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Saturday, 10 April 2010 09:09
Portrait, Robert Reich, 08/16/09. (photo: Perian Flaherty)

Portrait, Robert Reich, 08/16/09. (photo: Perian Flaherty)


Why More Immigrants Are An Answer to the Coming Boomer Entitlement Mess

was born in 1946, just when the boomer wave began. Bill Clinton was born that year, too. So was George W. So was Laura Bush. And Ken Starr (remember him?) And then, the next year, Hillary Clinton. And soon Newt Gingrich (known as "Newty" as a boy). And Cher. Why so many of us being born in 1946? Simple. My father was in World War II. He came home. My mother was waiting. Ditto for the others.

Sixty years later, we boomers have a lot to be worried about because most of us plan to retire in a few years and Social Security and Medicare are on the way to going bust. I should know because I used to be a trustee of the Social Security and Medicare trust funds. Those of you who are younger than we early boomers have even more to be worried about because if those funds go bust they won't be there when you're ready to retire.

It's already starting to happen. This year Social Security will pay out more in benefits than it receives in payroll taxes. The tipping point came sooner than anyone expected because the recession has kicked so many people off payrolls. But it was coming anyway. And it adds new urgency to reforming Social Security - a task the president's commission on the nation's debt is focusing on.

So what's the answer?

Fed Chair Ben Bernanke this week listed the choices. "To avoid large and unsustainable budget deficits," he said in a speech on Wednesday, "the nation must choose among higher taxes, modifications to entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare, less spending on everything else from education to defense, or some combination of the above."

Bernanke is almost certainly right about "some combination," but he leaves out one other possible remedy that should be included in that combination: Immigration.

You see, the biggest reason Social Security is in trouble, and Medicare as well, is because America is aging so fast. It's not just that so many boomers are retiring. It's also that seniors are living longer. And families are having fewer children.

Add it all up and the number of people who are working relative to the number who are retired keeps shrinking.

Forty years ago there were five workers for every retiree. Now there are three. Within a couple of decades, there will be only two workers per retiree. There's no way just two workers will be able or willing to pay enough payroll taxes to keep benefits flowing to every retiree.

This is where immigration comes in. Most immigrants are young because the impoverished countries they come from are demographically the opposite of rich countries. Rather than aging populations, their populations are bursting with young people.

Yes, I know: There aren't enough jobs right now even for Americans who want and need them. But once the American economy recovers, there will be. Take a long-term view and most new immigrants to the U.S. will be working for many decades.

Get it? One logical way to deal with the crisis of funding Social Security and Medicare is to have more workers per retiree, and the simplest way to do that is to allow more immigrants into the United States.

Immigration reform and entitlement reform have a lot to do with one another.

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Robert Reich is Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley. He has served in three national administrations, most recently as secretary of labor under President Bill Clinton. He has written twelve books, including "The Work of Nations," "Locked in the Cabinet," and his most recent book, "Supercapitalism." His "Marketplace" commentaries can be found on publicradio.com and iTunes.

 

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+14 # Guest 2010-04-10 10:35
What a supreme joke the comment "Once the American Economy recovers there will be plenty of jobs". The good, well paid jobs are never coming back. They are gone forever. We live in a global economy now and when others that are just as productive and educated as us are willing to work for less than half of what we want then the jobs are gone forever.
 
 
+5 # Guest 2010-04-10 11:21
Reich's idea is that more immigrants should be let into the USA has some problems.

#1 He claims immigrants are young. Work has shown that the average of immigrants is only slightly lower than the average age of the US population. As an example, my mother in law first came into the USA at age 83. Never paid into Soc.Sec but she was ready to get SS Benefits.

#2 Immigrants coming to the USA are overwhelmingly poor. Two weeks ago I sat 4 (four) feet from Alejandro Mayorkas, the director of USCIS and heard him say that he did not want to riase processing fees on immigrants (even though USCIS needs the money) as so many of them are poor. That means that many new immigrants are getting subsidized from day one. Don't plan on those people supporting you. They can't even support themselves.
 
 
+3 # Guest 2010-04-11 11:05
@ Jim: Immigrants are overwhelmingly poor when they arrive. However, the majority have great work ethics, cultures that value entrepreneurshi p and extended social systems that support education and extend credit. Government support for new immigrants typically ends in six months, and they rely on extended family and non-profit charities. An exception is health care, which should be universal anyway.
 
