Noam Chomsky: "Chinese leaders are unlikely to be impressed by such talk, the language of an imperial power desperately trying to cling to authority it no longer has."
Chinese premier Wen Jiabao has rejected calls for a rapid appreciation of the yuan, 10/06/10. (photo: Koji Sasahara/AP)
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This is clasic Marxist ideology - war for resource. We need pragmatic thinkers like Carter - shift from consumerism to different values like saving environment, healhtcare reform, better simple housing, transportation - be creative.
our rope is buying their crap - consumerism - people who killed on Tiananmen Square Massacre - the same party is in power - their children became the "new capitalists".
Mao may have repeated it...
I've read both articles now: where does Chomsky glorify China? He gives an exposition of the realistic power relationships at work today, but I don't see that he glorifies, or even advocates, one over another...
The rich have no country, no flag, nor are they patriotic. They feel the whole world belong to them and the poor, the sick, the ill, women and children are to be exploited with impunity to satisfy their needs.
They are the first to flee when everything goes wrong where they are living at the time. They usually take whatever riches they have or already have cash reserves in other banks in other countries just in case. A good example is Latin America when the rich in the USA sponsored their terrorist fascist regimes, all those rich left and became refugees at the expense of the USA tax paying public. They all settled in Miami, the place for the US government safe housing the facists from Latin America.
Now do see the reason why together with the Republican Party, they preferred our factories to go to other countries and not support our working class. The are the biggest threats and traitors in the USA!
Dave W. gave some great (and well documented) examples of places around the world where US actions contradicted your belief that the “History and motivation of American involvement… is to create conditions for the formation of self government”. I was just wondering if you could point to any countries, say, in the past 40-50 years where your ‘belief’ in an altruistic America actually became reality. I think almost all Americans ‘want’ your vision to be reality. The fact is, though, the actions of our government simply don’t match our desires. Let’s recognize it, and do what we can to change it!
there is an exception, but that is indeed a bit longer ago: Germany at the end of WWII. I'm German and I'll never forget my late mothers tales from our little German village during the last days of the war. She was so relieved when finally the American soldiers entered our village - black and white soldiers - and drove away the Nazis. And the American soldiers behaved perfectly correct - against women and old people. My father spent two years as an American prisoner of war - he was captured shortly before being sentenced to death by a German military tribunal for disobedience. Yes, he talked of acts of torture that happened in the prison camp, but that did not alter his basic thankfulness towards America.
Clearly: the democracy we enjoy today in Germany is an American legacy that you can be proud of.
However, the wars and atrocities that American soldiers, mercenaries and the CIA committed in the 60 years following WWII only testify to the moral decline of the USA.
Carter is a far more effective post-presidency figure than he was when he served in the White House.
China's geopolitical moves are entirely predictable and have been largely successful in advancing the long term goals of the ruling elites there. Our ruling elites appear to have no long term goals unless they are a scorched earth and a ruined nation.
It seems that you had in mind those comics from the 60's portraying latinos sleeping "La siesta"
Norm--you fail to address the pervasiveness of hatred in the society of America--the US. Americans don't like each other. How can they mobilized to find the healing way? Talk to me Norm. I respect you very much. I'm looking for healing for my people--American people.
Chomsky is revered all over the world, except in the USA. That is the reason why the nation is so confused and in turmoil. It seems that only in the USA, everybody hates everybody.
America can no longer say, "This is the way it's going to be." The U.S. doesn't have the financial power it used to, because its economy has been greatly weakened. The American government has discredited itself in its interactions with the rest of the world in the way it started its war with Iraq based on lies and false information, its mistreatment of its European allies, its continued unflinching support of Israel despite Israel's violations of international law, its torture of prisoners, and because of its hubris and blatant disregard for the opinions and desires of other nations.
I see it in a lot of places and am leary of any organization that uses it.
Do people think that we oldsters have forgotten what Hitler stood for. and all of the friends and family members that went to their deaths because of Hitler's Third World Order.
I never understood how it got on one of our paper money bills, (at the bottom of the pyramid).
I think that the same people who put that articulate paperhanger in power are now in the process of taking over the U. S. And those who support them will get the same label as Quisling. No one likes a Quisling.
Latin America is relative in peace now that the USA no longer has any real influence in the region. The Latin Americans have a saying: "When the USA starts a war somewhere else, Latin America breathes peace."
China's influence in Latin America, Africa, Europe and Asia as well has made it the world power. While China furnishes with all kinds of commodities, the USA furnishes the world with guns, guns and more guns!
Chomsky is very correct and much appreciated in the World! He is a true world's hero!
Besides, big bullies do not pick on other big bullies! They know better.
If the US stayed home a little and 'minded shop' instead of acting as international plunderer and rapist and bully, maybe there would be a little 'world order'.
Chinese state media blacked out the news and Chinese government censors blocked Nobel Prize reports, which highlighted Liu's calls for peaceful political change, from Internet websites. - no comments
and it's worked. the vast majority of the population here has no real idea of how this country conducts itself away from these shores.
south america has awakened. one day africa will too
His voice will be heard long after the USA self destruct itself by ignorance, arrogance, greed, racial hatred and hypocrisy.
With the Republican setting out in full gear using lies, deception, threats, disinformation, religious fundamental dogma, secret laundering corporate fundings, it is on the road to self destruct!
Are the neocons of America crazy enough to start some nuclear fireworks as a last ditch attempt to hold onto power, or maybe as a "take us all down" temper tantrum marking the passing of their empire? These neocons were crazy enough to blow up three buildings with two planes as an excuse to secure Iraqi oil, so I think the odds are they would be willing to take us all out rather than face the end of their brutal destructive reign.
But please note that China is just making life more expensive in America--and fueling their OWN ability to over-pollute the planet. There's been an explosion of cars in China and India. What, was America not burning off Fossil Fuels fast enough for them?
Check www.breathingearth.net and note how much MORE pollution China already puts out than America. And surprisingly, Africa!
China is what America would be if we gave up the nominal limits we still have on industry, pollution, and Government control.
Also, an earlier poster mentioned that China was largely responsible for dumping the toxins in Somalian waters that originally started their pirates--or at least gave the pirates an excuse!
Mostly the people of so-called the 3rd world used to say "Yes."
Now US citizens are afraiding their government since Bush, aren't they?
If so, what's different between US and
other so-called 3rd world?
However, what is needed from both countries, particularly at the upcoming G20 Seoul Summit, is leadership in transforming the international monetary system which underpins, as a glue in the words of monetary historian Eichengreen, the monetary, financial, economic and commercial systems. This can be done by finally adopting a monetary standard that is appropriate for the 21st century. The International Institute for Monetary Transformation has suggested a carbon-based monetary standard as part of its Tierra Fee & Dividend global governance system. Details can be found in an article written for Yale/UNITAR conference on Global Environmental Governance (September 17-9, 2010) http://conference.unitar.org/yale/environment-sustainable-development
and at the blog and documents at the Institute’s website www.timun.net .
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