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Paul Krugman writes, "Mitt Romney has a gift for words - self-destructive words. On Friday he did it again, telling the Conservative Political Action Conference that he was a 'severely conservative governor.' ... of words that most commonly follow the adverb 'severely'; the top five, in frequency of use, are disabled, depressed, ill, limited and injured."

Portrait, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, 06/15/09. (photo: Fred R. Conrad/NYT)
Portrait, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, 06/15/09. (photo: Fred R. Conrad/NYT)


Severe Conservative Syndrome

By Paul Krugman, The New York Times

13 February 12

 

Mitt Romney has a gift for words - self-destructive words. On Friday he did it again, telling the Conservative Political Action Conference that he was a "severely conservative governor."

As Molly Ball of The Atlantic pointed out, Mr. Romney "described conservatism as if it were a disease." Indeed. Mark Liberman, a linguistics professor at the University of Pennsylvania, provided a list of words that most commonly follow the adverb "severely"; the top five, in frequency of use, are disabled, depressed, ill, limited and injured.

That's clearly not what Mr. Romney meant to convey. Yet if you look at the race for the G.O.P. presidential nomination, you have to wonder whether it was a Freudian slip. For something has clearly gone very wrong with modern American conservatism.

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+29 # Bruce Gruber 2012-02-13 08:04
Though 'severe' might be a most appropriate descriptor.
 
 
+85 # genierae 2012-02-13 08:21
The election of a black man to the Presidency of the United States has knocked these already unstable Republicans off their rockers, and they can't seem to regroup, and regain the little bit of sanity that they possessed. President Obama keeps needling them, and treating them like wayward children, and this only serves to increase their hatred of him. While it's very satisfying to watch, I am concerned about his safety. What a tragedy if anything should happen to this good man. The GOP hate-mongering is irresponsible and dangerous, and those Republicans who still have some sense left, need to put a stop to it.
 
 
+70 # Regina 2012-02-13 08:49
Show us a Republican with any "sense left" -- "sensible Republican" is an oxymoron. They are all dedicated to Obama's failure -- that's the one Republican statement that's true.
 
 
+9 # genierae 2012-02-13 14:03
It's true Regina, that they are few and far between, but there are some who are horrified at the present state of their beloved GOP. Most of the decent ones are gone, such as Chuck Hagel and George Voinovich, but there are some moderates left. I even think that Chris Christy has a little bit of sense. I just heard today that because of the current craziness in the party, 20% of Republicans are considering voting for Obama!
 
 
+12 # MainStreetMentor 2012-02-13 09:59
Very astute observation/comment, genierae. While the Republican conservative has never been interested in anything but greed, with the assimilation of the Tea Party there has risen to the the top of their delivery methods a nearly militant tactic to their quest for that avarice. There appears to be a strata of unstable mental processes being brought to bear on issues that could most certainly be resolved through negotiation and deplomacy.
 
 
-83 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-13 11:04
No need to worry, the Secret Service wil protect the President, even if he treats them like garbage, and his wife openly berates the Secret Service personnel sworn to protect them with their lives. Being black has nothing to do with Obama being hated by the correct thinking folks on the right. It is Obama's policies that are flawed and destructive. Obama is setting up a civil war between the haves and the have nots, hoping those on the dole will vote for him for more freebies so he stays in office. The result is that the takers (on welfare and other entitlements) out number and out receive from those paying taxes. Simple math, it will not sustain the Obama policy of spending when insufficient is taken in. If you think taxing the rich more will do it, you don't know simple math. There aren't enough wealthy to support the takers. Go figure? Look at the situation Greece is in, exactly the same scenario, just that the takers expect more and want it now. God Bless America, vote Obama out of office in 2012!!!
 
 
+39 # Todd Williams 2012-02-13 11:52
Ha, ha, ha! Robert, you're a real card. I love reading your posts. Keep it up, man. You're a real hoot! Thank goodness most Americans don't seriously buy into your line of thought. Not only will Obama win, but he will win big. Oh, by the way Robert, there is a civil war between and haves and havenots being set up, but Obama isn't doing it. I know which side I'm on and I'm proud of it!
 
 
+20 # Ken Hall 2012-02-13 12:29
Yeah, he should call himself Robert Owl, he's such a hoot! It is good to see his posts in a way, makes me realize that, while I might not be the brightest bulb around, at least my world view is based on fact and not Faux News innuendo.
 
