Taibbi writes: "The most interesting part of seeing these guys up close is seeing the way people like Rick Santorum and Gingrich respond to Romney in person: They appear to find him physically repulsive, their noses even scrunching up at him when they address him, like cops opening up a trunk with a body in it."
Matt Taibbi at Skylight Studio in New York, 10/27/10. (photo: Neilson Barnard/Getty Images)
Romney Bombs, and Other Thoughts on the GOP Debate
20 January 12
have an article about South Carolina and the GOP race coming out in Rolling Stone soon, so I can't say too much about that race here. But I do have a few quick notes about last night's debate in Charleston, which I had the misfortune to attend.
• I was astonished to wake up this morning and read, in this morning's Wall Street Journal, this assessment of Romney's performance: "Mitt Romney turned in one of his strongest debate performances, defending his business record and laying into President Barack Obama as aggressively as he has in any previous debate."
I don't know Journal writers Patrick O'Connor or Neil King, so I can't say for sure if they were there last night, but if they were, were they watching the same event as the rest of us? I thought Romney was a disaster and last night very nearly achieved the impossible: sharing a stage with Newt Gingrich and looking like the bigger asshole.
To me, the exchange where he fell overboard mid-answer and had to ask moderator John King what the question was ("But you asked me an entirely different question?") came close to being an Ed Muskie moment.
The most interesting part of seeing these guys up close is seeing the way people like Rick Santorum and Gingrich respond to Romney in person: They appear to find him physically repulsive, their noses even scrunching up at him when they address him, like cops opening up a trunk with a body in it. And I think it's real, I don't think it's an act. Romney is so totally insincere and calculating and soulless, it physically offends other politicians. It's incredible to watch.
• I've given up trying to predict this race. Watching the events of last night, I saw plausible nomination scenarios for all four candidates. Don't forget that if the merry-go-round of incompetence continues much longer - if Romney and Newt and Santorum keep hot-potatoing frontrunner status and primary victories - Ron Paul is going to waltz into the convention with a mass of delegates and a legit argument that he was the strongest and most consistent candidate.
• Standing next to the bloodless corporate cipher Mitt Romney and the pompous, bloviating egomaniac Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum - creepy religious lunatic Rick Santorum! - came off like Clarence Darrow breaking up a Klan rally. "Rick Santorum, en fuego!" cracked one of the reporters in the media room, during Santorum's tirade about Newt's "grandiosity."
• After the revolution comes and the Show Trial/Firing Squad period of our history begins, someone from CNN is going to have to answer some very tough questions about "Kevin," the cheesy guy the network brought onstage before the debate to warm up the crowd and introduce John King. Casual viewers at home did not have to see this performance, so I won't share anything about it here, but if anyone among the press or the audience from last night has an explanation for me about that whole business, please write to me and let me know, because I'm very confused.
Anyway, I have to get back on the road to a Mitt rally. More later ...
P.S. I'm giving away a hi-res "Starve The Squid" poster to the reader who comes closest to calling tomorrow night's election results. I'm guessing:
Gingrich 31
Romney 23
Santorum 23
Paul 23
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My own guess on actual votes: Paul, 17%; Gingrich 8%, Romney 4%, Santorum 5%; Nixon 7%, George Bush 3%, Jeb Bush 3%, Prescott Bush 3%, John Yoo 2%, None of the above 48%.
Only one GOP candidate has an IQ higher than room temperature, and his economic policies are screwy. What a circus.
NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN !!
our livelihoods and future is at stake
(to be continued)
I suppose this is all you can expect from a party that has totally left reality behind, spouting economic theories that were disproven years ago, raving about the wonders of private health insurance for profit, when every other developed country in the world has figured out that a single payer system is far more efficient, delivering better health care to more people for less money. I mean the Tea Bagger Boggle has rotted the minds of the gullible public so thoroughly that the spectacle has become a running proof of how incredibly lousy the US education system has become. Only a large segment of the public utterly lacking in the basic facts of history or logical thought could be duped by such nonsense - and the leaders keep pushing more of the junk around in the Senate and the House. This is not a proud moment in US history. One hopes that somehow enough people wake up between now and November to elect some sane Representatives and Senators. If we give Obama a Congress he can actually work with, we might be able to survive. Elisabeth Warren is a bright light showing the way. Come on folks, get real. We have to get the evil clowns out of government. Never vote for a Teabag.
NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN !!
our future is at stake
Romney 28%
Gingrich 23%
Paul 23%
Santorum 18%
Colbert 8%
My prediction for November:
Obama 1%
Romney 1%
Paul 1%
That's a really good idea. They should have "none of the above" as an option in the other primaries where the ballot may not have been printed yet. I bet None would win.
I'll never, ever vote for another rethug in my lifetime, but am old enuf to have lived thru a few decent ones, like Chuck Hagel, who had the common sense to leave politics. Hard pressed to think of another good one tho, even tho there must have been more than one. Evert Dirksen maybe, I think he was rethug.
But he is assuming way to much intelligence on the part of South Carolina Republicans.
Gingrich 25
Romney 24
Santorum 28
Paul 23
If the GOP pulls this sort of shit on their own candidates, just imagine what we're likely to see in the 2012 elections? That's over and above all the voter suppression tactics already in play before our very eyes.
A much more elegant way of saying he's the most phony person I've ever seen. He makes me gag. From "Corporations are people my friend" ( I ain't your friend you asshole.) to "I asked my wife if I should run for president and she said 'Do you think you can save America?' I said 'Yes' and she said 'Then you should do it'". Give me a break! *urk*, excuse me, I think I'm going to vomit.
Polly Andry 17
Ophelia Pulse 16
Eddi Pouskom Plecks 10
Etta Hogg 10
Lena Daze 9
and Huey, Dewey, & Louie bring up the rear.
