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Intro: "American neocons have moved the United States closer to war with Iran via a subtle change in the 'red line' phrasing, inserting the word 'capability' after the usual threats to take out an Iranian 'nuclear weapon.' Now, Sen. Joe Lieberman is making the shift official, reports Robert Parry."

Sen. Joe Lieberman is leading a group of nearly one-third of the U.S. Senate urging that the red line on war with Iran be shifted from building a nuclear weapon to the vague notion of Iran having the 'capability' to build one. (photo: AP)
Sen. Joe Lieberman is leading a group of nearly one-third of the U.S. Senate urging that the red line on war with Iran be shifted from building a nuclear weapon to the vague notion of Iran having the 'capability' to build one. (photo: AP)



Lieberman Edges US to War With Iran

By Robert Parry, Consortium News

20 February 12

 

en. Joe Lieberman is leading a group of nearly one-third of the U.S. Senate urging that the red line on war with Iran be shifted from building a nuclear weapon to the vague notion of Iran having the "capability" to build one. The neoconservative senator from Connecticut has introduced a "Sense of the Senate" resolution that would put the body on record as rejecting a situation that arguably already exists, in which Iran has the know-how to build a bomb even if it has no intention to do so.

The resolution tracks with the positions of hardline Israeli leaders, such as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and undercuts the position of President Barack Obama, whose administration has been exploring ways to negotiate an agreement with Iran, which insists that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only.

U.S. and Israeli intelligence agencies also agree that Iran has NOT decided to build a bomb. [See Consortiumnews.com's ""US/Israel: Iran NOT Building Nukes."] However, in recent weeks, the goal posts have been subtly moved not only by American neocons and Israeli hardliners but by the major U.S. news media, which has inserted the new weasel word "capability" in mentions about of Iran's supposed nuclear weapons ambitions.

Of course, many consumers of U.S. news haven't noticed this slight change in wording from Iran's alleged "pursuit of a nuclear weapon" to its alleged "pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability." But the distinction is important because a "capability" can mean almost anything, since peaceful nuclear research also can be applicable to bomb building.

To deny Iran the "capability" would almost surely require a war between the United States and Iran, a course that some neocons have been quietly desiring for at least the past decade when the Iraq invasion was seen as a first step to bringing "regime change" to Iran - or as some neocons joked at the time, "real men go to Tehran."

Indeed, the massive U.S. Embassy in Baghdad - which now sits increasingly idle - can be best understood as the intended imperial command center for a new American dominance of the region. But those neocon plans were spoiled by the disastrous turn of the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq and ultimately America's forced military withdrawal from the country at the end of 2011.

A Neocon Comeback

Since the grim writing was on the wall about the Iraq outcome, American neocons have been looking for new ways to get their imperial agenda back on track, with Iran's nuclear program just the latest opportunity.

So, Iranian efforts to negotiate confidence-building initiatives regarding its nuclear program, such as agreeing to a Turkish-Brazilian plan in 2010 to trade about half of Iran's low-enriched uranium for radioactive isotopes needed for medical research, have been blocked by neocons in Congress and their allies in the Obama administration, with the support of key U.S. media outlets, like the Washington Post and New York Times.

The latest shift toward forcing a new war has centered on the insertion of the word "capability" after the words "nuclear weapons." The Obama administration has indicated that it would consider an Iranian decision to build a nuclear bomb a "red line," suggesting the possibility of a military strike at that point.

However, that threat isn't making the neocons happy because the U.S. intelligence community is standing by its 2007 conclusion that Iran halted work on a nuclear bomb in 2003 and hasn't resumed that effort. Israeli intelligence apparently has reached the same judgment. Both U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak have referenced this state-of-play in the intelligence assessments in recent public remarks, as ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern has reported.

So, what are the hawks in Israel and the United States to do? Their new sleight-of-hand has been to quietly shift the terms of reference, arguing that it doesn't matter whether Iran is actually working on a bomb but that it must be denied even the "capability" to work on a bomb. That is the point of Lieberman's resolution.

Lieberman's Allies

In a statement at his Web site, the senator announced that 32 senators - both Republicans and Democrats - have banded together to introduce a resolution urging action to prevent Iran from pushing "forward in its pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability. … By rejecting any policy that would rely on containment of a nuclear-weapons capable Iran, this bi-partisan resolution sends a clear message to Iran's rulers that the United States will stop them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability."