 
+8 # soularddave 2012-02-13 19:47
Quoting
Yeah, he should call himself Robert Owl.


Or Robert Ostrich?
 
 
+15 # IndigoE 2012-02-13 12:45
Robert,... you poor confused soul. The war is between the "Have Everything" (the .01) and everyone else. The latter probably includes you. Its unfortunate the Republican "everyone elses" are "wish they were's" or "pretend they ares" ... but those are the ones that have no smarts either. Are you in that category??
 
 
+14 # genierae 2012-02-13 13:53
Mr. Eagle, You need to rise above all the crap that you have been told all your life and think for yourself. You and your party are the cause of all the grief and misery that so many Americans are going through right now, you nearly destroyed our country. I feel sorry for anyone who is so deluded, but I know that it's possible for you to wake up, and so I don't excuse you for your ignorance. You need to start telling yourself the truth, and keep it up until it pierces that cold, hard heart of yours. Trust me, once you open up your heart, you will no longer be a Republican.
 
 
+6 # bluevistas 2012-02-14 07:36
Please supply sources for your assertions.
 
 
+6 # Holyone 2012-02-15 04:47
Robert you are must live under a rock or just plain take to nonsense.

Many of these policies that are being put forth are the SAME policies that Republicans supported. and put on the table.

If Obama's policies are flawed, they sure are working. In spite of nuts who think people are crazy enough to beleive that you or any of the Republicans have a problem with "policy" we can read and hear and see.

The Republicans have no policy except do whatever necessary to fill the pockets of the rich.

The Republicans are working with a "Plantation" mentality and it's not just Mexicans, Blacks and other "Different" people that they intend to work on that Plantation, it is EVERYBODY who is not in the 1% .

Hopfully Obama's "flawed Polices" will continue to be "destructive" to the REPUBLICAN "Plantation" policies.

Ya'll hear now? No Mint Julips for the 99%.
 
 
+3 # genierae 2012-02-15 08:27
Amen, Holyone, keep telling it like it is!
 
 
-7 # bluepilgrim 2012-02-13 12:19
Obama is about the same, part of the same corporatist gangsters, and is destroying the nation and world.

I know who I will vote for, even though voting is mstly an empty gesture unless many people get the same idea -- I'm going to vote socialist, even if I have to write them in. It's the only really sane way to go.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/feb2012/elec-f13.shtml
Socialist Equality Party announces US election campaign
By the editorial board
13 February 2012
 
 
+1 # Todd Williams 2012-02-16 10:33
Dude, you're so '60s! Even though I disagree with your comments on Obama, I love to see a few live Socialists out there just to keep it mixed up! I recall voting for Shirley Chisolm when I was in college.
 
 
+3 # Ralph Averill 2012-02-14 01:26
I have been concerned about Obama's life since the day he was elected.
 
 
+55 # artful 2012-02-13 08:28
Republicans: the party of the severely disturbed. Newt, the delusional sociopath needs badly to be on some medication. Rick Santorum needs to go back to the future, extricating himself from the Catholicism of the 14th century. Or perhaps he should just join the College of Cardinals to help elect the replacement for the nazi pope.
 
 
+39 # Todd Williams 2012-02-13 09:11
I remember how many Rethugs were afraid of JFK's Catholisism during the election. Santorium is so much more of a vocal Papist than JFK ever was, yet nobody seems to ever want to confront him on his religious views. How come the Rethugs can lie about Obama's relgious beliefs by branding him a Muslim (and just what in the hell is wrong with that?), but if a liberal even asks a question about Catholisim or its practices, there's a huge problem with the Right. Keep religion out of politics!
 
 
0 # dorianb@fuse.net 2012-02-17 19:21
Todd, Isn't Santoriam a Christian?
Emphasis on "Fundamentalist" Christian?
You are right about keeping religion out of politics. How and why the Reublican candidates got that so wrong in 2012 is the question of our time. They appear to be proud of their misinterpretati on of the constitution. Romney saying he is "severely conservative" expresses the ridiculousness of the Republican platform which is focused on the candidates fighting over whose the most authentically conservative rather any authentic issues. It is obvious the Repugs care more about winning approval from the "Tea Party" than doing anything to help the people.
 
