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Hedges writes: "I know the consequences of granting sweeping and unrestricted policing power to the armed forces of any nation. And while my battle may be quixotic, it is one that has to be fought if we are to have any hope of pulling this country back from corporate fascism."

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and Truthdig columnist Chris Hedges speaking at the White House, 12/16/10. (photo: Independent Video/Truthdig)
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and Truthdig columnist Chris Hedges speaking at the White House, 12/16/10. (photo: Independent Video/Truthdig)

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+21 # shortonfaith 2012-01-16 11:27
Today there are more African Americans locked up in our jails then there were slaves at the heights of slavery. If we were to let the Military get involved in detention, how hard would it really be to lock up everyone that didn't have a job? Everyone that wasn't contributing to the expansion of the empire? After all, the US markets are as good as dead. Only through forcing other nations to accept our products, can we our corporations hope to grow. Any one who can't see that is an obvious enemy of the Homeland & will need to be visited by their security. If we get to busy we may need to detain them until the system can get around to there case. Meanwhile, they can work in the prisons for the Military Complex. All major military corporation have these workers already. Welcome back to the future.
 
 
+46 # Erdajean 2012-01-16 11:55
"But I suspect the real purpose of this bill is to thwart internal, domestic movements that threaten the corporate state. The definition of a terrorist is already so amorphous under the Patriot Act that there are probably a few million Americans who qualify to be investigated if not locked up." Precisely, Mr. Hedges.

Are we to believe that Obama, a professor of Constitutional law, is naive enough to mean that, though he does not "intend" to use this knife on the backs of people who OPPOSE military and economic terrorism against our own people, he DOES want it on the books -- just in case? Mr. Panetta, of course, is just another patty-cake partner, obeying his master's voice.
Yes, Mr. Hedges, SUE, and thank you. Sad fact that it is ONLY through civil court that justice is sometimes a winner, in the U.S.A. Of course, it's then always about money -- when the real remedy ought to be Jail.
 
 
+31 # LiberalLibertarian 2012-01-16 12:06
Chris is correct when he calls the suit quixotic. The court will likely rule that since he has not been harmed, nor is he representing anyone that has been harmed by this law, his suit has no standing.

Of course, once someone is disappeared, how can they sue? And, if I am correct; then the law becomes bullet proof.

Also, the law functions on less evidence against a so-called terrorist. Since little or no evidence beyond rumor and innuendo is less than Chris Hedge's assertions.

Catch 22. Heads the oligarchy wins, tails you lose everything.

I hope they picked the right judge to at least get the case up 1 step of the ladder.
 
 
+11 # Texan 4 Peace 2012-01-16 21:44
I believe his suit could have standing precisely because he is a journalist; "material support to terrorists" could be construed to include publishing the contents of interviews with members of blacklisted groups. The law thus puts a severe damper on Hedge's ability to practice his profession.
I'm glad he mentioned the Central American wars. Many of us PROUDLY gave material and moral support to grassroots organizations who were resisting US-sponsored terrorism in those years. Many people still do the same with the Zapatistas in Mexico. This bill is a blank check to squash dissent; it is clearly unconstitutiona l, as any honest judge will have to recognize.
 
 
+2 # LiberalLibertarian 2012-01-17 05:21
Texan,

I hope you are right and I am wrong. All I can say is that is real hard not to be cynical and optimistic at the same time.
 
 
+46 # cadan 2012-01-16 12:24
Thank you Chris (and your attorneys) for organizing the complaint and taking action.

Whether you (we!!!!) get any traction out of it or not it is still the right thing to do.
 
 
+26 # reiverpacific 2012-01-16 12:29
How about adding to the list, "former close association of Donald Rumsfeld & Co. with Saddam Hussein (there's a well-circulated picture to prove it) when he was "our bad guy" but just as "bad" as when he was allegedly harboring WMD". "Close association with AND ARMING of the Mujahadeen -including Osama "Bad Laddie" when he was fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan, or the Iran-Contra arms racket (Olly North, go directly to jail and leave y'r $200.00 at the door).
In my opinion, Israel is a rogue terrorist state with it's own nuclear arsenal -so why not them (don't bother to reply, we all know why!)?
And ol' Henery Kiss-my-ring for all kinds of devastating associations in so many countries.
If this is carried through to it's stupidly Hell-bent coda, a deuce of a lot of neocons would be "Disappearing" before any of us, or the author IF a just conclusion were the desired end result of this insult to anyone who truly values freedom in the "Land of the Free" (If you own the means to bestow it).
And that's just a teaser list.
Of course a just conclusion is the last thing this intended to provide.
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" is gettin' closer folks!
Thanks C.H. for a courageous if perhaps futile stand.
 
