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David E. Sanger and Thom Shanker report: "With rebels in Libya calling for Western airstrikes on forces supporting Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates warned Congress on Wednesday that even a more modest effort to establish a no-flight zone over Libya would have to begin with an attack on the country's air defenses and would require 'a big operation in a big country.'"

Robert Gates visits troops from the 4th Brigade, 1st Armored Division upon his arrival at COB Adder in Talil, Iraq, 07/28/09. (photo: Jim Watson/Getty Images)
Robert Gates visits troops from the 4th Brigade, 1st Armored Division upon his arrival at COB Adder in Talil, Iraq, 07/28/09. (photo: Jim Watson/Getty Images)

Gates Warns of Risks of a No-Flight Zone

By David E. Sanger and Thom Shanker, The New York Times

03 March 11

With rebels in Libya calling for Western airstrikes on forces supporting Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates warned Congress on Wednesday that even a more modest effort to establish a no-flight zone over Libya would have to begin with an attack on the country's air defenses and would require "a big operation in a big country."

Mr. Gates's caution illustrates the chasm between what the rebels and some leading members of Congress are calling for and what President Obama appears willing to do in Libya. Mr. Obama and his aides have argued that it is not yet clear that the insurgents need the help - and they have warned that the use of American airpower could fuel the arguments of those in the Middle East who see a Washington conspiracy behind homegrown uprisings.

But even some members of the president's own party sounded unconvinced on Wednesday. Senator John Kerry, the Massachusetts Democrat who is the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and one of the president's chief foreign policy allies in Congress, argued that "a no-fly zone is not a long-term proposition" and warned that other nations and NATO should not be "on the sidelines" as Colonel Qaddafi's jets begin to attack the antigovernment insurgents.

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+4 # Dale 2011-03-03 09:46
Have we learned nothing from military actions against countries from the American attack on Iraq? Unsavory leaders will eventually meet their end through the actions of their own people. We have no cause for any attack on Libya.
 
 
+2 # LeeBlack 2011-03-03 11:01
The situation in Darfur is just as bad and we've managed to avoid 'intervention' there. If we use any military action in Libya it will be seen as protecting the West's oil supplies.
 
 
+5 # Activista 2011-03-03 10:28
US is a crumbling military empire financed by deficit - running on China credit card. Again we are facing the same weapons NATO sold to Libya for profit.
Any idiot who can Google map of Libya can see that the "uprising" is along the tribal lines. We have another civil war supported by NATO (Iraq, Afghanistan - millions killed for "strategic" reasons by neocons, neorats - the same).
And "revolutionaries " are massacring African workers in Libya - and UN is quiet.
Ask questions of thousands of guest workers on the border - who is driving them out .. who brought them in ..
 
 
+3 # CECILE 2011-03-03 11:14
How stupid does the government think we are? Korea was a "Police Action", the Vietnam War was never declared, The Irak War was started under false pretenses (Weapons of Mass Destruction - remember that one?) Afghanistan, same thing and now, we are just itching to get into Libya??? Let's cut the whole military budget, bring ALL our boys home, and that means from all the bases we occupy all over the world. This will : balance the budget,allow us to pay for ALL OUR DEBTS, the whole deficit and then some! make us new friends all over the world. Lybians themselves are telling us to stay the hell out! If we get in, we will be soooo-over-extended that we are SURE to fail on all fronts. Will we have to go in the streets and protest the war like we did in the 60s? I'm ready. Stop this nonsense!!! We would be in the black in not for all these conflicts to defend "our (oil) interests"
 
 
+5 # Realist 2011-03-03 11:41
Cheers for CECILE. I agree with everything said there. the interest alone on our national debt to China is in the billions. We should bring home all our troops especially thos in Afghanistan, pay off our debts, especially those to China, restore taxes on the rich,and start living within our means.
 
 
+3 # soularddave 2011-03-03 12:16
Daaamn, I hate to find myself in agreement with Gates, but I feel like outright military intervention would be unwise at this time.

Better, I feel, would be to let things sort out, and possibly there will e informal help from other 'neighbors'. The whole affair could spiral out of control, and I would NOT want U.S. Armed Forces to be involved.

I still have a keen interest and feel solidarity with the civilian faction that wants their leader to take a hike.
 
 
+1 # Anarchist 23 2011-03-03 12:53
Operation Intervention Libya= O.I.L
 
 
+1 # joe little 2011-03-03 13:27
It's profoundly pathetic that billions of US$ is wasted every year on service branch War Colleges and there is not a single plan out of all of those war-studies that would fit this situation both tactically and strategically & RIGHT NOW. Maybe it's time for the budget conscious Congress to review War College funding.
 
 
0 # Activista 2011-03-03 14:06
Chavez Libya peace plan

DUBAI (Reuters) - The Arab League head Amr Moussa said on the Thursday the group would consider a proposal by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to negotiate a peaceful settlement to Libya's intensifying conflict"
Gaddafi accepted - should UN/US prefer peaceful solution - regardless where it comes from? Not in interest of Banksters - again many people will die for profit of few
 
 
-2 # James38 2011-03-03 18:18
Chavez shows his true colors as a dictator by supporting Ghadafi, who is killing his people in a crazed effort to retain power. I am afraid we can read all too clearly from Chavez' statement that he would do the same thing if he has the power and if his country tries to oust him. Some great humanitarian leader he is. Unfortunately he has proven himself to be another power hungry loon born of the same distortions that gave us Daffy.
 
 
+1 # Activista 2011-03-03 21:10
do not like colonels - but "Chavez shows his true colors as a dictator" was elected fairly - compared to GWBusch putsch in Florida. He and Gaddafi have one issue with corporate world - nationalized oil and poor people have better medical care than US. Go to Appalachia and check on older people teeth - of they have any left.
So far who is mostly killed in Libya are foreign workers from Africa by "revolutionaries ".
Operation Intervention Libya= O.I.L
 
 
+1 # James38 2011-03-05 00:17
The US health care system is a travesty, I agree. And one absurd fact is that the "Christian" right opposes universal health care and calls it socialism. If Christ was anything he was a socialist. It is worthy of note that in Switzerland private health care for profit is illegal - because the profit steals from the care.

Yes, Bush and the “Supremes” stole the election (with the help of Gore who caved).

Your statement about who is being killed in Libya is absurd. Talk about cherry-picking the facts.

Recognizing the faults of the US does not excuse the faults of Chavez and Ghaddafi, and saying that the people of Libya have better health care is something I doubt. Can you prove that? Venezuela under Chavez has improved the heath care for the poor in some places, largely because he has encouraged Cuban doctors to come there and help. However, how widespread the improvements are is doubtful. What is not doubtful is that Chavez is making the moves to ensure his continued rule by limiting the freedom of the press and by stacking the electoral process in his own favor. Not necessary if he is really such a good guy.

You seem to be one of the radical liberals who basically spout leftist propaganda without bothering to study the real issues or the actual facts, and I say that as someone who is about as far left as you can get.
 
 
+1 # James38 2011-03-04 02:30
This is a difficult and interesting challenge for the world. We are faced with a violent dictator. What should we do? I think the definitions of national sovereignty need reconsideration . A dictator who violates the rights of the citizens and uses violence to keep power should not be accorded the respect given to a legitimate leader. A public uprising against such a dictator should be supported by the international community. I have published a longer discussion in the "godot" section of RSN.
 

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