Daniel Ellsberg says goodbye to Amazon with conviction. Here's just the first paragraph: "I'm disgusted by Amazon's cowardice and servility in abruptly terminating today its hosting of the Wikileaks website, in the face of threats from Senator Joe Lieberman and other Congressional right-wingers. I want no further association with any company that encourages legislative and executive officials to aspire to China's control of information and deterrence of whistle-blowing."
Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the so-called 'Pentagon Papers' during the Vietnam War, is currently an ardent anti-war activist. (photo: Mark Costantini/Chronicle)
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SHAME ON AMAZON - you are no longer my choice for purchasing books, etc. Your excuse for not publishing the Wiki Leaks is not believable!!!!! Too bad, I used to like your company and its service.
We should also boycott every member of the U. S. Chamber of Commerce, at least until they publicly quit that evil organization. Does anyone know how to get a list of members?
www.addall.com
I heard about it years ago, and that's my source for books. Half-price, Powells, Amazon, and lots of other and lesser known--and globally located--book sellers are there when you put in your book title--or you can search by author too.
I've got NO interest in the company--it's just what I've found to be the best place for books online.
Tomorrow, what books?
I encourage everyone to seek one of the many more credible,less greedy alternatives to the much too big Amazon.com.
Goodbye and Bad Luck Amazon!
Netflix has gone one step further, and begun dropping movies that "Have The Wrong Message"! However, there's no indicator of what the "Right Message" might be. They even carry Avatar, the message of which seems to be "Savages Up, Civilization Down", an odd choice for a company that relies on civilization or at least technology to make their money!
No more Amazon buying for me.
Here's a suggestion, Daneil E.: How about starting up a petition (before the internet is ripped away from we the sheeple) to have Assange receive either the Nobel Peace Prize (maybe a former recipient, Pres. Carter, could help), or, if that won't fly, a special commendation from the U.N. God knows, the U.N. has a lot of thanks that should be given to Assange. Such awards and recognitions could/should help offer Assange a bit of national and international protection and respect.
I want to congratulate Amazon on the efficient ecological service for distributing books and other essential goods and services, but it is impossible for my family to support an organisation which restricts key information designed to stop war death and destruction.
Please remove my account and name from Amazon's lists until Wiki-Leaks internet service and websites are restored to Amazon. The censoring of important information for the world's well-being will not be tolerated especially from an agency selling books. Service-removal over truth-telling is not a trustworthy action of any bookseller and those of us (90% of the population who read books) who buy books will not buy them from any corporation which restricts key information flows for human and planet.
If you are taking your orders from Joseph Lieberman and arms manufacturers bent on creating conflict and death, then most information seekers will not be interested in using you as a distribution channel. This includes a boycott not just books but for all materials and services.
Douglas Jack
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Wake up America! The entire 'Smaller Government' hue and cry from CONservatives is a big CON JOB, perhaps the biggest in human history. OUR Government is being torn asunder and reduced to nothing right out from under US through the politics of greed and momentary nonsense and being replaced by a hap hazard Corporcratic Government based on 'Corporate Cabal' whimsies, using taxpayers like corporate-contracting cash cows, 24-hour newz-psychols and schitzo-Media-Talkinghead-phrenia.
I hope Wikileaks puts out a tabloid issue for the "news stands" in the supermarket checkout aisle. Hillary in a swimsuit talkin' trash with NetanYahoo; and headlines like Putin's Gay Lover President Medvedev! The taxes from the sales could sure help our bum economy ...
We did not elect them to determine what is appropriate for us to read, review or see on the Internet, in museums, books & movies.
It about time the lies & questionable practices of our govt was made public. Maybe now instead of spending our money on foreign propaganda to start a Middle East arms race or bribing leaders, & terrorist groups you'll spend our money at home. It's easier to make a profit is through the established military industrial complex rather than new green sector products that compete with traditional petro-chemical industry.