 
+30 # James Marcus 2012-01-16 12:36
Hooray for You!
Though the 'Rule of Law' is likely dead (or they wouldn't have tried such NDAA/Patriot Act/HSA horrors to begin with), it is important to go through this process anyway, 'contaminated' as it likely is. (lest 'They' think everyone is Entirely Asleep)
It certainly appears 'They'...have not only Obama-in-Pocket, but the (majority of) Congress, the Major Media and the (Supreme) Court as well.
Watch your Back!
 
 
+33 # vicnada 2012-01-16 12:54
Kudos to Chris and all others called to similar quixotic challenge! Where his cause of action is clear due to the requirements of his profession and his extraordinary ethic of due diligence, I wonder if there is a citizen in this country who does not have true cause of action. How much does it cost to file such a complaint? And could a proforma complaint be professionally drawn up and published that any of us could file in our respective Federal jurisdictions? Why not flood the Courts with our "no" vote? And wny not take the opportunity to add the names of any of our respective Comgresspersons who voted "aye" to this treasonous piece of legislation?
 
 
+9 # Erdajean 2012-01-16 15:31
YES! A grand idea, vicnada. As most of us lack the money to pay lawyers -- and I have seen unspeakable injustice go uncorrected BECAUSE the victims could not pay for legal representation -- will someone qualified to do so tell us how to go after relief from the crimes of our government? As always, civil action seems our ONLY recourse.
HOW do we do this?
 
 
+2 # peterjkraus 2012-01-16 17:44
Support Amnesty International, the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Center, that´s how.
 
 
0 # RLF 2012-01-20 05:41
Is that the same ACLU that supported Citizens United because it was free speech? Not sure I'll go there again.
 
 
+28 # teineitalia 2012-01-16 13:04
Echoing other sentiments here,I must also say, well done, Chris. It is deeply symbolic to see this news broken on the holiday Americans celebrate to honor another great voice advocating human rights and civil liberties, that of Martin Luther King.

We do, indeed live in perilous times, but it is up to us to rise to the challenge before us. It is a challenge of mythic proportion, because it calls into question our rights- and responsibilitie s-as a nation established by men who sought to change the world in favor of justice.

MLK did remind us that "the moral arc of the universe is long... but it bends toward justice." In that, at least, there is hope. But hope is limited, unless backed up by courageous action as demonstrated by people such as Mr. Chris Hedges. The price of freedom is, indeed, eternal vigilance.
 
 
+32 # John Locke 2012-01-16 13:10
I Believe this is a very necessary lawsuit. The Fascist that are in control of our government "must" be pushed back. This law is so blatently unconstitional it attempts to avoid most of the Bill of rights as well as avoid our right to hebeas corpus...The Constitution is the supreme law of the land and this bill is in direct conflict with its manifestations ... but i am at the same time very concerned about the make up of our supreme court, in all our history we have never had such incompetent lawyers in that court... This lawsuit, if Hodges should prevail, and I pray he does, is one opportunity to forestall the revolution currently brewing all across America. The next event is to change the direction of our country!!!!!
 
 
+25 # walt 2012-01-16 13:27
Right on, Chris Hedges!

Who among us ever thought we'd see the day when the US military could be used against our own people?

It's a total outrage and deserving of the lawsuit!

And shame on Obama for his failure to veto this fascist bill just to appease the screaming neocons!
 
 
+5 # mwd870 2012-01-17 06:20
This one sentence from the article strikes me as especially apropos.

'This demented “war on terror” is as undefined and vague as such a conflict is in any totalitarian state.'

The trend in this country toward a military police state is at once pointless, wasteful, and dangerous for Americans. Yes, a lawsuit is in order!
 
 
+18 # dloehr 2012-01-16 13:50
90% of liberals/progressives are giving the other 10% a bad name. Just watching PBS and listening to NPR is to be bathed in the studied impotence of yesteryear's Sweet Liberals: those who don't want to use words like Fascism, or even mention that in 1934 some of our plutocrats worshiped at the altar of Mussolini's fascism -- which Mussolini equated with corporatism. The Sweet Liberals seem to believe that calm reason will awaken all the reasonable people to stop acting in bad ways, as if that role still had a non-comical place today, after Citizens United and the DFAA. They only want to offend within narrow limits of polite -- or at least ineffectual -- behavior, then get back to another exciting episode of "Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me" on NPR -- which, like PBS, is now like Muzak for our docile liberal intelligentsia. Most liberal women still think abortion is only about women's rights, and doesn't require any moral defense beyond "a woman's right to choose." No wonder abortion is being attacked from almost every direction. It's been years since we lived in a democracy. We're living in a full-fledged American fascism, in which the government has the absolute power over our selves, our rights, and our actions. Sweet Liberals can't help us. It will take radicals. As a women's lib bumper sticker put it, "Nice Women Rarely Make History." This isn't a call for violence, but IS a call for confrontation to challenge the whole system, not just tweak it -- even if it's impolite.
 
