Michael Moore responds to Rahm Emanuel's use of the F-bomb when responding to the UAW.
White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, 11/02/08. (photo: The American Prospect)
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Third Party. (Call it that!).
We need a fundamental change in the way things are done so that no one is left behind in poverty and no one is without a voice in how it gets done. That's what we need and to get there we need a far better educated public with less ME-ism and more US-ism capable of longterm goals rather than short term gains.
Simple as that and until that day it will be the sameol', sameol' whatever the Party 'color'.
God Bless Micheal Moore for reminding us of how it was and how it can be again. Long live Unions!
In order for the Greens to have some power, you need to have a proportional representation system. What we have in some (most) English speaking countries (New Zealand now has pro rep), is the first past the goal post system, and small parties cannot have any power, because they don't have a chance to form government.
Germany, and all of the European Continent have had pro rep governments ever since I can remember, and I'm a senior.
In a pro rep system every vote counts, and even if your Green party has 5% of the votes cast, and didn't elect a single member, they probably still get a couple of seats in Parliament (House of Reps.?). Once they get someone in there, they can have a certain influence on policies.
But how to change the current systems in the Anglo world? It took New Zealand 4 referenda, but in the end they did make it. In Canada and the US we can't even get to that step.
Obama's been a little more direct about it, painting WHITE militias as a bigger threat to America than MOSLEM militias, and having SWAT-equipped thugs drag a Little Old Lady out of the way of the Presidential Motorcade, when she tried to do her version of "You Shall Not Pass"
All rhetoric aside--and that's the problem--Obama was elected on a basis of being the TRANSPARENT, ACCESSIBLE President, but anyone who sees through him is a racist, and the only ones he's ACCESSIBLE to are the Corporations, from BP to the banks...What about the "grassroots" campaign that got him elected? Isn't he beholden to them and THEIR money, more than the Special Interests? Wasn't he bragging about how much he raised from ordinary citizens?
Glenn Beck was outspoken against Bush starting mid-2006 at the latest (I didn't listen to him before then). Limbaugh and Hannity both spoke out against adding prescription drug coverage to Medicare, as well as Bush's failure to keep out illegal immigrants. Recall that the Minutemen started while Bush was president.
Regarding war and tax cuts, Bush received no criticism from the Right other than that there was not enough.
Let's seek, he's hired tax-evaders and CEOs of failed companies into his Cabinet, bailed out banks but not the customers, passed a phony "reform" in healthcare that just benefits Big Insurance, stopped Arizona from putting a cork in our open-wound "border" (Obama needs to learn to put a cork in it!)
And you want to believe that we're only REALLY mad about his SKIN COLOR!
As to the only President whose office was deliberately messed up, look what Clinton did when HE left office, pardoning a Mafia accountant and a drug lord. They finally gathered enough evidence to nail them, and they have to let this scum go, because Clinton's Orders From On High!
He has my support.
There is NOTHING wrong with the US economy. Note for example:
The ultra rich, or those with investable assets of at least $30 million, increased their wealth by 21.5 percent last year, and investing in residential real estate has regained appeal among the wealthy, according to the "2010 World Wealth Report" by Capgemini and Merrill Lynch Wealth Management.
http://www.us.capgemini.com/worldwealthreport2010/
Also note:
http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts-about-wealth-and-inequality-in-america-2010-4
It's time to stop complaining, get rich, and join the Tea Party!
[Lest you think that I am serious, I am NOT. I realize that there's nothing funny about the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer (and more numerous), but the increasing financial chasm in this country makes me ill. The more people who see and understand this situation, the better.]
PLEASE PASS THESE STATS ON TO EVERYONE YOU CAN. REMEMBER, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!
...but does he have the stones to stand up and fight for us?
NEVER MIND MICHEAL'S STONES... DO YOU OR I HAVE THE STONES TO STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR US??
Oh for Pete's sake Maggie!!!! I'm talking about Obama, not Michael Moore.YES, he does...I do too and so do you.
the Director of Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection. To see her
speech re: what it would take to get us back on the road to middle class
security see today's Democracy Now! http://www.democracynow.org/2010/9/7/elizabeth_warren_says_consumer...