 
-2 # Guest 2010-04-10 12:07
There is a solution staring us in the face that all the big mouths are ignoring! It's the Fair Tax!
Not only will the Fair Tax provide the funds to rescue Social Security and Medicare; it will revive the economy and bring back most of the jobs that have fled overseas to avoid the onerous burden placed on U. S. manufacturers by the IRS and its income tax. It will also bring back to the U.S. trillions of dollars now languishing in overseas tax shelters. It will create a renaissance and a boom in this country that may result in a real need for immigrant workers!
 
 
+7 # Guest 2010-04-10 12:35
Prof. Reich is correct though a proviso is called for. Foreigners graduating from U.S institutions of higher learning (especially at the Masters and Ph.D level)should be strongly encouraged to stay here (by being given a green card) rather than being sent out of the country (where they often end up in the EU or China, contributing to our economic competitor). US immigration policy is flawed in this sense. Other easy things to be done now to "fix" Soc Sec & Medicare would be to: enact means testing for recipients; raise the FICA tax threshold, etc.
 
 
-5 # Guest 2010-04-10 12:48
Reich's blog does not even deserve the courtesy of a comment. Where are these people trying to take us (America)?
 
 
-8 # Guest 2010-04-10 12:49
John Marson is 100% correct. The FairTax is the only solution I know of to this entitlement mess, which never should have been started in the first place. The fundamental flaw in the system is pretty apparent now, isn't it?
 
 
0 # Guest 2010-04-12 11:10
A 'flaw' that doesn't appear in a program existing for 1/3 of the Republic is hardly obvious.
 
 
-1 # Guest 2010-04-10 13:20
what a solution: just add TO the ponzi scheme; don't face the fact that we spend more than we have; spread the budgets out in the sunshine and let the public see where their money comes from and where it goes; let the 48% who now pay NO taxes cough up the deficits; the voter will tell you what and where to spend.
 
 
+9 # Guest 2010-04-10 21:37
Eva, I get your drift, but I want to point out that the crisis we are in actually begins with the massive reductions on income taxes the wealthy used to have to pay. In the Eisenhower years, the income tax on the wealthies was 90%. Much of a present infrastructure was built then, such as the interstate highway system, and there were plenty of wealthy back then. We also had the strongest middle class on earth. When Reagon came into office the income tax on the wealthy was 70% and union busting, trickle down economics (what a joke) was all the rage. Shortly after the tax on wealth was reduced to approximately 36%. My point is this, those who most benefited from the "system" were taxed the highes, and were still wealthy. Our current economic malaise is precisely because the biggest beneficiaries of system paid less and less and got richer and richer, and manipulated the system such that our jobs were globalized and farmed out. Your 48% don't pay because they can't. What we can't afford the top 1%.
 
 
+6 # Guest 2010-04-11 11:23
Yes, Mr. Fletcher it all comes down to Reagan's battle cry "GREED IS GOOD". There is no hope as long as we embrace this slogan.
 
 
+1 # Guest 2010-04-12 06:08
It is disturbing that so many are so willing to fight for so few. Eva, are you one of the top 1% whose wealth is swelling? I don't think so. So few of are. Does it not strike you as obscene that 48% of us are barely getting by?
We have suffered through the worst redistribution of wealth from the work force to the executive suite and the stock holders since the robber barons of the late 1800's. So why are the working poor so willing to stand up for the bosses who are ripping them off!
It reminds me of a quote from "1776", John Dickenson, the leader of the opposition to independence said, "most men would rather hold onto the dream of being rich than face the reality of being poor..."
If you want to be conservitive then lets go back to the "Happy Days" when we taxed thoes who could afford it, we had a state of the art infrestructure and a GI bill that took care of our vets. Back when we had a swelling middle class and life was always getting better.
 
 
+11 # Guest 2010-04-10 13:35
The worry about providing for the baby-boomer retirees misses out on the fact that a lot of those of us in that generation have no pension, and no real idea how we can retire, ever. Also, a huge number of us, even those who are very well-educated, have no job and no unemployment benefits at this point. Hearing about the multi-millions paid to financial investment sorts is very bitter, and immigrants won't solve that.