 
+4 # Capn Canard 2012-01-16 17:14
dloehr, well said. Once the liberals get some power they kind of like it... Just like the Fascist GOP believe that they are god's chosen. You sound like you are as gobsmacked as I am at how blind people have become.
 
 
+18 # hjsteed 2012-01-16 13:53
The legislators who signed the NDAA should be put in jail for treason. They took an oath to uphold our Constitution and trashed our Bill of Rights our Constitution, the U.N. Charter and Universal Declaration of Human Rights with this legislation. Thank you for filing suit to prosecute these traitors.
 
 
+12 # Peace Anonymous 2012-01-16 14:02
Round up the execs from Chiquita for hiring AUC, a known terrorist organization, who was represented by Eric Holder and who received a basic slap on the wrist despite the fact that hundreds were killed by AUC and the settlement was such that no individuals at Chiquita were held personally accountable. But then considering their political connections why would they be.
 
 
+12 # sebouhian 2012-01-16 14:15
There can be no doubt now that the President has signed away habeas corpus that the citizens are no longer free to defend themselves against an authoritarian government that sees its citizens as potential enemies. President Obama has turned himself into an enemy of the people through this act. Even hope is gone, now. What's left? We'll find out--from the Leaders, and, maybe, from the people, maybe....
 
 
+20 # kayo 2012-01-16 14:25
Chris' suit may be quixotic, but an articl I read recently was entitled "No Act of Rebellion is Wasted." That means that even if the lawsuit goes nowhere it is a catalyst to other actions. We will win eventually, it's just that it will probably be later ather than sooner. But Chris has started it all. Bless him.
 
 
+20 # Carolyn 2012-01-16 14:26
for some time, I have thought that Chris Hedges is my hero, Now I know it. The democrati party is a thing of the past. Not one of them defines the real issues. A few of them refer to the inequities in the distribution of wealth. The redistribution is the Result of the intention of the government to disempower the governed, It is not the cause.

Oligarchy is the cause. As far as I know, (having been a child during Hitler's years of the Holocaust and the years of the heroic president FDR, Chris Hedges is the first to take action in addressing the truth.
The House has refused to pass the Glass-Steagall Act, which is the first and necessary step in saving the economy of the nation. the democrats have stood by Obama, who would veto the rescue of the nation's economy. The courage of Chris Hedges is the gift of clarity and courage in our times. We are the people of these times, creating the world that our children and grandchildren will inherit.
 
 
+10 # reiverpacific 2012-01-16 16:12
"dloehr"
You sound like a true and determined lefty and progressive as I hope I can be proudly identified.
"Just watching PBS and listening to NPR is to be bathed in the studied impotence of yesteryear's Sweet Liberals:"[Quote].
Absolutely!
All that PBS and NPR are good for now is "Car Talk"! I used to contribute a little to them when Bill Moyers was a programmer but when they dissed him and kept that yuppie-dolt-brat Fucker (oops -Tucker) Carlson, I dropped 'em like a hot brick.
They are even worse in some ways that FOX 'cause at least you know where that lot are comin' from and goin'.
They are just part of the owner-media since Michael Powell's time and "Ah fart in their general direction"! I wouldn't miss 'em one bit. Even their more supposedly entertaining stuff is so-o-o bourgeois dahlin' that it makes me wanna throw a ripe banana at them! Noam Chomsky (jokingly) once threatened to sue them for making him mad during his commute from M.I.T. Give what you used to give them to RSN and y'r local community radio!
Thanks for the comment on that particular sub-ject.
 
 
+10 # RMDC 2012-01-16 17:02
Thanks Chris Hedges. I wish this could be a class action suit. I'd join.

Obama's new NDAA is the legal equivalent of Bush's "you are either with us or with the terrorists." It is quite possible to be with neither one, or to recognize that the US is wrong to be occupying and regime changing nations and so support the people who are just defending their own nation from invaders. I certainly don't support the Taliban's political aims, but they have a greater right to decide what happens in their nation than Obama and the Pentagon do. I believe in "political self-determination," as I think most people do. That puts me and most people on the side of the Taliban. People have a right to choose their own government. The Taliban is a hell of a lot better than the Northern Alliance and war/drug lords that the US set up in Afghanistan after the Russians left. Lots of people in the US support Palestinians -- both PLO and Hamas -- over the Israelis. So does international law. And yet the US regime says Hamas is a terrorist organization and the PLO used to be a terrorist organization.

The Washington regime can now use this law to lock up and disappear anyone it chooses.
 