 
-33 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-13 12:48
Artful, amazing that you get so many positive thumbs up for calling the Pope a Nazi. The readers of this site have obviously no respect for religious leaders of any faith. Seems though that many folks on this site write about morality, yet they have no faith in God...what does that say for them? Maybe instead of the readers and writers on this site worshipping the dollar as they insist Wall Streeter do, they hate the dollar and all it brings them in comfort and sustinance. Throw away your computers, and smart phones, get rid of your wahers and dryers and refrigerators and autos because they all come from businesses that are out there to make money.Better yet, have the government buy you those items, yeah, yeah...that's the ticket. Everyone on wlefare! Everyone gets things for no work or productivity. Let's see how long that lasts!
 
 
+11 # Ken Hall 2012-02-13 20:32
Faith in god equals morality? Open your eyes, look around...
 
 
+37 # humanmancalvin 2012-02-13 08:49
Severely self serving seems more to the point. Romney recasts himself minute by minute in his "severely" desperate effort to win the nomination. Santorum ups his "severely" 14th century Spanish Inquisition religious extremism every time a camera is pointed in his direction. Gingrich extols his "severely" racist and mean-spirited platform whenever he opens his mouth. Paul spouts his "extremely" extreme extremity at every whistle stop.
President Obama seems like a breath of fresh air compared to these "extremely" unelectable clowns. Consider volunteering in your local Obama 2012 campaign office or be part of the problem that is named a republican presidency.
 
 
+27 # suzyskier 2012-02-13 09:04
I have to agree with geniera, the hatefully rhetoric coming from the right is very dangerous. I too worry about Obama's safety. When is this country ever going to grow up and realize that we are all the same under the skin??
 
 
-66 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-13 10:58
Skin has absolutely nothing to do with it. Obama's policies are ruining America. He wants to spend us into oblivion and makes no concession to stop it. He figures that the more he puts on the dole, the greater the number of votes he will get. That is a formula for the destruction of the US. If you want to be in chaos, go ahead and vote for Obama, you'll get your wish very quickly. He is out to obliterate the Constitution and doesn't care anything about who is left in it's wake of destruction.
 
 
+26 # Todd Williams 2012-02-13 11:55
Man, Robert, I wasn't sure who to vote for. But now that I've read your post, I know I'll vote for Obama. Maybe I'll even vote twice like those sneaky, vote stealing Dems are prone to do.
 
 
+13 # tclose 2012-02-13 14:40
Breathtaking how Robt. takes what most experts feel is competent management of the economy and concludes Obama is "ruining America". It's unfortunate that many other conservatives feel the same way rather than understand how the policies of the GOP candidates will be ruining them (i.e. the 99%).
 
 
+15 # jcdav 2012-02-13 14:49
YO, Hoover balanced us from recessio n to depression, FDR borrowed from the future (yeah, sounds strange, but that is what is done) to re prime the economic pump. he stopped the priming a bit early and we back slid...only to be revved up by WWII. So Public spending is how rec/dep/ressions are ended.. OR perhaps you expect the hungry to take more grief without protest? Your ignorance astounds me.... can you say "let them eat cake"?
 
 
+16 # soularddave 2012-02-13 15:37
Quoting
Skin has absolutely nothing to do with it.


Excuse me, I hate to butt in here with aome facts that are apparent to me. FIRST, the people in my "blue collar" shop who are against the President, are first and foremost against him because of his color. They don't get in to his policies a bit, but cite the Faux talking points they see on TV and use among themselves. Their points sound eerily like the ones you cite here.

SECOND, please allow me to point out that all bills involving appropriations of Government money originate in the House of Representatives - not with the President. Your insistence on how the President spends money pretty much discredits everything else you might submit for consideration here.

Oh, and from now on, I won't keep giving you a thumbs down. I'll be skipping that futile exercise, but I *might* read your amusing posts.
 
 
+10 # reiverpacific 2012-02-13 18:33
Quoting
Quoting
Skin has absolutely nothing to do with it.


Excuse me, I hate to butt in here with aome facts that are apparent to me. FIRST, the people in my "blue collar" shop who are against the President, are first and foremost against him because of his color. They don't get in to his policies a bit, but cite the Faux talking points they see on TV and use among themselves. Their points sound eerily like the ones you cite here.

SECOND, please allow me to point out that all bills involving appropriations of Government money originate in the House of Representatives - not with the President. Your insistence on how the President spends money pretty much discredits everything else you might submit for consideration here.

Oh, and from now on, I won't keep giving you a thumbs down. I'll be skipping that futile exercise, but I *might* read your amusing posts.