There is also the simple truth that the USA is running lower and lower on water as time goes on, and the human population needs to diminish, not increase. It won't matter if someone is born here or is an immigrant if there isn't enough water for them.
 
 
+9 # Guest 2010-04-10 16:51
Jan, you're right about water being our prime worry (and of course that is largely based on continuing overpopulation) but there is some hope that it (population) is turning faster than expected. I recently spent hours studying the U.N.s population charts country by country and continent by continent, and except for Africa and Central America, population levels are generally holding or decreasing.

But water availability and control remains a huge issue. Here in California, our politicians have bought in to a new Peripheral Canal that will simplify the theft of our water by our psychopathic billionaires to be sold to the highest bidder or just stockpiled as they are doing with energy supplies. I'm already imagining fire season where our impoverished state must buy water from the monopolizers and of course cut more funding from schools and health.
 
 
+5 # Guest 2010-04-10 13:58
If all of the people who are working here illegally now were 'legal' and paying Social Security taxes, that would help, right?
 
 
+2 # Guest 2010-04-10 20:04
The illegals do pay FICA but are not entitled to benefits.
What does the FAIR tax consist of?
 
 
+19 # Guest 2010-04-10 14:08
An even simpler solution is to stop the wars. It will stop the hemorrhaging of our tax dollars into a dead end toxic investment and give us the funds to at long last rebuild our structure into green jobs, good roads, bridges, affordable housing, good schools, etc. as well as fund social programs. In addition it will stop the overwhelming load of problems that are caused by the violence of war on men and women in the military and the repercussions in their families. Which in turn will lessen the need for more medical facilities, produce more workers and at long last start to build a truly healthy society.
 
 
-1 # Guest 2010-04-11 00:52
GREAT point, Margery. Are you married?
 
 
+13 # Guest 2010-04-10 14:10
I am very sorry to see Robert Reich joining the chorus of scare-talk about Social Security. While I agree that admitting young immigrants to the country has much to recommend it, why on earth, Professor Reich, did you not mention what a difference it would make to tax all earned income the way we tax our working poor and barely middle class income earners? This could be done immediately and would have a dramatically positive impact on the health of the Social Security Trust Fund.
 
 
+3 # Guest 2010-04-11 11:14
There are no current shortfalls. Benefits are being paid by income from payroll taxes--and interest. The most recent (May 2009) official report says Social Security can pay all its benefits until 2037, when it will start dipping into reserves. Any shortfalls in Social Security can be immediately cured by lifting the lid on taxable income, currently $106,800. It is disappointing to see Prof. Reich joining the Right in such fear-mongering and mis-direction.
 
 
+18 # Guest 2010-04-10 14:37
This year's Defense Department budget is projected at about $707 billion. Last year it was $626 billion. That's more than China, Russia and the rest of the world combined spend on their militaries. And it doesn't include the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. If ten or fifteen percent of that was redirected to Medicare and Social Security, the problem would be solved with no threat to nat'l security. As a vet, I know how much wasteful spending the military does.
 
 
-1 # Guest 2010-04-11 00:54
Yes, Yes, Yes....we have the bomb, remember!
 
 
+14 # Guest 2010-04-10 14:39
Asides from the reality that we will need more immigrants to do the dogsbody work that 'real' American don't want to do anymore we should have:
1.Higher progressive taxes for the rich.
2.Higher taxes on Wall St trades and hedge fund manipulators and offshore corporative shenanigans.
3.No more useless, shameful wars. Reinstituting the draft will help.
4.Nationalize the major banks
5.Instituting universal health care which will save billions.
5.Higher retirement age (work is healthy)
 
 
+2 # Guest 2010-04-10 21:41
By jove Alan Leventhal! I think you've summed it up quite nicely! Most concise statement of excellent ideas I've seen in awhile!
 
 
+12 # Guest 2010-04-10 14:56
It's silliness to talk about Social Security "going broke," at least not for quite some number of years--and then only if outgo continues to outstrip income. The current threat is all on paper, where the federal government actually "owes" the Social Security Administration $2.5 trillion it has "borrowed" over the years. An AP story of March 14 was headlined "Social Security to start cashing Uncle Sam's IOUs." It pointed out that for decades Social Security collected more money than it paid out, billions each year. And just as regularly, it seems, this surplus has been used by the feds in lieu of more borrowing from foreign governments. In return, it issued Treasury-bond IOUs to the Social Security Administration. These bonds are kept in an office building in West Virginia. That $29 billion divides into $2.5 trillion quite a few times.
 
