has let us down in many ways but not completely and to me compared to the totally sold out, ruthless extremist TP - The party that demanded that the rich get their tax cugts or else people wouldn't get their unemployemnt benefits, Obama is a wet dream. If you think he calls all the shots and pulls all the strings you are wrong. There is a powerful corporate and military agenda, a bunch of thugs and gangsters that will do ANYTHING to get what they want and they have and are - so we see how the people of Wisconsin and Ohio and AZ feel about their TP GOV and how the TP is trying to sabotage the vote in every way - so why would they wnat to do that? Because they are so popular? Hey out there USE YOUR HEADS AND DON'T LAND US IN A WORSE PLACE.
 
 
-7 # wcandler1 2011-10-04 14:15
Why is Obama not being challenged in the primary?
 
 
-15 # unclewags 2011-10-04 15:26
Quoting
Why is Obama not being challenged in the primary?

A primary conquest over Obama would be preferable to his certain defeat in the general elections. Obama's "compromising" has broken the hearts of too many of us who worked our butts off for him in the '08 campaign; too heart-broken to risk another assault via Obama's Wall Street connections. If we are to be economically assaulted again, it would be totally unbearable to experience that at the hands of a known
betrayer to the middle class.
 
 
-3 # Erdajean 2011-10-04 14:30
Well I'll declare! Obama is talking about running against a Republican? I thought he WAS one!
If he is to win this coming election -- whoever (whatever) the GOP opponent is -- he's got work to do. He's got to turn and face the American people who elected him and look us in the eye and say, "I AM one of you -- and for you. I am forsaking the Richest, turning down Big Oil in its determination to run this government and those in Latin America and the Middle East as well; I am closing the noxious hopeless Bush prisons, and indicting torturers and treasonists (including Bush and Cheney!); I will remember Palestinians are human, and quit bowing to Israel at every move; I will halt polluters and environmental murderers in their tracks; I will enforce decent tax laws and make the "Lions" pay the lion's share -- as of course they SHOULD; I will quit raining bombs on countries with whom we are NOT at war, and I will Bring Home Our Troops -- and our money -- from places where they had no business in the first place, and put them to work on rebuilding THIS country."
In short, he might move seriously to do those things he promised us, first time around. Then the whole world would be brighter -- for him and the rest of us.
 
 
+2 # lincolnimp 2011-10-04 14:48
I agree that President Obama has been a great disappointment. If he continues to seek a coalition with the hate mongers, he will lose....and so will I and so will every other non-rich (don't like the word "poor") citizen. Canada never looked so good...Mexico looks doable too.
 
 
+1 # theshift33 2011-10-04 14:54
Didn't we hear something about big visions in 2008 and all he's done is roll over & play dead, repeatedly try to gain understanding & acceptance with a bunch of pathological gamers? He needs to be challenged in the primary. We'll get nothing from this guy except his thrill of being the underdog.
 
 
+2 # thedirtydemocrat 2011-10-04 15:17
When you watch Boehner and Cantor filibuster the Congress with block after block and the wonderful jobs they have created why should the Dems even try?
 
 
+7 # boudreaux 2011-10-05 07:16
Because that is who we are, we have been fighters since the beggining of time and we will not stop b/c of you idiots.
 
 
-1 # RLF 2011-10-06 04:48
What kept Obama standing still the first two years was not the Rethugs...it was the conservatives in his own party and they should all be forced into the rethug camp...make them run as what they truly are. That being said O. is one of them...he can go to!
 
 
+2 # minkdumink 2011-10-04 15:19
But the republicans have the American Scheme!!
 
 
-2 # amye 2011-10-04 15:21
Obama is just as wishy washy as ever! This is not the President America wanted when we voted for him in 2008! I'm a lefty and I voted for him, but I still don't know what this President really stands for! You just don't know what you'll get again with Obama! However, I've read that if the Reps get one more chance to control the White House it will be the end of America as we know it!! Now that is frightening! But its also scary when you don't know what you'll get again with Obama!
 