Rahm Emmanuel hates her and that's good enough reason to sign for me!
Well, I've had a bitch for you since you did it! Maybe it's best you stay OUT of politics and just make movies?!!!
Fucking A man! (Geez...am I getting carried away or what?! But who fucking cares?)
Why IS this country so screwed up that someone has to point out that our leaders should try and be slightly less of an asshole to the people who elected them? Why must we spend so much effort in keeping our leadership from causing too much harm to this nation? We do nothing to help people. We only have leadership that is willing "to take the edge off" screwing us at every opportunity. We vote, not for those who will actually help us, but we vote for those who we think will screw us over the least. I grow very weary of being screwed at each opportunity where decency could be of significant help.
85% of people are "religious". Do none of you believe what is preached? Where does the Bible say "go forth and plunder, taking that which does not belong to you"?
If the latter, please look up the Moslem Cult, which puts a wonderful psedo-religious gloss on rape, murder, subjugation, and de-facto slavery, even of their OWN people (Especially the women)
The Indians had the opportunity to assimilate, and were evicted failing that. They later got tax-free Neverlands where they'd Never have to pay Property Tax, Never have to grow up and assimilate, and Never quit bitching about what they LOST, forgetting that they now enjoy our technology as much or more than we do!
As to Mexico, they reneged on a land-deal with Samuel Houston, they attacked us to enforce their cheating, we fought back and won. Oh, and Mexico tried to make it a Holy War, the Noble Catholics against the Evil (and more productive) Protestants!
Not only that, but America has a nasty habit of paying the LOSER of a war, not only helping them rebuild, but making them Better Than Before!
Proof? Astronomical tonnages of expensive, profitable & deadly munitions the U.S. has expended on yellow and brown people over the last fifty years, justified by the lie of "protecting American interests" liberally sprinkled with the God & Country brand of patriotic claptrap and jingoistic bullshit. Casualties are the cost of doing business, merely a commodity to be used up and replaced with new.
Henry Kissinger, Donald Rumsfeld and scores of others should be tried and executed for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Sure I'm being sinfully crude, but everywhere I turn, getting screwed or not is never an option. Of course I'm going to get screwed.
What about the Foreign Aid given to every dirty corner of the world, from Zimbabwe to Egypt to Southeast Asia, to Haiti?
Why are we giving aid to countries that are not only manifestly ungrateful, voting against us in the UN, etc., but sometimes openly HOSTILE to us.
Did you not witness Haiti's and Somalia's attempts to STEAL the aid we were giving them? Apparently, we're not handing it out fast enough!
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/unvote.asp
Remember, we're not just doing this in a vacuum, and these loser countries know it. They extort Foreign Aid from us, because if we don't, they'll take their "business" to China or Russia...Is that really such a bad thing?
Robert Kennedy couldn't have said those words 42 years ago, which would have been September 1968. He was assassinated in the first week of June 1968.
So here we are. Who is Westinghouse today? The main winners are Siemens, ABB and Toshiba.
Blame the unions? Or blame the Corporate leaders who only looked at the bottom line.
It's not too late to turn this Ship of State away from the rocks and get back on course, but it's going to take focus and determination to pull it off in time. No time left for bi-partisan compromise that goes no where. It's time to blow up the way over misused filibuster and start using reconciliation. Just like Pres. Shrub used to do.
Time for talk; over. Time for action; now. These assholes on the right are beyond reasoning with anymore and must simply be outvoted, outmanuvered, continually called on their shit; and challanged with the truth.
We don't need to use "dirty tricks" bogus voting machines or Fox lies, we just need to start throwing the first punch, setting the tone of the debate and getting on the offence.
We need more people like Moore, Grayson and Frankin leading the charge.
Sure, we've been M.I.C.T.'ed (military/industrial/corporate/terrorism coup de etat, with our villianaire rulers now in almost total control. Out of sight, with Bush/Beck style puppet whores out front, they've been saying 'fuck you' to all we the sheeple for awhile now.
Thanks, Michael, for all you do to help us take off the blinders, first step needed for us to get to work to.....
UNDO THE COUP!