 
+11 # noitall 2012-01-16 18:25
We're all terrorists, fighting for our Constitution, our right to live peaceful lives, our right to resist the wars of the corporate fascists that have bought and continue to make payments to our leadership and our courts, and have written and adopted laws against American citizens and our rights including to petition and demonstrate against those who would usurp our Constitutional and cultural rights as Americans. We now call for our leadership that voted for these anti-Constitutional aggressions to resign their posts for breach of oath. We also direct our President to carry out these directives prior to his resignation.
 
 
+6 # disgusted American 2012-01-16 23:25
Why can't a class action be filed by we the people?

It's obvious this was done b/c 1% which includes the so-called representatives of the American people are terrified b/c they know worse is coming.

No different than what the Third Reich did in Germany. Hitler clones are running this country which includes both Democrats and Republicans.
 
 
+1 # noitall 2012-01-17 12:17
Since they own the courts, it makes it a bit problematic BUT if just one of the Supremes has a 'come to God' moment, Then the balance of justice tilts toward the objective with a 5/4 for the good guys. Fat chance? you're probably right.
 
 
-2 # markhalfmoon 2012-01-16 23:38
This lawsuit by Chris Hedges is doing exactly what I believe Obama wanted it to do. Challenge the law's legality in the courts. I believe he set it up to lose in court.

People who are just determined to dislike, mistrust and criticize every single thing President Obama does, of course will assume the worse. That he has some nefarious plot to sell them out to the evil forces of the world, etc.

I believe his back was up against the wall with this. Congress was going to pass it, with or without him. He agreed to sign it in return for planting legal bombs in it that I feel certain will cause it to be struck down in court.

The House of Representatives voted to pass the NDAA 2012 with 283 (65%) voting yes and 136 (31%) voting no. 14 (3%) didn't vote.

The Senate voted to pass it with 86 (86%) voting yes and 13 (13%) voting no. 1 (1%) Senator did not vote.
 
 
-1 # markhalfmoon 2012-01-16 23:40
I am just guessing that the 8 Republicans - including Michele Bachmann - that didn't vote the last time would have joined their colleagues in the House to make up the two thirds majority needed to hand President Obama an embarrassing defeat with an override of his veto in this election year. There's no question that there was more than the required number to override a veto in the Senate. It would have been a futile act of symbolism to veto it.

The veto of this bill, which primarily funds the entire Armed Forces, would cause a delay, during which troops in Afghanistan would not be paid, jets would be grounded for lack of fuel, the Pentagon couldn't pay its heating bill and thousands of shipbuilders and other workers employed by contractors with the military would be laid off. He doesn't have line item veto power so he couldn't just veto the part he didn't like.

President Obama would have begun his reelection year with Republicans blaming him for "not paying our brave combat soldiers," killing jobs, and being weak on defense. He knew he was going to catch hell for this decision, but he made a difficult choice. That's why he made the signing statement. What other reason would he do that? The wording of it was part of the legal sabotage he placed in it to help assure that the courts would overturn it.
 
 
-1 # markhalfmoon 2012-01-17 18:19
All the lefties who think he is just weak, immoral or corrupt are blinded by their one dimensional thinking. Why is it so hard to believe that this man is smarter than you?
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2012-01-17 08:56
Quoting
Kudos to Chris and all others called to similar quixotic challenge! Where his cause of action is clear due to the requirements of his profession and his extraordinary ethic of due diligence, I wonder if there is a citizen in this country who does not have true cause of action. How much does it cost to file such a complaint? And could a proforma complaint be professionally drawn up and published that any of us could file in our respective Federal jurisdictions? Why not flood the Courts with our "no" vote? And wny not take the opportunity to add the names of any of our respective Comgresspersons who voted "aye" to this treasonous piece of legislation?

Be comforted: there IS some hope in this direction but at the state-by-state level, which has already started by being overturned in Montana (a pretty conservative place) and is under challenge in many others. I was recently at a Town Hall meeting with our junior senator from Oregon, Jeff Merkely, who spoke at some length about this and is working with his senior Ron Wyden (they both voted against it), to bring it to review and vote here, so in increments across the nation, we can take it down whilst concurrently showing that "parcel o' rogues" in the Supreme Court, that they are NOT all-powerful. Let's put our energies into this -we are not alone if we act together.
 
 
+1 # robert1 2012-01-22 13:21
This is a real nightmare. I served 4 years as a U.S. Marine. Now of course the Marines have been used in many and various operations which would not fit into most of our moral codes and values. The interesting thing is, all Marines, (unless they have changed the oath) are committed to defending the Constitution of the United States. If the Constitution is corrupted then Marines are bound to defend it, as well as the other military bodies and of course it is in the best interest of those bodies as they will enjoy continued unlimited funding under the Capitalist/Fascist regime currently solidifying power. Thanks on behalf of those who are willing to see it for what it is and try and effect the needed change for the better. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. We have been asleep for too long!
 

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