 
+17 # angelfish 2011-10-04 15:46
At Last, Mr.President, at LONG last you are finally fighting back! It's gratifying to see. I only hope it's not too little, too late. A lot of your former supporters have lost faith. I, Sir, have NOT, and will continue to Cheer-Lead for you IF you keep up the good fight and lay the blame for MOST of the inaction where it belongs! You DO bear some responsibility but, for the MOST PART, the recalcitrant Fascist ReTHUGlicans have MUCH to answer for. Hold their feet to the fire as they are doing to you, Sir. They WANT you to crash and burn, along with the Country they once swore to uphold. We CAN succeed and get the Change we all SO want and need. I have hope that you can win back the disaffected before they shoot themselves in the foot again by electing more Fascists to our House and Senate! God Bless you and our Country!
 
 
+13 # reiverpacific 2011-10-04 16:31
In a way, this is how the U.S. Election Cycle SHOULD be, with the chance for the President to actually do his job.
If he hasn't figured out by now that he is going to get nothing but obfuscation, smoke and mirrors, no ideas and "NO!" after "NO!" from the other side he doesn't deserve the support of the rest of the country.
What he really needs to do to give some hope and trust to what should be his "base", is to go to Wall Street and get in behind these folks and their peers all over the country, go to public schools, struggling small businesses, people who have no health care and to small clinics with sliding scales as where I live, and VA facilities which are trying to cope with the returning war-crippled, both physically and mentally.
In other words GO TO THE STREETS and listen to people who have been hurt, even destroyed by the greedy pigs at the national trough.
And while he's at it, scrap the "Super-rich Committee" which has no credibility at the grassroots, and replace it with a truly meaningful working collective.
This is still a rich country; we just need somebody to wield the mallet that hits the sweet spot to release these pent-up funds in the national Piñata FOR ALL.
"Bring it on" was uttered in another way by Bush the twit and is a good sign but political only so far and needs to have a social context beyond that!
 
 
+2 # cabotool 2011-10-04 18:15
I am 75 years old and still working hard. I am truly pissed and discouraged in the same moment. I am seriously thinking of moving to Russia. I now speak enough Russian to get by. I have many friends over there who ask me to go to them. At this moment I am consulting with an ancient monastery in Rubanovskoi, Ukraine. I am teaching them how to farm grain on a small local scale, grind the grain into flour and bake bread;so people have something to eat.

America has turned into a s**it house and I will be the first of my family line in perhaps 10 generations to leave America. Russia may be bad... but America is worse!

Here I am the piss ant that challenges, speaks out and works for change. In Russia I will be the quiet mouse who works with technology for a better future, respects his neighbors and helps whoever needs help.

This is more than just talk. I now have a formal invitation for a one year, multiple entry business visa to Russia.

Some people are harmed and they just sit there and take it. Some people are harmed and they fight back. I have done enough of the fighting.... I am just ready to leave.

Пака Пака, Питер
 
 
+4 # reiverpacific 2011-10-05 08:44
Quoting
I am 75 years old and still working hard. I am truly pissed and discouraged in the same moment. I am seriously thinking of moving to Russia. I now speak enough Russian to get by. I have many friends over there who ask me to go to them. At this moment I am consulting with an ancient monastery in Rubanovskoi, Ukraine. I am teaching them how to farm grain on a small local scale, grind the grain into flour and bake bread;so people have something to eat.

America has turned into a s**it house and I will be the first of my family line in perhaps 10 generations to leave America. Russia may be bad... but America is worse!

Here I am the piss ant that challenges, speaks out and works for change. In Russia I will be the quiet mouse who works with technology for a better future, respects his neighbors and helps whoever needs help.

This is more than just talk. I now have a formal invitation for a one year, multiple entry business visa to Russia.

Some people are harmed and they just sit there and take it. Some people are harmed and they fight back. I have done enough of the fighting.... I am just ready to leave.

Пака Пака, Питер


Here-here and well said.
I too have begun a plan to move back (but to Scotland, France or Spain) mostly because of the rotten health no-care structure.
 
 
-2 # noitall 2011-10-04 21:07
I'll hang up now, I think I've been getting all too cynical. Sea pirates deserve to make a living too.
 
 
+7 # Jane Gilgun 2011-10-05 05:22
Maybe the Wall Street demonstrators have the right idea. Put ourselves out in public and show by being there that we are concerned. The frustration and anger I see in these comments are of high concern.
 
 
-6 # Martintfre 2011-10-05 06:09
Obama is the underdog?

how does he figure?

He has the full resources of the US Government and US tax payers to buy his re-election
 
 
+2 # JAYBOD 2011-10-05 08:45
If only Pres Obama "DID" what he says he will "DO"!!! So far I do not see that happening. If only he could be trusted.
 

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