Bloody great comment from somebody who lives in the real world.
Thanks Bro' for both recognizing a truth-in-case: I see the same attitudes in a local "blue-collar" bar-. And for joining me in encouraging the others on this site to quit responding to the empty vessel who keeps trying to get it's "tripe" out here 'cause we are so "Liberal" and free-speech oriented.
O' wad some power the giftie gie us, to see ourselves as others see us!" Robert Burns.
 
 
+13 # suzyskier 2012-02-13 19:49
I was taling about Obamas' life not his policies, however since you mention it---you think Bush had nothing to do with what has ruined this country?? I have a funny feeling you watch Fox News to the exclusion of any other media. That is the only place where you could come up with the crack pot ideas about Obama ruining America! The chaos is from the Bush years, we are trying to recover from all the damage he and his cronies did to the ecomonmy! Get your facts straight! The dole?? give details and actual facts if you are going to toss about these accusations.
 
 
+42 # Todd Williams 2012-02-13 09:06
I doubt that the Rethugs of today even remember "moderates" like Ike and Rockefeller. I watched about 5 minutes of Santorum's speech at CPAC anf had to turn it off. I was afraid of collapsing due to a heart attack. This is saddest, most despicable and stridently annoying group of candidates that the GOP has ever put forward. I beleive their party will expire at some point. How can a middle of the road country support such radical anti-intellectuals? It's beyond me.
 
 
-59 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-13 10:54
Todd, an inteelectual would realize that you can not spend more than you take in and keep it going for very long. Under Obama we are in the hole for what, $15 Trillion? That isn't intelligent, that is down right destructive, but I suspect that is what Obama wants in any case, to destroy America from the top. Go ahead and cast your vote for the almighty Obama who has no fear of tearing apart the US Constitution. Have at it man and see what is next!
 
 
+37 # Todd Williams 2012-02-13 11:23
The Eagle rears his head! Robert, I can't believe it. What you said in your first sentence was spot on, man! "Todd, an inteelectual would realize that you can not spend more than you take in and keep it going for very long." Wow, dude. You said it! Maybe even you now realize than under Bush with his 2 illegal wars and his tax breaks for the rich, spent more than what was taken in. Obama knows it and that's why he just proposed a tax of 30% for those making over $1 million. Of course, it was over 90% under Ike and we had a strong enconomy, but who's counting, right? Robert, I'm glad to see you've finally come around to support Obama.
 
 
+8 # David Starr 2012-02-13 12:18
Balding Eagle,
An intellectual would realize you can't keep borrowing & spending w/o inevitably falling further into the quicksand of debt. Under Bush Jr., it was not only a borrowing free-for-all, the financial sector (surpassing maunufacturing in the U.S. economy) was profiting off the debt, e.g., through toxic mortgages & credit card debt (charging high interests rates tantamount to usury). But the Bush regime encouraged the public to spend, spend, spend by borrow, borrow, borrow. According to the Huffington Post (10/07/08), by Sept 2008, "the national debt broke the $10 trillion" mark. "This debt problem is getting worse. We're adding to the debt at mindboggling rates. We're spending more on interest on the national debt than we're spending on the Iraq War." Additionally, "The Congessional Budget Office project a $400 billion deficit this year [2008], a $400 billion deficit next year and the year after that, with further deficits for the next decade." But before the Bush regime, the U.S. had a federal budget surplus of $230 billion. (allpolitics.com, 9/27/00) You're not too smart when it comes to cause & effect: Obama inherited the Bush debt, although it's obviously increased, but we can thank the Bush regime for most of it; the smirking incompetant who took a surplus & turned it into debt. Re. the U.S. constitution, Bush, Cheney, etc. ushered in the overt tearing asunder of it. Obama is behaving like Bush Jr. in contributing to the tearing.
 
 
-27 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-13 14:54
David, so what you are saying is under Obama in just three years the debt went from $10T to $15T...way to go with those excellent Obama policies "under Obama's watch"!!!
 
