John Bresnahan and Jonathon Allen report: "A hard-core group of liberal House Democrats is questioning the constitutionality of US missile strikes against Libya, with one lawmaker raising the prospect of impeachment during a Democratic Caucus conference call on Saturday."
A man carries his son as they stand near the wreckage of a US Air Force F-15E fighter jet after it crashed near the eastern city of Benghazi, 03/22/11. (photo: Suhaib Salem/Reuters)
This article refers to "liberal House Democrats." In fact, those Representatives named are members of the House Progressive Caucus. -- ma/RSN
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Libya is not the same. For once, we have the chance to very carefully support people and keep them from being slaughtered by a ruthless, mad dictator who cares only for maintaining his own power and nothing for the lives of the Libyan people. Kucinich and the 'liberal democrats' have been utterly ineffective at supporting any kind of progressive agenda for the people of the United States, so now they try to undermine a president on an issue that won't lose them any re-election donations from big corporations and banks. They make me sick.
I don't like Obama, though I voted for him. He is a major disappointment for having hired the foxes to guard the henhouse of American citizens' financial well-being, and for quite apparently lying about what he was going to do once he became president versus his campaign promises.
To Mr. Kucinich and the rest of the 'liberal Democrats' who think it is more important to get their approval before going out to save lives, you should be ashamed. If America still has any honor left, it is in saving the lives of those who can't defend themselves against overwhelming odds.
Fact: we have been spending more money supporting the like of Mubarak and Gaddafi oppress their people that we are to help those people break free"
Opinion and questions: "would you prefer a world where millions of people trust and respect the USA (there was such time) or a world where we pay dictators to do our bidding and protect us from the consequences" Think about it is a complex question.
Impeach Obama/Clinton
Bush started one war, then he made it two
Obama got elected saying what am I to do
In the land of the financier,home of the theif
The new President provided Wall St. relief
Spineless health care reform applied to the body
Had a beer, oh dear!, a kind of "race soothing tottie"
Concessions and conciliations over gays,
guns and taxes
Koch brothers profits reach historic maxes
The folks in Libya ruin our cozy little set-up
Phone call to the White House tells the President to get up
"A call for you sir, I believe its the MIC
Bush got his two wars, now I can make it three
All across the Middle East burns freedom's fire
Stoked by a renegade, red white and blue empire
But the true matter is that Bahrain and Yemen are not oil rich, but Libya holds great oil resources. We have invaded Lybia not to save its citizenryt, but because our oil-profits greed is threatened by Gadhafi's and his government's instability and Gadhafi's allying with Chavez of Venezuela.
Obama does not give a damn for how many foreign nation civilians (or US troops) he kills. Witness Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan.
The problem with supporting the idea that the US should be protecting innocent civilians in Libya is that it is impossible to draw a clear line between that and starting a war, as has already been made clear by the bombing of Gadhafi's house and other targets that are not the airforce that have killed innocent civilians. Also, we have not opted to support innocent civilians in Yemen or Bahrain by bombing their security forces, obviously because they are military allies. So clearly we have a double standard, and it is easy to argue that the deeper motive to single out Libya from the other oppressive dictators we support is that we want to allow our corporations to control the oil there. So I support the group of progressive Dems who think the President should be challenged, even impeached on his illegal use of force in this case, without consulting Congress.
But the true matter is that Bahrain and Yemen are not oil rich, but Libya holds great oil resources. We have invaded Lybia not to save its citizenryt, but because our oil-profits greed is threatened by Gadhafi's and his government's instability and Gadhafi's allying with Chavez of Venezuela.
Your line-drawing is not an issue, because Obama does not give a damn for how many civilians he kills. Se Afgahanistan and Pakistan. See also Iraq, which still we are invading, despite Obama's farcical "withdrawal."
No one put sanctions upon Yemen, or Bahrain or Israel for that matter. Innocent people die daily.
it is time we get BinLaden or remove ourselves fro Afghanistan. Binny is at the Bush Compound very comfortable as he was during 9/11 attacks.
I believe that we see GOP not stopping President so I believe between the Nuclear oath, The New OffShore Drilling allowance the Democrats handed us another GOP. This President didnot clean up Washington when he walked into town and that has been an undoing of US Citizens. The President is not helping the Citizens of USA in the States where Jobs are going down the tubes.
If the Democrats impeach the President, they are playing GOP Song. I think it is time for Citizens of USA to stand up and be counted, We need a strong Leadership for USA which means the Rethuglicans and the Demoscraps must go.
This is not a good look with Elections in the near future.
Mr President, Ms Clinton should have been in Japan showing concern there. NRC and all Nuclear Liars should have been there the first day but they were too scared of their Safe Energy
Republican Arms Dealers could have donated some Weapons for oil, wouldnot have been first time!
That Libya has a dictator and he has socialist leaning - his children are reasonable and more intelligent than
Bush II - if we had dynasty - why not Libya?
Now Obama has added an illegal invasion of Libya. He has not merely helped create a no-fly zone, but attacked Libyan territory. The UN Resolution did not authorize such an attack, which also violates the US constitution, for not being authorized by Congress.
Obama has committed many other crimes, domestic ones, not only international offenses.
The House ought impeach Obama, and the Senate convict him. The D of J ought prosecute him. The federal judiciary ought convict and imprison him.
look at the map and history before you bomb (hard concept for Pentagon and State Department).
And congratulation to Bill and AIPAC Hillary Clinton scheme - Obama 2012 is caput.
To list them - Clinton, Lieberman. McCain ...While applauding Barack Obama’s involvement of U.S. forces in air strikes, influential neo-con Bill "Kristol told Fox News that America should go further than merely bombarding Libya and send in ground troops as “peacekeepers,” embroiling the bankrupt United States in yet another foreign occupation while enabling Muslim extremists fighting Gaddafi to rise to power." and Fox News leads -
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xss0Ep1MJM
when we will learn?
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