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Good for Obama, bad for America.
GROAN!
I had voted for Obama, so I was shocked as well. Though the way Obama has treated the banksters and corpsters since then, it is clear which way he went.
I have no doubt that Ralph's assessment of the field and Obama's chances at this time are precise. I came to much the same conclusion yesterday, but it gives me no joy.
What would you rather have..Republican's setting us up as Hitler did...only the rich are the privy and the rest of us treated like dirt? Or give Obama a chance to follow through with his promises that have been blocked by the Republicans and wall street rich kids? or are you a Republican who is completely blind to the facts? I say give this good man a chance to put the middle class back on the map.
He who saves the homeowners and the American Dream will win the election. “To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history ... .” Guess who? (2009) Think he ever meant it?
Without the removal of Geithner, Bair & Berneke from his pockets [PDQ] - I think ya got a good chance that he ain't gonna win a 2nd term.
No doubt a third party effort will not win this time, however, if those of us who are disenfranchised by our governments lies, and the manipulation of our votes will place our votes with the Greens, Socialist or other, then at least we have sent the message that our votes are sacred, that We-the-People object to their corruption, and we will not be taken for granted. Or are you so concerned with this moment only, that you fail to see the larger vision of America, once a beacon, now a swirl of dirty water circling the drain? Neither party represents us, stop playing their game.
Progressives would do well in the next election to support Democratic congressional candidates, especially those challenging Republican incumbents.
I note Nader's omission of any reference to the worst economic climate since the Great Depression. Like too many privileged progressives, the falling fortunes of the bottom 50% of this country - systemic joblessness/underemployment , falling wages and continuing record foreclosures - doesn't even register in their minds when they think about public matters. Apparently, Nader and Obama are of one mind on this crisis. That is, they have no thoughts at all.
Yet, these are precisely the conditions that cost the Democrats dearly in the 2010 election.
I don't know what possessed Nader to write this piece, except to excuse himself from national politics in the next election and give the crown to Obama. What a pathetic statement. Did he get a payoff?
" . . . the conditions that cost the Democrats dearly in the 2010 election" Was a result of the current economic situation - Yes, AND the Rights amazing ability to Spin that in thier favor, however, thier over zealous actions to destroy Unions, cut funding for Public Prigrams, and thier pledge to cut Taxes for the Wealthy at all costs will be thier downfall in 2012.
You fail to understand the economic disaster started with your friends Bush/Cheney. When they decided to deregulate. When they lied us into war, for oil.
Please, open your eyes and your mind.
As FDR said:
A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward.
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1939 --
If it's Obama versus any Republican, it will be the anti-Bush decision for me. Obama will get my vote, despite the huge disappointment he's been to me. But give me RN or another choice that's a fighter for the causes of a Progressive nation, and my vote will go to them. If that clears the way for another Republican to win, then it won't be my fault or the candidate's fault; It will be AMERICA'S fault. Just like the last three times have been.
Nixon said his political philosophy was to "talk conservative but act liberal". In Obama's case it's been almost the opposite.
The President of the USA is not a King (Bush/Cheney acted like Kings) -- and yet much of the criticism from the left expects President Obama to make change aa one just bc King George "W" Bush ...
Meanwhile ex-Senator Feingold (and others) are pushing the STupremes to look at the folly of their 2011 Decision which allowed the USA to have the "best government money can buy" -- and then no President will have to deal with the insanity of Rep Ryan Paul's "privitize Social Security, vouchers for medicare, etc" and "give more tax cuts to the rich" even those who don't pay anyway and those who DO NOT MAKE JOBS IN THE USA.
To put this in perspective, just think about the deaths and damage that resulted from the narrow Bush "election." And the fact that our nation has been greatly weakened and divided.
We can't ignore this, nor should you. If Nader is as wise as he has always claimed he should have foreseen this and dropped out of the race in 2000. Instead, embittered, he chose not to.
Yeah, they probably were. The fact that they were ineligible has nothing to do with it.
" BTW, Gore probably did win the vote in FL."
When all is said and done, this is about the only thing you have to hang your hat on. Very lame.
Of course they were ineligible dear Rock, they dared to try to VWB - Vote While Black (or Brown). What were those uppity bastards thinking - that they really do deserve the same rights as Caucasians? Tsk. Tsk.
You, should get the facts before you "hang your hat" on nothing more than snark. It really diminishes other people's perception of your intelligence.
The only question is, will those college age idealists who organized and voted for him in 2010 turn out in 2012. My guess, no. And why should they. Obama is a corporatist appeaser. He hasn't fought for anything he promised in his campaign speeches. So it doesn't matter if he wins a second term. What little influence he has will be squashed.
The Democrats have proven that they are spineless enablers. Obama has zero credibility as a negotiator. Obama will serve a second terms as a lame duck. The only possibility of a different scenerio is if the teabagging GOP implodes ala Paul Ryan.
Stop wars NOW, save USA - all other issues are NOW insignificant.
But no vote means no democracy.
Pres. Obama has many people whispering in his ear. Unfortunately he is listening. Why? Why so different now that you are in office Mr. President? What is it behind those doors of government, that all bets are off?
What is it that you now know, that "We the People" do not. That which changes everything.
I understand that there is racism against Obama, they use euphemisms like tea baggers or birthers instead of klan or fascist.
The more to the right Obama moves, the more to the right "The Right" moves, so we get the likes of Bachmann, Palin and The Donald! Not radical politics, not republicans, but radical ideologues. What could be more dangerous?
Ideology is not something you can argue with reason. There is no reason, that's why they sound so ignorant. That is why it is so very dangerous. These people would rather see this nation die than not be in control.
What we need to take from all of this, is that we need to have a much greater hand in determining our future. It can't be left in the hands of our "representatives '. We need to vote and shout and demonstrate until the wealthy and powerful stop trampling us into nonexistence !
Also we must stop the media from elevating these radicals for ratings. They just feed into the fear, not help.
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