 
+16 # Guest 2010-04-10 15:07
A quick fix, remove the cap and have every one pay into SS.
 
 
+6 # Guest 2010-04-10 15:29
If the piece does provide something of an answer, it is only a very short term and flawed one. The US - and the rest of the worlds economies are unsustainable under the present philosophical format of greed and fear. Without fundamental economic re-thinking, fixes to sourcing retirement incomes and the plethora of other economic ills facing society are no more than sand blowing in the wind
 
 
-6 # Guest 2010-04-10 15:36
Well now, Mr. Reich, you don't mention that during the , Johnson, Carter, Clinton administrations Millions of non contributors to Social Security and Medicare were given those monies without making any payment into those accounts, even non working wives who stayed at home were given Social Security. I don't think there's a bank in the world that will give you money without you first making a deposit. The continuous free give away has caused the main collapse of these entitlement programs. PS every illegal alien in this country gets a free ride on these entitlement programs. Address their impact on these programs!!!!
 
 
+10 # Guest 2010-04-10 19:07
PS every illegal alien in this country gets a free ride on these entitlement programs. Address their impact on these programs!!!!

It's just the opposite. Those who use false Social Security numbers pay into Social Security and never get a penny in return. They add a huge amount of money to the fund that the rest of us use! In addition, all these people pay income taxes, and also they pay sales taxes when they purchase things, and property tax to landlords when they rent, or directly when they purchase a house. Would you rather ship a job overseas where no taxes or purchases go toward our economy, or at least get something from the workers who live here -- with or without papers.
 
 
+2 # Guest 2010-04-11 00:59
You wouldn't be a Repub, would you will? Lockbox? The Bush "family" wars? Get a grip.
 
 
+1 # Guest 2010-04-12 06:32
The point of the "give away" is to provide a safety net. Children who lost a parent didn't contribute either, by your logic we should abandon them to fend for themselves. And what of the home makers. Is there no value to the society that they provide? Stay at home parents are engaged parents. Children with involved parents do better in school and are better prepared to add to the community. Is there no security that the society owes such a person?
We are beating the poor over pennies while our pocket are being picked by the rich!
 
 
+9 # Guest 2010-04-10 16:15
I choose more and higher taxes on all income/gains - and at very progressive rates, along with cutting the defense budgets.

Keep people OUT of the US, and start shrinking our bloated overpopulation.
 
 
+2 # Guest 2010-04-11 01:00
Get corporate jobs back here!
 
 
+8 # Guest 2010-04-10 16:38
The easiest solution is to stop trading with countries where the average worker makes less than our average worker. If we do that, then the consumer product economy returns with its good manufacturing jobs.

The drive to cheap consumer goods and to ever larger houses in which to store them is what has done us in.

We should be able to invest more into social security in order to get more back out, instead of having to go to the equity market. Equity investing by the masses has been a huge contributor to the dissolution of the laboring middle class, because if equity driven companies feel that their primary responsibility is to stockholders, they will continue to move their businesses to the sweatshop companies in droves.

It is through this that the Chinese are beating us without weapons. Buying from Walmart damages this country more than 9/11 ever did!
 
 
+15 # Guest 2010-04-10 17:02
The cap is a stupid set-up to keep the sociopaths with the real money from supporting social programs. Not only the cap (now about $106,000) but also the limit to Social Security taxes being collected only on wages. If the real earnings of our uber-rich aristocrats were properly taxed, we would not constantly face running out of funds and stupid antics like W.s plan to privatize (and give it all to the banks in the next downturn).
 
 
+5 # Guest 2010-04-10 19:13
Immigrant workers getting paid off the books, below minimum wage, and or w/ phony IDs don't pay into SS. They won't drain it either, because so far they are ineligible.
SS was invented so old folks won't die in the county poorhouse. But the way the U.S. is regressing on social policy --- more people will be have to stay working beyond retirement like the Boomers are facing now --- the soon-to-be amnestied immigrants will be working for slave wages and not entitled to "liberal" social security dollars.
 