Oh,and George Bernard Shaw was the one who said, "You see things and you say, "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I ask, "why not?"
It's way past time for Rahm Emmanuel to go, or his role contained to a campaign strategist.
Michael has it right on the issues. Democrats need to get very clear about what is going on and support our brave President who is doing the best he can against incredible odds. Given the corporate power he faces and the Republican double-speak that gets so much media attention, it is currently impossible to do all that is needed; the fact he is making headway at all is tremendous.
Aloha,
Gail Breakey,
Honolulu
Rahm, Obama's leech, has repeatedly chopped his boss's candle. Think health care, offshore drilling, economic recovery, and now "fuck the UAW." So damned eager to please Wall Street, big oil, and the GOP. These guys are like some I knew earlier--they weren't trust fund babies, but they ACTED like trust fund babies to impress the rich brats.
Yet I must admit Rahm and his leash are doing wonders for uniting the nation. By November, I think just about everyone--including those of us who put these pricks in office--will doubt them.
Bad, often selfish, management creates unions. They should know that. And they should also quit pissing on the middle class.
Maybe it's time for a national union.
My husband and I are losing everything and believed in Obama. Today I have come to the sad place that I can't vote anymore, not even for the "lesser evil" as it has become just too evil, for me.
I believe we are living in the audacity of false hope and the proof is in the pudding, nothing (real) is changing in any substantial ways and I no longer see it happening (at least in these current times), unless are real leader, with real integrity finally comes along again to put forth the things you are saying. I once thought but no longer think Obama is that person.
A viable third party and term limits might help.
"The goodness of money was as unmistakable as the goodness of health or beauty, and a glittering car, a title or a horde of servants was mixed up in people's minds with the idea of actual moral virtue." British empire would fall into a precipitous decline. For reasons which baffle me, many Americans think that by voting "rich", by voting "anti-union", by voting for the f*****g oligarchy, it will somehow "magically" rub off on them and transport them to the land of sweeping, gated estates with statues of little black men in riding britches on either side of the palatial front door. We are fast on our way to becoming a two-tiered society. In a "just" society Rahm Emanuel would be working two or three jobs "manufacturing" hamburgers, pouring lattes for "manicured" dirt/douche bags and then cleaning out the johns at "executive" men's washroom underneath the Senate chambers. Be great wouldn't it? Here's a f*****g dime. Save it for your kids college education.
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty".
Thomas Jefferson
I beg to differ. As issues go, I'll take the truth in any way it comes. People too put off by f-bombs aren't in the habit of listening. If you've never cared enough about anything to sometimes slide into vulgar language, maybe you haven't cared enough about anything at all. Vocabulary issues are the least of my worries and yes, I'm a scholar and know plenty of better vocabulary. Sometimes though, nothing will serve better than an occasional "fuck it". If that really offends you, you're not paying attention.
F-bomb the Tea Parties and the Koch brothers who financially back them.
Thanks Michael.
If I were really Upton Sinclair I would insist that you read "Flivver King", "The Industrial Republic", "100% Patriot", "The Brass Check" or maybe some of the other 80-90 books he wrote.
It makes me sad to read, like one poster did above, that some are happy to see the great United States and the ideals we thought were secure by our Constitution, being destroyed. We the people need to assert that the Constitution is by the people and for the people, and not by the corporations and for the fucking corporations. Supporting unions is a must. It is also a must that we don't sit out the November elections because we are disappointed that things have not changed fast enough
Imagine what a Republican led Congress will do, EVERYTHING AND NOTHING. Everything to make President Obama's last two years a living hell with whatever lawsuits they can dream up, reverse everything good done so far, and NOTHING in the way to help the people. Republicans love it that we are having to grovel for low paying jobs. Cheap labor is good for their bank accounts in the Caymans and yachts do cost a lot.
Truth be told, many don't even bother to vote. Why should they? I mean dollars work better than votes. Don't even bother to blame the masses for their betrayal. It doesn't quite work that way. Too complacent? Yes, but that's why we have revolts and one is brewing for sure.
He will use any power he can find to promote the only two things he cares for; Rahm Emmanuel and Israel.
