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I doubt this was Karl Rove's intention, but with his new book, he demonstrates how the Bush White House got away with lying. Here's the back story.

George W. Bush and his chief advisor Karl Rove, 06/15/06. (photo: AP)

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+30 # Guest 2010-03-06 02:00

Here's the thing that law and order conservatives don't get or refuse to admit they're being hypocritical.

If you or I have strong suspicions that our neighbor is going to murder our family and we decide instead to go kill him before he can even lift a finger to do it we will be convicted of second degree murder charges, and sent to prison for years.

Bush suspected wrongly that Iraq had WMD and was going to attack us even though France and Germany had contrary evidence, as well as most alternative media. Still Bush attacked resulting in tens or hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths including new born babies (You Pro-Lifers still reading?). Bush faces no accountability for his murderous actions. You and I go to prison. He gets wealthier and sets a horrible example for our children.

Paul Harris
Author, "Diary From the Dome, Reflections on Fear and Privilege During Katrina"

+1 # Guest 2010-03-07 07:29

Bush knew 100% all along no WMD exists. Mr. Harris you do not understand at all.

Iraq was NEVER a threat to the U.S.,although it was a threat to Israel. This was a chance to make big money for select elites. Halliburton, Blackwater, the weapons complex(Lockhea d skunkworks primarily) but many many more, and Israelis in northern Iraq right now who buy up all the land.

Bush lied all along and the "conservatives" you mention all worship Trotsky. This was the worst president since Reagan. The numbers prove everything. Keep it up people and yes the United States will be Brazil some day. Sooner than later. I have no doubt ploiticians will be strung up when that day comes and they will be looking for those that colluded with the corporate elite that has blended with good ole boy money. Both will pay the price in the end for fleecing America and targeting the middle class and upper middle class. THEY DESTROYED THE USA.

+1 # Guest 2010-03-07 18:27

I agree with much of what you say; but disagree that the Bush administration destroyed our country. I would say that they TRIED to destroy the United States. Thank God for our Democracy and the majority of people who are and were able to see through the GW Bush deceptions.

0 # Guest 2010-04-07 11:47

You give the people too much credit. As inconceivable as it now sounds, Bush 'sort of won' a second term thanks to "the majority of the people...who were [un]able to see through the Bush deception." It was term limits that saved our butts, not "the people", who were blinded by, or willful consumers of, GWB's egregious lies.

Barbara, how could you raise such an idiotic monster?

+15 # Guest 2010-03-06 05:39

Blatant and shameless political lying is still in vougue and too much of the public and the media could care less. Not only will we hear very little about this but also, current Republican pols (Hatch, McCain, etc) will not be seriously called to task on the blatant lying and hypocrisy regarding reconcilliation and the "nuclear option" as it is emerging around health reform. What do we tell our children about honesty and our government when some of the most prominent blatantly lie to us and then, in the case of Hatch, proclaim that he proudly wears the lable of "Liar"? (response to Maddow) Furthermore, what does Hastch say to his grandchildren?
Keep plugging David and thanks for your efforts.

+14 # Guest 2010-03-06 05:43

To do nothing is to grant impunity to officials in such situations and undermine the rule of law. The Obama government should arrest try and incarcerate this group even if the set off a civil war. It may be the only way left to clean Americas soul.

+8 # Guest 2010-03-06 05:50

The United States seems destined to go from one stupidity to the next. Health Care, education you name it, all are falling into decadence thanks to the military industrial complex the the last decent Republican president so wisely warned us about. And what can we do about it? Very little Im afraid except to appeal to courts that have also been co-opted bu the money of corperations.

+17 # Guest 2010-03-06 06:48

So. Why didn't Fitzpatrick indict Rove?
Will someone do that now? soon? When?

+4 # Guest 2010-03-06 08:36

Yes Teri, that's what I want to know. WHEN??

+11 # Guest 2010-03-06 06:48

This is amazing to me. The Bush administration LIED us into a war they didn't pay for and now the Obama administration can't even get health care reform because NOW the public is sick of government. Once again, the Repubs ruin the country, state, city, county, whatever and the dems get elected to fix it; they fix it and then the R's get re-elected due to the taxes or whatever the Dems had to do to fix the mess...and on and on.
Problem is that if the R's win again, there will be no fixin' ...they won't make that mistake again

+17 # Guest 2010-03-06 07:08

Why doesn't this present administration get it? Who are they protecting by not prosecuting the previous administration for the lies and truth manipulations that has cost many lives and started more global anguish? Are they afraid of setting precedent? The whole world is watching. DO SOMETHING SO THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN!!!!!