In other words, the next preemptive war could be launched not against Iran for actually building a bomb or even trying to build a bomb but rather for simply having the skills that theoretically could be used sometime in the future to build a bomb. The "red line" has been moved from some possible future development to arguably what already exists.

Lieberman is co-sponsoring the resolution with Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) and Bob Casey (D-Pennsylvania), with support from Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), Barbara Mikulski (D-Maryland), John McCain (R-Arizona), Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-Texas), Jim Inhofe (R-Oklahoma), Ron Wyden (D-Oregon), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Chuck Schumer (D-New York), Bill Nelson (D-Florida), Ben Nelson (D-Nebraska) Saxby Chambliss (R-Georgia), John Cornyn (R-Texas), Mark Pryor (D-Arkansas), Bob Menendez (D-New Jersey), Ben Cardin (D-Maryland), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Claire McCaskill (D-Missouri), Mark Udall (D-Colorado), Jim Risch (R-Idaho), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-New York), Scott Brown (R-Massachusetts), Chris Coons (D-Delaware), Dan Coats (R-Indiana), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), John Boozman (R-Arizona), John Hoeven (R-North Dakota), Richard Blumenthal (D-Connecticut), Kelly Ayotte (R-New Hampshire), Dean Heller (R-Nevada).

That group amounts to nearly one-third of the 100-member U.S. Senate.


For more on related topics, see Robert Parry's "Lost History," "Secrecy & Privilege" and "Neck Deep," now available in a three-book set for the discount price of only $29. For details, click here.

Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, "Neck Deep: The Disastrous Presidency of George W. Bush," was written with two of his sons, Sam and Nat, and can be ordered at neckdeepbook.com. His two previous books, "Secrecy & Privilege: The Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq" and "Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth'" are also available there.

 

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+77 # Holyone 2012-02-20 08:03
This is another Israeli controled Jew who does not care about the interest of the USA. Lieberman is a very sad excuse for a person who is suppose to represent the American people rather than the paranoia and Zionism of the entire Middle East by Israel.

There needs to be a recall of Lieberman because he is not an Independent but an Israeli operative.
 
 
+43 # Terrapin 2012-02-20 10:09
THANK YOU for saying it for me! Lieberman is a Zionist / AIPAC operative infiltrating Congress.
 
 
+40 # MidwestTom 2012-02-20 08:22
I would like to start a fund whose only objective is to defeat these twelve war hungry Senators. I don't know, but I would bet that Lieberman holds an Israeli Citizenship.
 
 
+42 # RLF 2012-02-20 08:50
Lieberman strikes again. You can caount on this a hole to always do the right wing thing.
 
 
+38 # cokacoa2 2012-02-20 09:24
The facts that come out here so clearly is our country's imperial intentions to control the middle east oil at any and all costs. America says we are all about spreading democracy but most of us know nothing could be less true. Sooner or later we are going to have wake up to the necessity of living with the other people on our planet and that is going to be painful because we will have to change our way of life but no matter how many people we kill and no matter how much treasure we waste this is inevitable.
 
 
+37 # Archie1954 2012-02-20 09:30
I wonder if the good people of Connecticut realize what their senator is doing to them and the country? He is treacherous and would gladly put in place conditions that could well destroy the American economy for many, many years, raise the price of petroleum products to unheard of levels, increase the national debt and cost the lives of an unknown number of American soldiers. Now tell me he isn't a traitor and he isn't acting in the best interests of a foreign state rather than the US.
 
 
+36 # Paul Larudee 2012-02-20 09:33
By Lieberman's logic, we (or perhaps Israel) should attack Switzerland and destroy its nuclear weapons capability. I dare say they could buid a nuclear weapon in six months or less.

Other countries include Brazil, South Africa, Sweden, Australia, Canada, and many more. Perhaps they should ll be attacked to prevent or destroy their nuclear weapons capability.

I guess it's too late for North Korea, Pakistan and India, since they already have the weapon. Perhaps we erred by not attacking them earlier and now we can't. I wonder why they wanted such weapons.