Those rich thieves who have so totally mismanaged America into the poor house, while getting even more stinking rich themselves are more to his liking. As incompetent as they are, they actually control something in this benighted country.
Luckily, my old company folded, as have SOME of the outsourcers, and smart companies are bringing operations back to America, albeit on a greatly reduced scale!
However, it's odd to note that foreigns are both "desperate" and scabs at the same time, but it's somehow "humanitarian" to let the Corporations bring them in by the MILLIONS, putting Americans out of jobs, and making massive slums in America...Illegals were just a tool from Reagan to break the Power of the Evil Unions--and they succeeded beyond his--or YOUR--wildest expectations! But because they can get a Better Life at the expense of Americans, it's "racist" to fight them--then they turn around and bitch about being "exploited"! The ingratitude is amazing!
Ignoring totally that someone has to operate the machines (Like Jetson pushing the button in that old cartoon), someone has to build them, someone has to build the circuitry that goes inside them, someone has to program them, someone has to repair them when they break, and so on.
Like the cars that put horse&buggy workers out of business, they end old jobs, but create new jobs--and these new jobs, are the cleaner, higher-tech jobs we were all promised, remember?
"Let X take care of the low-level jobs, so you have more leisure time, and can focus on management and Upper-Level jobs!"
X can be anything from Mexicans to robots, but the other half hasn't happened yet!
We need 4 new countries, all based on the US Constitution. Put a police line around Washington D.C. and everyone inside goes to work camps.
This is going to be an easy revolution. The left and the right are both so hopping mad at our completely broken political process that we are ready to destroy the village in order to save it.
Alan Grayson - now that there's a Democrat!
But without tariffs, we will all be fired whenever there's another country that can--and WILL--work cheaper, without fear of unionizing. I think China will beat us all, because they force their prisoners to work, in a system reminiscent of 1800s slavery, and even the WORST-paid worker can't compete with FREE prisoner-slave labor!
That said, it has struck everyone as a HUGE irony that CHINA is having labor-disputes! A country that would bring a tank to bear on people demanding democracy, what will they do to upstart workers? And will that crush the old lie of Communism as the Worker's Paradise?
I. for one, believe we should start to clean up our language. Learn how to express yourself powerfully in our language without having to resort to profanities, that just cheapens it.
The prez could use some guidance.
Love, Aggie
You got my vote.
Put it to these scumbag so-called leaders and their perverse policies.
Right on!
Now you folks get your Dem friends out on 11/2/10 or we will slide into a living hell.
If the ranting bigots (i.e. Republicans) take over Congress -- g-d help us.
Obama ----- FIGHT and be VISIBLE. Act a little more forceful -- get angry and fight for the little people.
Yes, I want WALL STREET to pay us back.
Returning Congress to the Republicans who made this economic mess!
Let's hope Rahm Emmanuel decides to run for mayor of Chicago and leaves the White House.
"Politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They OWN you. They own EVERYTHING... they have LONG since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the State houses, the city halls... they got the judges in their back pockets...and they own ALL the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They've GOTCHA BY THE BALLS. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying... lobbying for what they want...
...they OWN this fucking place. It's a big club, and U ain't in it! U and I ain't in The Big Club...good honest hardworking people... continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don't give a fuck about them. They don't give a fuck about U! They don't GIVE a fuck about U!!!"
Michael Moore is a fine chap with a good heart, and what he says may be all that can be said for now.
His paean to the middle class, however, bears the weight of false nostalgia. True, Reaganomics helped kill the dream, but wages had flat-lined ten years before. True, unions had led the struggle for equity, but were woefully slow in coming to the Civil Rights Movement and the Anti-War Movement.
The problem? Social class, racism, sexism and imperialism are all cut from the same cloth. This nneds to be seen and heard.
Mr. Moore and the UAW are wonderful examples of American progressivism, but American progressivism must look forward, not back. It must discover seeds for the future, not to the not-so-golden past.
I've been a Shop Steward for over 20 years and I yearn for more than capitalism with a human face.
Use those rifles and guns that they will have to 'pry from your cold dead hands' & start rounding up and shooting the phuker's who stole your country.