+1 # Guest 2010-03-06 21:02

Can we have a Tea Party on this account? Those ignoramuses should be educated on things like this. If only to let them know that their white brothers are the ones to blame for the situation facing this country and not President Obama.

+19 # Guest 2010-03-06 07:31

When are they going to indict these crimimals? First Cheney admits on national television that he promoted torture, now Rove makes millions admitting in writing that he outed a CIA agent--what do they have to do, persoanlly shoot someone in the face? Oh, wait...

+4 # Guest 2010-03-06 07:54

People like Bush Rove and Cheney are what makes Dexter so popular.

+7 # Guest 2010-03-06 08:38

Paul,
You're absolutely right. And unfortunately it's always been the case. There's a line by Cato to the effect of, "Small thieves go to prison, big thieves go to the (Roman) Senate."

+4 # Guest 2010-03-06 10:03

It's no more complicated than the case David Corn makes in this article:

GWB promised to fire anyone involved in the Plame scandal but Rove kept his job anyway.

Thanks, Mr former President, for making your priorities so clear.

+4 # Guest 2010-03-06 12:43

It would be difficult to write a novel this brilliant because it would really be just too hard to believe. A White House cover up of treason against it's own country to help lie The American people into war? They would never get away with it because Americans just aren't that stupid.

No! that plot wouldn't work! It's just to unbelievable. Great idea though. I just don't think people would buy it. Wait,,, I will put something in the drinking water that makes people really stupid, I'm on to something again. Brilliant!! NOT!!! ONLY IN AMERICA!! (the rest of the world doesn't buy crap like this)

0 # Guest 2010-03-07 09:20

You may think this is complicated but the primary diversion or premise is quite simple . . .

The Republic is under siege by an enemy so psychologically stealthy that they only need attack every two or three years to maintain their reign of terror, and then, in deference and respect for our infrastructure, only by using special shoes or underwear that malfunction.

Thanks to men like Dick Cheney and Jack Bauer -- "true" patriots -- willing to defend the Homeland by any means necessary, our freedom and safety is guaranteed.

Who said irony was dead?

+2 # Guest 2010-03-07 19:04

you don't have to put anything in the water, just the right wing air waves and the stupid people who were left behind in school will believe it.

+2 # Guest 2010-03-06 16:50

nobody will do anything because they 're all dirty and it will open a can of worms that will never go away.

+4 # Guest 2010-03-06 16:51

It could be that most Americans like to be lied to. Anyway, anything stupid these dudes (Karl and Georgy) do is not surprising at all!

A large portion of the USA population is used to being lied too and the other half don't give a hoot anymore. The degradation of the USA begin a long time ago with the Reagan Administration.

-4 # Guest 2010-03-06 18:49

Trouble is that Obama has been lying as well and he appears to be a clone of Bush. None of his promises have been kept and he failed to follow FDR's premise of shaming congress by use of Executive Orders.

+1 # Antonia Myss 2010-03-06 22:32

My sister isn't speaking to me: In the year leading up to the 2008 Presidential election, I lobbied her and her husband until I convinced them that Obama was the real deal and the candidate to vote for (although when McCain chose Palin as his running mate, that made my job infinitely easier). We are all terribly disappointed in Obama ("CHANGE," my ass); he thinks Dems will vote for him again because what will out choices be? Well, someone should tell him that Dems can choose to stay home and not vote. Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice...

+3 # Guest 2010-03-07 09:23

The worst thing the Obama administration has done by far (so far) is to grant immunity to the criminals of the former administration. Obama's only rational is that he doesn't think it's good to look backwards. But since all crimes occurred in the past, by this logic, all prisoners should be freed and absolutely nobody should ever be prosecuted for any crime. If that's what Obama really thinks, then why apply it ONLY to the war criminals of the Bush administration?

+2 # Guest 2010-03-07 09:28

We know that we can't trust Republicans, whose mission seems to be to pervert the truth for their own purposes. The Democrats have proved to be factious and spineless. They all seem crooked and too deep in it to get out.
Please consider a third party. It's time to find viable candidates and support them. We can't worry about the Nadar effect any more. We have to get some reasonably honest representation.

+1 # Guest 2010-03-07 12:09

Lies abound and have abounded for years, reaching an all time high during the BushWhacked years, and ever since with the war profiteering, corporate owned and controlled 'free press'. The power and greed mongers in this, the U.S. of (greed and power) A. (ddiction), are now doing high level spin and manipulation on the man who promised us CHANGE & HOPE.