 
+5 # David Starr 2012-02-14 11:48
Balding Eagle,
As usual, you are being very selective in metting out guilt. It's quite clear that the $10 trillion debt under Bush was passed onto Obama. But you blatantly ignore this. And the fact that Bush went from a surplus to massive debt. It has to be the biggest mismanagement of funds by any adminstration in U.S. history. It's not necessarily Obama himself you're against; it's anyone, in this case Obama, who is part of the biggest (loyal) opposition to the Repubs. Even if Reagan were currently the Dem president, you'd be demonizing him. For you, it isn't about issues or content, it's about condemning, according to the badly written script of the Right, who is the biggest "threat" to the Repubs' chances of trying to impose the mutation of a 19th century/Medieval-like agenda. So according to the script it's bash, bash, bash w/o using too much brains, brains, brains. Meanwhile, you don't really focus on the real nagatives of Obama, e.g., his "art of compromise" (i.e., caving in) & his sometimes Bush-like behavior (eg., signing the "defense" authorization act). Also, his "McDeal" w/ Wall Street/the banks where the latter will get a pass for criminal activities. But the Repubs don't mind, while publicably putting on a show of "morality" against Obama. Further, w/ the current crop of crazies, a vote for the Repubs will mean going from bad to worse. But you'll adhere to the dumbeddown script, thus being further entrenched in supporting the 1%.
 
 
+2 # humanmancalvin 2012-02-14 12:52
"inteelectual"..tee-hee.
 
 
+10 # soularddave 2012-02-13 10:01
Don't forget "severe austerity" in the context that Greek citizens have had imposed upon them. The result of which includes plenty of blow-back against the conservatives who imposed it on the citizenry.
 
 
+13 # Todd Williams 2012-02-13 11:25
Hmmmm. Rioting in the streets? Burning buildings? Is this what we face if the Rethugs continue to get their way? I wonder....
 
 
+25 # pernsey 2012-02-13 10:08
I think Mitt is trying out the Fox News method. It doesnt matter whether things are fact based, just getting enough people who dont do research to repeat it...then makes it true.
 
 
+21 # myungbluth 2012-02-13 10:34
Everyone - all together now. Pound this message every day - all the time - like Republicans do with their lies. NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN. THEY ARE NOT YOUR SIDE!
 
 
+14 # szq5777 2012-02-13 13:43
RIGHT ON!! REPUBS ARE THE ENEMY OF THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS!
 
 
-57 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-13 10:51
Krugman is no longer holding himself out as an economist. His short, three paragraph commentary is not that of an economist, it is the work of a failed journalist who no one heeds the commentary of any longer. Paul, do you really get paid for this tripe?
 
 
+31 # Todd Williams 2012-02-13 11:26
Paul is a respected economist who often gets paid for this "tripe," as you dismissively put it. Bet you don't get paid for the "tripe" you peddle on this site.
 
 
+15 # tedrey 2012-02-13 13:41
Bet you don't get paid for the "tripe" you peddle on this site.

I'll bet he does.

You notice he thinks Paul's commentary was only three paragraphs long? Turn the page, man!
 
 
+13 # Tippitc 2012-02-13 12:47
Maybe you missed the part about "read more" on the NYT website - there really is more.
 
 
+8 # suzyskier 2012-02-13 19:56
I guess you only read the portion on this website and didn't bother to check out the full commentary on the Times website.
 
 
-7 # reiverpacific 2012-02-13 10:53
But then there's our very own V.P. duhhh-what's his name again: y'know Mr F.O.M. (foot-in-mouth)??
Sorry, I'm severely (or is that "severally") political small-talk burned-out!
And feeling deplorably, dysfunctionally discombooberate d!
Anybody for some issues and substance?
 
 
+20 # tclose 2012-02-13 10:55
An excellent article by Prof. Krugman (but then again, which of them aren't?). The Repubs have boiled down their essence to these 4 candidates that are incredible to behold. It is hard to understand how the GOP could have morphed into such a strange apparition, almost from another planet, yet more likely our planet regressed about 300 years.

But don't feel too satisfied, Dems and progressives - the right wing will do anything to get rid of this competent, intelligent guy we have for a president. Time to gird our loins and join the fight - not just to re-elect Obama, but to support him by winning the House and Senate too.
 
 
+12 # reiverpacific 2012-02-13 12:03
Remember -we've established an "ignore and allow to rave unanswered" on ol' Robot Eagle?!
May he TiP ("Tripe in pustule") no answers are the best in this case.
On to issues, please.
 
 
+6 # futhark 2012-02-13 13:23
Will the self-professed "conservatives" please tell us what they advocate conserving?

Will the self-professed "liberals" please tell us what they advocate liberating?

And "progressives"...what are you progressing toward?
 