Then never again, will the rich & dual nationals, like Rahm & Obama seek to take from the middle classes and poor the essentials of life.
Your country's run by a shadow govt & has been since 9/11, under continuity of govt legislation. These fools are just for the world & your enemy's entertainment as deliberate disinfo campaign. When the shootin' starts - you'll get back your country & not before. There are times when it is necessary to water the tree of liberty with the sacrifice of human blood. Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.The secret to getting the right answers starts with asking the right questions. You can wait for nuclear terrorism at home (Israeli false flag to garner support for war with Iran), and the resulting civil war, then nuclear world war.
We most certainly are, but don't think it's because of these comments!PPuull leeezzz!
You speak of the 1937 UAW like it still exists today. The 2010 UAW is just as corrupt and entangled as the US Government is. It sounds to me a lot like you're saying "Fuck the US Government" and yet, I could completely paraphrase your entire rant and talk about how in 1775 these rag tag settlers fired a shot that was heard around the world and how the US revolution started revolutions around the world. The Constitution that was formed in the following years has been ripped to shreds in the past 50. Was it in 1947 with the creation of the CIA and a shadow government? In 1963 with the coup de dat assassination of Kennedy? In 1913 with the creation of the Federal Reserve on Jekyll Island? In 2001 with the false flag attack on the twin towers? I say Fuck the UAW and Fuck the US government. Fuck em all.
If we don't start think with some common sense we are doomed as a society.
Quit letting the DUELING FOOLS win your mind. Lefty, righty - don't be so simple.
Return to honest money and do away with debt-based money managed by a fractional reserve centralized banking cartel. I don't see any solution short of taking this action.
Great article! Let's form a third party. The Republicrats and Democans are so much alike you can't tell the asses from the elephants. They forgot they were elected to serve us not to serve themselves to our tax money!
America WAS a great nation until they started arrivfing from Europe after WW2 and now they are in total control, there is nothing Americans can do short a revolution.
I'm kinda, sorta with you on the revolution bit, but do we have to blame the Zionists? Is it really that simple? I mean, are you suggesting that if there were no Jews in power we wouldn't be having the mess we're having now?
Do you know how inappropriate that sounds? What kind of final solutions did you have in mind?
I did not talk about any final solution, please do not put words in my mouth.
Here's a reality check for people who do not get it... those people in government and as the CEO's of companies don't give a shit about you, your family, your health or anything else. Americans have to stand up and take control of what's left while they can. There are specific times in history when people have to stop the b.s. and stand up for what is right and they have to do it for themselves and for their family and descendent's. This is one of those times. It doesn't matter what your color is, what religion you practice, none of that matters... you are all citizens and you are all Americans and you have to put a stop to the crap.
The entire right wing conservative movement would be running for cover or crawling back into their cesspools!
America could again, become a "civilized" nation among the other world nations.
Hell, one can hope, can't he? It is this hope that the GOP, Fox news and it's vocal demons, the RWC (right wing conservatives) will change the constitution and make it illegal to think and vote!
80% of the American people were right there with GWBush - not able to see through the lies and wanted to go to war!!! Now 70% of pompous Americans want to irrationally oppress the voice of Islam without considering the consequences. That's probably many of you! And personally, I find it profoundly SAD!
They put too many demands, too high a pay and too many benefits on the table with the backing or solidarity of the local government.
This is fine for the people who have jobs, but horrible for the rest of the people who have no chance of getting a job because it costs too much to employ somebody.
I know this because that's what all the unemployed people coming from east of the Mississippi tell me, as they come here looking for jobs...desperately...and I live in AZ!
We've allowed the CNNs' of this world with all their emphasis on "World Business Today" and "Quest Means Business" to convince everyone that the American economy is "Investment Driven" whereas, in reality the American economy is "Consumer Driven". You can invest all you want in any business you want, but if people don't buy your product, where are you???
Any society that allows (encourages) some people to "earn" millions of dollars while others are wallowing in abject poverty and exist at the mercy of the "credit economy" has got its priorities wrong and something MUST be done about it.
This, to me, says something about the 'Quality of Life' that our right wing media like to brag about.
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