 
+3 # Guest 2010-04-10 19:24
When Reich talks about immigration, he's obviously talking of the legal immigrants rather than the millions of undocumented aliens already here.

Undocumented aliens do not contribute to social security since most work underground and pay no taxes whatsoever. They do send their kids to public schools and use the emergency medical facilities (that must raise their prices for the rest of us who may require medical care).

They also send most of their earnings to their impoverished families back in their country of origin, thus depriving our economy from the boost that spending money within this country would generate.

Wouldn't it be more effective and less costly for our government to simply assist other nations to develop their own economies and thus provide decent incomes for their citizens rather than export their surplus population to this particular impoverished American nation?
 
 
+5 # Guest 2010-04-11 11:21
Quoting
Wouldn't it be more effective and less costly for our government to simply assist other nations to develop their own economies...


Assistance need not mean "send money". Instead, send "new policy". One reason economies south of the border are in such disarray is US intervention, financial, political, and military. Some candidates: Close the School of the Americas, which supports dictatorships and terror campaigns. Renegotiate trade deals that cause high paying jobs here to become subsistence jobs in transit abroad. Stop our "war on drugs", which creates criminals, cash and immigrant incentives.
Most immigration should be discouraged--by discouraging unwholesome policies. Immigrants--especially illegals--ought to be seen for what they are: victims, forced into a personally wrenching, but certifiably rational choice.
 
 
+3 # Guest 2010-04-11 16:02
Bravo otter! Exactly. Our policies exploit immigrants here, it exploits them in the homelands which is why they come here, and when the illegals get here we risk being exploited. How? Our jobs are sent south where they pay peasant wages. Our social services spending is strained by these victims.

So who benefits from this nonesense? The wealthy of course, whose greed exceeds any semblence of patriotism, of course.

And yes, that criminal institution, the School of the Americas, needs to be completely destroyed.

Lastly, again you are right about the war on drugs. Massive shipments of drugs come here and massive shipments of weapons go there and everybody gets hurt. There simply is no policy sanity in the war on drugs when safe, effective and economicly sound alternatives abundantly exist.
 
 
+3 # Guest 2010-04-10 19:45
The real solution to the "problem" in this article is to get the criminals out of the government who are looting the Treasury with their Ponzi, Too Big To Fail banking scams, war profiteering and other scams (too numerous to mention here) that are not only bringing down the U.S. economy but the world economy as well. (Check out max keiser @ maxkeiser.com) Unless you get these criminals out of the government it won't matter how much cash you put into the system.
 
 
+3 # Guest 2010-04-11 04:40
Our situation is too complex for win-or-lose partisan politics to master. Unmastered, America's situation is terminal. The healthy way forward for America begins with campaign finance reform, term limits, and rules about patronage, with the purpose of gaining a legislature whose primary concern is for the survival of our republic. Choices must be made, and the consequences of those choices must be lived with.
 
 
+1 # Guest 2010-04-11 04:44
Nice crappy short term thinking. There are too many people in the world. The population must reduce or starve to death in a over heated desert. Getting over these problems must happen at some point...why not now...let's not prolong the agony...let's finance softening it by taxing the wealthy who have gotten that way by exploiting low paid immigrant labor!
 
 
+1 # Guest 2010-04-11 05:35
Still think we can "grow" our way out of our problems? And what of the less advantaged states who see their best and brightest poached by the US? This is already shaping up to be a real tough century for these most vulnerable nations and they're already pointing fingers at the industrialized West. Maybe it's not such a great idea to poke them in the other eye.
 
 
0 # Guest 2010-04-11 10:18
I disagree with Dr Reich, though it is a rarity. It is not immigrants that will pay for future entitlements, it is JOBS. And those are better filled by Americans that have families to support.

Jack Lohman
http://MoneyedPoliticians.net
 
 
-2 # Guest 2010-04-11 10:54
Jack & others are totally correct: Americans workers need good-paying jobs, not amnesty for illegal immigrants as Reich suggests! Low-paying jobs (the magnet for illegal immigrans) will contribute in many ways to our economic demise.
Legalize more immigrants as our economic salvation? Tell it to the millions of U.S. high school and college grads who have only low-wage service jobs available to them.
 