What about Israel? They don't admit to having nuclear weapons, so perhaps we should attack them before they develop the capability.
 
 
+10 # in deo veritas 2012-02-20 15:11
Of course Israel has nukes. If the Zionist traitor Lieberman gets his way there will be a thermonuclear war.If Gore and this lunatic had gotten elected in 2000 we would likely be in as bad as mess as were were thanks to war criminals Bush and Cheney. Why does it always come down to "the lesser of two evils"? Is there never a "good" choice?
 
 
+38 # motamanx 2012-02-20 10:08
A great reason NOT to got to war with Iran is that Sen Lieberman wants to. He has been wrong about--let's face it--everything.
 
 
-14 # Regina 2012-02-20 10:35
We don't need the anti-Semites crawling in here with their anti-Jewish smears. There are plenty of grounds for opposing the neocons' thirst for wars other than religious biases. We're still paying for their past adventures in Iraq and the continuing one in Afghanistan, whose regime was not responsible for 9/11 -- the culprits were Saudis living in Afghanistan. Maybe we're lucky that the oil-cartel didn't decide to attack Saudi Arabia too! There is still a lineup of countries dedicated to "wiping Israel off the map" and we don't need Americans singing their refrain. Lieberman is a reprehensible fool, but that's not because he's Jewish.
 
 
+25 # Glen 2012-02-20 11:32
Regina, just as there are good Muslims and good Christians, there are good Jews. Also, there are some pretty terrible groups in all three religions. It is the former that most folks are speaking out about when discussing Israel or those Jews within the U.S. government that have far too much influence over the U.S. government.

Most Americans really aren't aware of the actions of the Mossad and the Zionists. Those who are aware are protesting what they have done, do, and are going to do again. That is the world we live in.
 
 
+37 # Todd Williams 2012-02-20 12:23
You're right, Regina. I don't dislike Lieberman because he's a Jew, I just think he's a rat fink, neocon, pig. If he were Catholic or Protestant or Muslim, I'd feel the same way. He wants to drag us into a war with Iran. That's very, very dangerous.
 
 
+19 # abdullahiedward 2012-02-20 14:18
If your opinion of Liebermn is such as you say then why do you choose to join him in repeating the irroneous mantra of he and his fellow right wing, neo-con warmongering AIPAC sponsored idiots eho have spent the past six years trying to convince you that Ahmadenijad said something that he DID NOT SAY!!! Check it out Regina. It has been proven by far more informed people than I.
 
 
+15 # abdullahiedward 2012-02-20 14:58
Lieberman should be un-elected before he hurts somebody!
 
 
+5 # barbaratodish 2012-02-20 15:44
Quoting
We don't need the anti-Semites crawling in here with their anti-Jewish smears. There are plenty of grounds for opposing the neocons' thirst for wars other than religious biases. We're still paying for their past adventures in Iraq and the continuing one in Afghanistan, whose regime was not responsible for 9/11 -- the culprits were Saudis living in Afghanistan. Maybe we're lucky that the oil-cartel didn't decide to attack Saudi Arabia too! There is still a lineup of countries dedicated to "wiping Israel off the map" and we don't need Americans singing their refrain. Lieberman is a reprehensible fool, but that's not because he's Jewish.

Lennon sang:
Imagine there are no countries
It's possible to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living for today"
Let's exchange, or better yet, TRANSCEND identity of country, race, ethnicity, gender, class and let's SYMBOLICALLY "wipe" all country names off the globe and call ourselves by 1 name: love
We need to convince everyone that they ARE love (perhaps hate is un-identified love? Perhaps hate is just uninterpreted potential love? Perhaps hate is obnoxiousness taken too seriously, when the obnoxiousness can and needs to be reflexively projected back at any hate detector?) Ego and drama limits the love that we all are.
 
 
+10 # cadan 2012-02-20 16:10
In fact one more reason our imperial policy is so self-destructive is that not only are we generating enemies around the world, we are also generating divisions (which may grow and grow) amongst ourselves.

The empire will fall for sure, because we are overreaching to such an extreme (thanks to Bush, and to Lieberman, who at least should have known better).

So we won't keep the Arabs and Muslims beaten down forever, no more than the first crusades did.

But a lot of the hatred will remain.