We must fight for true Net Neutrality not the fake one being offered by the FCC chairman that gives corporation everything. The Internet is the last bastion of free uncensored information, anyone in this country that tries to impede our freedoms must be removed from power. If Connecticut has recall it's time to start the process to remove Lieberman & other rt. wing fanatics.
Like you, I am an academic living abroad and used to order from Amazon, but really disliked their swingeing shipping rates. Now, I either find what I'm looking for locally or through Abebooks: http://www.abebooks.com/
of fresh air. Good for Daniel Ellsberg in abandoning an enemy
of truth.
Now when CYBERTERRORISM comes from USrael - all is kosher.
What is Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate's committee on homeland security - doing against Cyber Terrorism - supporting terrorism.
ISP knows IPs/country where the attack is comming from.
Amazon is waking up - but too little too late - customer service will not have Merry Christmas 2010.
More telling: Recently at a White Hat Conference, a speech about Chinese hackers was pulled so as not to "offend" China!
Abebooks is a wonderful site. And although I live in China, I am able to order and receive books without any "regional" problems that Amazon has continually thrown up as a "barrier" to strict sending certain novels.
Another bookseller is Edward R. Hamilton Bookseller Co. at www.HamiltonBook.com. I deal with their catalogs through the mail, where you can purchase as many books as you want, for one shipping price of $3.50. They have a good selection of new and used, plus movies and music.
I regret to inform you that I will no longer be doing business with Amazon.com. Please cancel my account effective immediately. I have been a loyal customer for many years, and have greatly appreciated your services - however, I strongly oppose your decision to bar WikiLeaks from your servers. WikiLeaks has BROKEN NO LAWS - fair due process would make Wikileaks innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Our first amendment right is designed protect our freedom of speech and press - no government should be enabled to suppress its people's right to information. As the world's largest bookseller, Amazon.com had an opportunity to take a historic stand in favor of free speech and freedom of information, and chose instead to align itself with a government-backed McCarthy-style witch hunt. I will be taking my business elsewhere.
"It is discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit." Noel Coward (1899-1973) British playwright
"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." Mahatma Gandhi
These leaks are not about the peoples right to know, they are the reflection of a guy who hates America.
I will keep on buying books from Amazon. In fact I will increase my purchases.
Freedom of Information should be applied to everybody in every part of the world. If the government manipulates the info this is called censorship concealed under National Security excuses. Intimidation and fear are the tools used by governments to control citizens. Thank you, Daniel Ellsberg for your support to Wikileaks and freedom of expression.
If you question whether taking a public stand against government war policy requires courage, find some small way, in an instance you care about, to do this, and give yourself a chance to see how it feels.
Amazon, PayPal = EBay - are controlled by totalitarian ideology - NOT serving the customer or promoting free information flow.
DO NOT TRUST them - they open gates to totalitarian government - like USA.
and these attacks on the internet - in China against GOOGLE these were two government officials.
It needed massive criticism from various political parties before they cut the NPD off.
Palestinian Coexistence.
http://www.betterworldbooks.com/ It's a beautiful business system: they collect unwanted books from colleges and libraries, sell them online and use some of the profits — donating about $7 million to date — to help more people learn to read. Founded in 2002, Better World Books has 3 million new and used titles. Shipping is free in the U.S., but the Indiana firm charges a few cents for carbon offsets. It's a guilt-free read, the service amazing and they have a sense of humor.
To slay a dragon you cut off its head. To suit up for war, provide all of the intel vs. rhetoric about evil corporations and neocons designed to instigate reactive partisan uprisings.
Finally, I note the irony of Ellsberg's complaint against censorship and undue influence in a forum where posts are subject to approval and can be excluded. Amazon is demonised for making business decisions in its best interests, yet RSN can do the same without question.
I'm all for protecting free speech and ensuring government transparency isn't overridden by the needs of "national security". Just don't lie to me or insult my intelligence in order to garner support.
Thanks everybody for their support!
Esther S.
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