 
+1 # Guest 2010-04-11 13:16
the only way this could possibly work is if those immigrants are taxed but either don't stay long enough or collect at a diminished rate, and/or are taxed at a higher rate than native-born americans. we could lift that burden off the immigrnats' children who are born here, as they would be born full citizens. this scenario would still allow immigrants to do the american thing and improve their situation without making ours worse. otherwise, it creates another retiree boom down the road and screws the current working young even more.
 
 
+1 # Guest 2010-04-11 15:39
This does seem to be a rare miss for Reich. What happens when all the immigrants get old? Better to use a combination of Bernanke's suggestions (to which I would add, let's face it, borrowing more money), and ride out the old-age boom. After the baby boomers pass on and our population is stable, we'll be glad we did. Or our grandchildren will anyway.
 
 
+1 # Guest 2010-04-11 15:41
We need to encourage high quality immigration. Importing poverty is a near-sighted answer to a long term problem.
 
 
0 # Guest 2010-04-11 19:22
The last thing we need is more population in this country --or any other. Enough that we're all breeding like rats, but no matter how many we take in, we'll never make a dent in other nation's overpopulation problem while we devastate our own nation. Poverty, pollution, shortages of natural resources from food to oil to mineral ores, etc. all are the product of overpopulation. A few countries, such as in Scandinavia, have managed to arrest population growth, and they're doing just fine, thank you. Our social safety net is less strained by an aging population than a burgeoning young population, which is much more likely to need welfare, food stamps, police intervention, drug and alcohol rehabilitation, etc. Lift the cap on SS contributions. Besides, the whole "SS is about to crash" scenario is bogus. About the time SS is "projected" to go down the tubes, the baby boomers will almost all be dead, so the actuarial integrity will be restored anyway.
 
 
0 # Guest 2010-04-12 06:31
Well, we do need population growth to keep the economy growing, and we are not producing enough to replace our own elderly. Otherwise the young ones are going to have to contribute even higher to their parents retirement years.

But I agree with Brynn that we need a higher quality immigration, and not just those slipping over the border for a better life.

Jack Lohman
 
 
0 # Guest 2010-04-12 05:57
Many good solutions here to raise revenue. My favorites are to reduce military spending and raise taxes on the wealthy, such as taxing sales of stock. But everybody assumes the baby boomers are going to live as long as their parents. Looking around me at my fellow boomers, I wonder about that. We've got a lot of unhealthy habits. Obesity is probably the worst. That would alter the Social Security picture.
 
 
0 # Guest 2010-04-12 11:38
I agree that we need to welcome immigrants into the country. We need to chop the Pentagon budget and lift the cap on SS taxes. It will still be true that fewer workers will be supporting more retirees, but an overlooked fact is that each of these workers will be vastly more productive than workers were in the past. But of course Wall Street wants to keep that huge surplus for itself. Our job is to see that it goes to workers, both active and retired.
 
 
0 # Guest 2010-04-12 12:47
Jack Lohman,

Your point (and Reich's) that continued population growth is good and necessary for our way of life is the one I have a hard time with. If it's really true that our way of life depends on having more people to replace us when we die (and not just the same number, but real population growth) then aren't humans doomed within a few generations, when we physically run out of space and food?

I am sympathetic to immigrants and to other arguments for letting them in, but to let them in just to pay for our SS benefits seems really short-sighted. They will in turn need yet more people to pay for theirs. To me it seems better to let the population explosion tail off. We would deal with the ensuing budgetary problems by borrowing, raising taxes, and limiting benefits. That's of course painful, too, but from my non-expert point of view, it's less painful to have the buck stop at our generation than to saddle the next with the burden of coming up with more people.
 
 
0 # Guest 2010-04-12 14:50
We don't "have" to do anything John. If population grows the entitlement costs get spread over a larger number of people. If it shrinks either the entitlements shrink or taxes go up. It is what it is, though if we have control over who we allow to immigrate it ought to be doctors and scientists.
 
 
0 # Guest 2010-04-15 11:25
I spend some time on some conservative boards and it is like a horrible echo chamber in there...so nice to see some give and take without vitreol. I believe there are some very heavy lifestyle changes in store for Americans and that denial of these is the source of much political distress. In the end it will be a thousand little things in millions of American families that will see the whole thing through. If our government is "We The People" then there is your answer.
 

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