Please, let's disengage from the empire business.
 
 
+6 # Archie1954 2012-02-20 18:37
Judaism has absolutely no part in the current mess in the Middle East but Zionism definitely does. The Zionists are responsible and are at the heart of the matter but they are not who you think they are. There are only 3 or 4 million Jews in Israel while Zionists can be counted in the tens of millions. These are Christians, Jews and numerous others who become wealthy exporting violence to various parts of the world specifically the Middle East because it is already a tinder keg.
 
 
+28 # Smiley 2012-02-20 10:36
How many wars can the American peop0le be lied into before they wake up? Israel's nukes are a far greater threat to the peace and stability of the world than Iran's "capabiity"!
 
 
+27 # seeuingoa 2012-02-20 10:51
reply to Cokacoa 2: "America is all
about spreading democracy"

How can a fascistic police state spread
democracy?

F.D.Roosevelt (1938) in a message to congress said it most clearly:

"The liberty of a democracy is in danger
if the people tolerate the growth of private powers (corporations, Adelson,
AIPAC etc) to a point where it becomes
stronger than the democratic state itself.
That in it´s essence is fascism."
 
 
+28 # seeuingoa 2012-02-20 11:05
Smiley: "How many wars can the American
people be lied into before they wake up?"

Many more!

The majority of the American people
are mentally as complacent as an elderly senile person fed by a media that is
equally complacent.

How can it be otherwise when you have
so few investigative journalists writing
mainly in alternative media, that the
majority of the American people never
read?
 
 
+22 # Todd Williams 2012-02-20 12:25
Oh, I think Americans are waking up to the bullshit. Look at the polls regarding Iraq and Afghanistan (and even Iran). People are fed up with war.
 
 
0 # spiritcallsus 2012-02-20 11:21
What this world needs to do is wake up to the centuries of intent by certain interests as laid out in the banned book of Douglas Reed; The Controversy of Zion ... availible on PDF via:
http://www.controversyofzion.info/Controversybook/reeedcontrov_chap.pdf
 
 
+16 # WFO 2012-02-20 11:27
Lieberman is a traitor within. The highest levels of power in this country are all on the same page.

The constant drone of propaganda tells us the opposite of what our eyes can see.

We are a failed nation, sabotaged and cowardly. In retrospect, it is pretty amazing the way evil could destroy people's minds, where mass murder has become almost something we can tune out- even rationalize!

One person can poison the well - and a group of people can destroy a nation.
 
 
+3 # Todd Williams 2012-02-20 12:42
Oh, I think that's taking it a bit far, don't you? Americans aren't all that evil. Lieberman is a jerk for sure. And we are misguided perhaps. Unaware perhaps. Easily led perhaps. But I still don't hate our country enough to feel the way you do, WFO. If I did, I'd probably just move on down to Costa Rica. I'm still an optimist. I know this'll garner negatives because I don't hate Isreal and Jews, but I can deal with it.
 
 
+8 # WFO 2012-02-20 14:02
Quoting
Oh, I think that's taking it a bit far, don't you? Americans aren't all that evil. Lieberman is a jerk for sure. And we are misguided perhaps. Unaware perhaps. Easily led perhaps. But I still don't hate our country enough to feel the way you do, WFO. If I did, I'd probably just move on down to Costa Rica. I'm still an optimist. I know this'll garner negatives because I don't hate Isreal and Jews, but I can deal with it.


I don't hate anyone of good will and I don't hate our country, but I recognize what is going on and who is engineering it - Mr Lieberman et al, case in point.

When good people can do nothing, because of overwhelming force and the willingness of those with the power to commit any and all atrocities, their is not much hope.

The last 10 years have accelerated the takeover and it appears comprehensive. What can be done? Vote :]
 
 
+14 # Raymond Dean 2012-02-20 11:46
Joe Lieberman is willing like all the Israeli x Ambassadors to spend US blood and treasure without limit to further the eye-for-an eye philosophy of Israel.