 
+6 # tclose 2012-02-13 20:39
OK, so you have some good questions, and taking you at your word that you really want them answered, I'll take a short crack at them:
- Conservs are trying to conserve the old society where upper class (and clergy) ruled, workers worked and knew their place. There are 2 kinds of conservatives: those who ARE the upper class and want to preserve that status; and those who are NOT the upper class but are hoodwinked into thinking being the underclass is good because it stands for upholding family values and such.
- Liberals are for a liberal society where people are free to speak freely, worship as they choose (or not), believe in and vote for government for the people and by the people.
- Progressives are those who see people being crushed under the heel of those in power, and work for policies that would alleviate this suffering. They are usually to be found amongst those who are of the liberal persuasion.
To which of these do you belong, futhark??
 
 
+2 # futhark 2012-02-14 08:01
Thanks tclose. I've wondered about these things for a long time. Your definitions of Conservative and Liberal hearken back to England in the early 19th century, where the landed gentry wanted to keep grain tariffs (the "Corn Laws") high in order to preserve a near-monopoly on food. Liberals opposed these tariffs because they raised the price of food, so that many less well-to-do were going hungry. I'd have to side with the Liberals in a case like this. However, presently the vaunted "Global Economy" (low or no tariffs, NAFTA, etc.) is working for the already wealthy to drive down the cost of labor, making it difficult for American workers to advance economically. So there may be a case made for some at least selective conservatism here.

Much of the confusion arises, I think, from the fact that the ideals of the American Revolution were those of Enlightenment intellectual liberals (freedom of speech, the press, religion, etc.), as enumerated in the Bill of Rights. American conservatives who really value conserving, preserving, protecting, and defending these values would have my support. Many modern day so-called "conservatives" use the Constitution and Declaration of Independence as icons worthy of veneration, but violate their substance. They are counter-revolutionary contemptible hypocrites.
 
 
+4 # futhark 2012-02-14 08:13
Continued from my previous submission.

We live in a revolutionary society. Our history books so co-mingle the War for American Independence with the American Revolution, that many people think the Revolution ended in 1783, with the war. Not so. The truths of the Revolution need to be continually advanced because there are always social elements who seek to centralize political and economic power, both of which are counter to the ideas of liberty and sovereignty of the People. We always seem to recognize the continued advancements of the Revolution retrospectively , but each progressive step has been actively opposed by counter-revolutionaries at the time. Emancipation of the slaves, female suffrage, recognition of workers' rights, the civil rights movement, and the anti-war movements are high points in the continuing American Revolution. To promote, participate in, and celebrate these contemperaneous ly is in the best American tradition and should be done by Americans who value their Revolution. We should be conserving our liberal values and traditions.

Does this make me a liberal, a conservative, or a progressive? Or maybe just an American who still believes the American Revolution ought to continue?
 
 
+5 # Sensible1 2012-02-13 13:25
Rummy is preparing for his "severely defeated" loss to Obama
 
 
+8 # bugbuster 2012-02-13 13:37
The most reprehensible thing about today's "conservatives" is that they are nothing of the kind. They are radicals.

Tragically, today's gang of rightist radicals have given conservatism a bad name for a whole generation.

The traditional and useful role of conservatives, at least it has been in my lifetime, was not to strike poses and hoodwink people, it was to act as a sober brake on the compassionate human impulse to act in the moment.

That is, when a Congress moved to help the needy loses sight of everything but that, legitimate conservatism reminds them to move carefully and don't give away the store. If you pass out too much grain today, the silo will be empty tomorrow.

Folks on both sides of the aisle respected each other within my living memory. And so, as you might expect, people would complain that they were too much alike!
 
 
+15 # szq5777 2012-02-13 13:38
I am a lifelong Democrat. I have long known that as a poor/middle-class person that the Repubs are my enemy. God forbid if one of those clowns gets into office! George W. Bush ruined this country! All our current problems were caused by REPUBS during the disasterous Bush Admisistration. How I hate that man! One Lie after another! All the wonderful progress under Clinton was wiped out before his first term was half over!Obama is just now starting to clean up the mess dispite Repug oposition at every turn. The idiot tea-party morons are holding the House hostage! I could rage on but it would not be productive. I just pray that America will come to its senses and vote those idiots out of office.
I am a retired senior on social security and a pension. God help them if they try and take it away from me!
 