+1 # Guest 2010-03-07 12:09

Brian, you are so right! All crimes are in the past; it's just the biggest ones get passed over. And we have seen some whoppers.

Start with 2 planes causing spontaneous perfect demolitions of 3 steel & concrete buildings for the first time in history--and by fires of insufficient temperatures, no less.

Then off we go to Afghanistan to build a pipeline & grow poppies, & to Iraq to grab oil fields for Cheney's energy task force & land for Israel, shock & awe having already been carried out in NYC.

Isn't it still a crime to have knowledge of a crime and not report it to the proper authorities? Or if you are the authority with documented confessions and don't prosecute, aren't you breaking the law?

-1 # Guest 2010-03-07 16:02

Oh? You mean there were other buildings just like the World Trade Center that had super jetliners crash into them too?

-1 # Guest 2010-03-07 12:14

I suspect Mr. Change & Hope wants to live to fight another day.

+1 # Guest 2010-03-07 18:48

hey, nice comments by everyone. all of you are right. but let's get done to where it's really at. life or death! no one dares to cross those few who own the wealth, the govenment and it's politicians. they're the same people who own the media, the country's entire infrastructure, the banks the stock market, our jobs, pensions(what's left of them) healthcare, the courts. Fitzpatrick nor the current justice department, the supreme court, Obama or anybody else better not even think about crossing these people or their puppets, ie; Bush, Rove, etc. Everybody knows death is the price, and i'm not talking political death. It's easy, just look back over the history of this nation. Anybody that gets in the way gets whacked. Rove, Bush, Cheney, and others have no fear. They can do what they want cause they're protected. Of course, we can't just sit idlely by, we must fight. every single one of us in the ways that we can. vote, become active in your community and don't stop, or we're dead.

+5 # Guest 2010-03-07 18:49

Informing us that Bush and Rove have lied is like telling us that the Pacific Ocean is wet.

-1 # Guest 2010-03-07 19:03

hey ya'll, it's me again. there aren't enough of us that can appreciate this website and the things mr. corn says in this article. certainly, this is barely the "tip of the iceberg". but, we all know that. fyi, just in case you didn't know, there's a nice documentary one can google and observe that gives alot of detail and important history showing how this state of affairs got to this point and is moving forward to an even deadlier solution. "wake up call new world order remastered". just more info to add to your "intelligencia". check it out! none of us, nor our children and their children want to be their slaves.

hope my comments get posted.

-3 # Guest 2010-03-07 22:15

Corn's piece is pure deception. I fortunately read his hyper jump to the New York Times article and there is no way Rove, according to the Times account, was saying he leaked Plame's CIA link to Novak. Yet Corn asserts Rove admits this. Corn misled the reader. Look this up for yourselves. Publishing such drivel is just too partisan for me, and not about journalistic accuracy.

+1 # Guest 2010-03-08 11:41

Francis,
You want to know, "When are they going to indict these criminals?"
You can help by contributing to former attorney general Ramsey Clark's mission:

www.impeachbush.org

0 # Guest 2010-03-08 13:57

Corn says:
"But Rove had indeed leaked the information about Valerie Plame Wilson..."
"In the book, Rove recounts that at some point he told the president he had been one of Novak's sources for the Plame leak."
The NYT says:
"He discloses that after the furor erupted, Mr. Bush called him from the Oval Office to ask about his involvement. Mr. Rove says he told the president that he had had a conversation with the columnist, Robert Novak, in which Mr. Novak told him that Mr. Wilson’s wife was a C.I.A. official, and he responded, 'I have heard that, too,' a comment that Mr. Novak took as confirmation."
Possibly Rove chose words (and a way of saying them?) that he knew Novak would take as confirmation, but would maintain plausible deniability for Rove. At best Corn oversimplified.

+1 # Guest 2010-03-08 15:09

If you have any doubt about Bush's lying read ron suskind's book "the way of the world" the Brits managed to get Saddam's top intelligence office to tell them that the whole thing was a ruse to trhow off the Iranians. Bush's comment to this briefing two weeks before operation Iraqi freedom "-f-em we're goin in!" This ranks right up there with the Nziis burning down the Reishtag and blaming it on the communists

+1 # Guest 2010-03-09 14:36

http://indictbush.org is the best set of people working on justice for the Bush Administration

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