I just wish I cared which of the idiots the Publicans choose. If this is the best they've got, it's a sad day for the Republic.
[Whenever Obama says something good (which is actually quite often), I shudder--because I can be fairly sure that whatever he is going to do, it's not going to be THAT.] By reason of Gingrich's pomposity, I don't think there is any circumstance that could lead me to vote for him. Sanctimony of presence makes Santorum impossible. As for Romney, he tells lies as a kind of trademark of his style, but--perhaps because of his Mormonism (as with Nixon's Quakerism)he has no gift for it at all. This leaves Ron Paul. Unlike Obama, Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum, Ron Paul actually believes in something. Some of it is quite strange. But one of his ideas amid the general strangeness is that we should stop going into other countries and killing people. The other four believe quite the opposite. I am just strange enough to think Ron Paul is right on this point; and I think I will probably vote for him in November.
On a softer note, I could never in a million years vote for Ron Paul because of all of his "strange beliefs," as you put it. Although his stands on war and the size of the military budget are admirable, there is hardly anything else admirable about his views and, in fact, the rest of his views on nearly everything are down right detestable!
You ought to credit him also with his gutsy positions on the Patriot Act, restoring the Bill of Rights, and nailing the banking crooks and the fed. He's the ONLY candidate who's right on these things, including Obama. Yes, his economic ideas are on the fritz but when you consider how crazy the rest of these clowns are, Paul looks pretty good to me.
One major problem is failing to understand that education is the foundation of our society, and that we must never cut back on the quality of the educational system. Sadly, this priority is not understood, and we have allowed the US educational system to be degraded horribly. Somehow we have decided in many areas that low taxes are more important than good education. There couldn't be a worse mistake. If the average citizen can not and does not understand issues and logic and economic reality, the society is doomed. The whole Teabagger madness is based on ignorance. We need to re-elect Obama and elect a Congress he can work with, and seize the opportunity to reestablish education as the vitally important part of our infrastructure that it is.
(to be continued)
I went to High School in California, graduating in 1956. That period was a golden age for education in California. Now the state has allowed that resource to be chopped into bits. I took Latin in my freshman and sophomore years, had good science courses, and a lot of excellent teachers who were proud of their work and demanded that the students paid attention. It was a real educational experience, and I am eternally grateful for it. We must rebuild our society so that kind of educational experience is universal. It will give our society a whole new enthusiasm and feeling of community if we express and share that goal.
It's all about Congress in 2012!
I'd love to see the ghost of William F. Buckley as "moderator" of this sorry lot. I didn't agree with him much but I respected his ability to put his views across and he had a wickedly sly sense of humor and a touch of class. He was "conservative" rather than a "Reactionary" which is now the norm.
"Conservatives" had voices of reason and balance and there must still be some out there but they are drowned out by the hate-mongers, pseudo-theocrats and medievalists who would enslave us all and destroy the very planet we live on rather than be in any way reasonable evolutionary or progressive.
Perhaps that ol' flatulence in human form Rush Limp-blech will step in and point at one of 'em: end of story, beginning of "Running for -what was that again"?
Santorum 27
Romney 23%
Paul 19%
Cain 2%
Remember, he's still on the ballot and some folks just might not know he's not running anymore!
As for the debate, who can write it better than Matt Taibbi? I love this guy; he captures the surrealism of the whole sordid carnival; this risible mess is only a couple of tonal rungs above Tyrone Power's film noir gem "Nightmare Alley". Newt calling the media "despicable"? Pot, kettle; keetle, pot...blah,blah,blah, blah. LMAO.
My own prediction about the SC outcome: who gives a shit? Truth is if they keep lurching down this road, David Patraeus could bypass the whole primary grind and step up at the right moment just before their convention to "save the party" from sure defeat and probable oblivion. He'd have that old Eisenhower glow around him, a true throwback candidate, and suck the wind outta Romney's sails faster than Newt can swallow a Triple Whopper at BK. That's my conditional prediction; IF it happened, Obama would have himself a horse race. What was the deal for the CIA gig?
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/161/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=9208
PS a candidate more loathsome than gingrich with his promotion of covert actions and deniability that sums up his lack of integrity in every sphere? NOT EVEN POSSIBLE!
They're all dead, or might as well be. If Lowell Weicker, a strong GOP voice in the Senate Watergate investigation and hearings, was still a player (he's 81 and long since out of the picture), he'd probably be metaphorically stoned to death in the public square by the current GOP lunnies. Same goes for John Danforth from Missouri. Guys like Mark Hatfield or Jake Javits have long since faded away.
We're left with the rotting carcass of their former rational, responsible, inclusive party.
Newton Gingrich - 36%
Richard Santorum - 17%
Ronald Paul - 8%
(Nicknames or middle names for The Chief Wannabe shouldn't be permitted. )
All of that said, I wanna win the damn poster. So I'm saying:
Romney 32
Gingrich 28
Paul 24
Santorum 16
My 2 cents.
Then comes a cuddly bully called Newt,
Next is Goody Two Shoes,
And old Howard Hughes,
What a stange assortment of fruit.
There's no such thing as an 'objective, bipartisan moderate,' and we don't need that anyhow. 'Moderates' would continue the same policies of Bush and Obama which got us into and sustains this mess: foreign policy adventures and kissing the ass of big business and bankers at home.
Unless we get money out of politics, we'll never make it.
Gingrich 35 %
Romney 30
Paul 21
Santorum 14
Oh well, mine was wrong anyway. Gingrich won. The repug party is really coming unglued.
I still predict 1% for Obama, Romney and paul in November. I think it will be the same 1%. They can share it.
Just for your info Mitt, the next insurance company, if you can get them to insure you, will be no better than the last, charging you more to give you less. Wake up and smell the coffee!!!
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