 
+10 # reiverpacific 2012-02-13 15:45
Quoting
I am a lifelong Democrat. I have long known that as a poor/middle-class person that the Repubs are my enemy. God forbid if one of those clowns gets into office! George W. Bush ruined this country! All our current problems were caused by REPUBS during the disasterous Bush Admisistration. How I hate that man! One Lie after another! All the wonderful progress under Clinton was wiped out before his first term was half over!Obama is just now starting to clean up the mess dispite Repug oposition at every turn. The idiot tea-party morons are holding the House hostage! I could rage on but it would not be productive. I just pray that America will come to its senses and vote those idiots out of office.
I am a retired senior on social security and a pension. God help them if they try and take it away from me!

Yeah, me too in all cases including the latter. I watched with almost nausea at the struttin' li'l Duce-Bush glowing with health and sun-tan, making whoopee for the "First tee" charity (not a bad thing in itself) at Pebble Beach this weekend.
Instead of serving time in Abu-Grahib where he belongs for life, he is glowing with his own self-importance and golfing away to his heart's content, shaking hands with young military personnel, whose peers and predecessors he sent out do be rubbed-out or maimed for his now-admitted lies: -makes you wonder about Karma.
 
 
+10 # Patriot 2012-02-13 13:51
Kiddies, let's not lose sight of the fact that stereotyping in NEVER good. In this country, we're supposed to agree to disagree, not castigate those who disagree with us. That said.... The thing I find most appalling about the Republican Party -- ever since Bill Clinton was elected -- is their determination to gain control of the entire political system, and, apparently, to do so no matter what happens to the country in the process. They came periously close, and won more than half of the gubernatorial seats, and the seats in the House and the Senate and the White House -- twice. There still are plenty of Republican governors and a Republican-controlled House. The most serious problem on the political scene is our loss of a strong body of independent politicians. Their absence has eliminated the need for compromise; it's been SO much easier for the two parties to strive for - and achieve -- control. Independents necessitated diplomacy, deliberation and negotiation, and compromise. All of them got on with the business of governing. What we now have are two teams of bullies dragging the country back and both -- and down - between them.
 
 
+10 # reiverpacific 2012-02-13 15:38
"Patriot". Agreed about agreeing to disagree but that's not good enough for those who only want everything, as you hinted at. they'll bleat about freedom whilst abusing it it our faces, then whip it away from those who can't buy their share.
I enjoy fact and issue-linked debate but it is seem always to be one-way. I've now given up on putting this to a certain rightist who butts in here far too often and whom I've dismissed unto silence and encourage others to do the same.
I mean, try to get on a right wing outlet of any kind (I have repeatedly) and you'll see what I mean. Whereas the left or center tends to allow a certain amount of respectfully directed free speech in opposition to it's views and positions without censorship, the right shouts down or casts off any but direct adherence to it's ever-hardening stance, like dictators everywhere.
"They" are after a one-party takes all, "My way or die now" system of total control. If you think the current rapidly - merging and non-representationa l (of the people) two party set up -and I use the term "set-up" advisedly, is hard to rationalize, just let these power-drunk wannabe's get it all but have y'r passport and "refugee" status lined up first and hope you are not on a "no-fly" list.
I know that you realize this and say so -this is just my typically long-winded way of agreeing with you and reinforcing it from a perspective and example fairly close to all of here or RSN.
 
 
+9 # ozken 2012-02-13 16:07
The reason Greece is in trouble is that the better off Greeks treat paying their taxes as though it is voluntary instead of a requirement. People like Doctors, Dentists, Lawyers etc insist on being paid in cash!

The likes of Reagan or Romney, just 'buy loss making' cattle herds or park their money in the Caymens. Paying tax for the rich in America also seems to be voluntary.
 
 
+13 # wfalco 2012-02-13 17:27
Republicans are severely stupid, severely dangerous,sever ely arrogant, severely superficial, severely greedy, severely uncaring, severely bombastic, severely loud on TV, severely warmongering, and severely hateful of any dissenting viewpoint to their's.
The severity of their anger and posturing is what turns on many ignorant white people(many of whom, unfortunately are working class.) It's the old "Southern Strategy" and it works.
But what is now different from 20-30 years ago is that people are (ever so slightly) waking up. I don't think the whole angry routine is going to work this time. I am fairly severely certain of this.
 
 
+5 # stonecutter 2012-02-14 06:19
Mitt Romney: Severely Impaired.
 

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