I shudder at the concept that we can have one or two carrier battle groups in the very restricted (including choke points) space of the Gulf and not suffer damage or loss of a carrier. The Iranian threat is comprised of considerable capability including subs, nuclear & diesel,missle boats by the swarm,and an array of land based missiles. Then there is the capacity in the air. On land the country is large with a central elevated plateau bordered by three mountain ranges, a population a multiple of Iraq, a considerable nurtured military, and a populace that has never known colonization and only a short period of occupation during WWII as a path for supply to the Russian front.

I personally have experienced the fact that Iranians are Byzantine in their dealings which means they do not reveal their hand until a game is ready to be played.
 
 
+1 # Todd Williams 2012-02-20 12:46
I assume the Iranians will kick our asses all over the Persian Gulf when we go to war with them (don't you all think this in inevitable?). They'll probably wipe out Israel as well. I guess were fucked. Our Navy is not capable to deal with the overwhelming superiority of the Iranian Navy. It's sad, but true.
 
 
+11 # WFO 2012-02-20 14:04
Quoting
I assume the Iranians will kick our asses all over the Persian Gulf when we go to war with them (don't you all think this in inevitable?). They'll probably wipe out Israel as well. I guess were fucked. Our Navy is not capable to deal with the overwhelming superiority of the Iranian Navy. It's sad, but true.

I know you are joking, but the asymmetrical war that will follow the bombing of Iran will eventually bankrupt the US.
 
 
+13 # walt 2012-02-20 12:54
Should a US senator be promoting a war for us based on another country's fears?

One has to know from this just whom Lieberman really represents.
 
 
-15 # The Voice of Reason 2012-02-20 13:19
Why do Iran and the other Islamic Republics want to destroy Israel?

They should read their own Qur'an. In it there is a surah entitled "al-Isra", devoted to Israel, which contains this prophecy:

"For thy Lord hath destined for thee a Glorious Station, and ye shall serve the Lord with all thy might." (17:79)

Indeed, Biblical prophecies of "the mighty God" bringing "the outcasts of Israel" and "the remnant of Jacob" back to the Holy Land as a mighty nation are as ancient as they are numerous. The fact that Israel has returned is living proof of the power of the Word of God.

Besides the Bible prophecies, there are Shi'a prophecies called Hadith that condemn the priests of this age:

"A day shall be witnessed by My people," their own traditions condemn them, "whereon there will have remained of Islam naught but a name, and of the Qur'án naught but a mere appearance.

"The religious doctors of that age shall be the most evil the world hath ever seen. Mischief hath proceeded from them, and on them it will recoil."

It is evident, therefore, that the only ones who would want to oppose the fulfillment of a long awaited prophecy of God, are the enemies of God.
 
 
+21 # ganymede 2012-02-20 14:53
Enough is enough. As an American Jew I say it's about time all of us put as much pressure on the neocon warmongers, many of whom are Jews to stop this insanity. Sen Adolph Lieberman may be the biggest culprit of all. Essentially, Israel is blackmailing the world over Iran. Everyone know that the blowhards in Tehran don't have and are not ever going to launch nuclear missiles on Israel. Fortunately, most American Jews are not falling for this garbage and will stick with Obama and our generals who know that an Israeli attack on Iran would be even worse than our Iraqi debacle. Most Israelis are also against this idiocy. Shame on the Israeli fascists and their American supporters.
 
 
+12 # in deo veritas 2012-02-20 15:24
Well put! This is indeed how it REALLY is-not how the "media" are doing everything they can to promote war. The PEOPLE of Israel and the USA must make their voices heard in TelAviv and Washington above the raning of neocons in both countries. Let's not forget that the Brits are also pushing this madness.
 
 
+13 # X Dane 2012-02-20 17:22
Ganymede, let me tell you what worry me a LOT. If Lieberman, Zionists and other neocon Jews keep pushing for war, and if heaven forbid it happened, the fall out would be horrible, (too few realize HOW bad it would be)

What I fear will happen is an anger toward Jews, as bad as before WW II. Remember the ship with Jewish refugees, that NO country would allow in their ports??...let alone in their countries.

Hitler succeeded in Europe, because many countries didn't like their Jewish populations. There were only two countries who courageously helped and protected their Jews, Holland and Denmark.

Because of the way Israel is treating the Palestinians, many countries are now angry at Jews. That could become an ugly full fledged persecution of Jews if the middle east go up in flames, because Israel started a war.

When disasters happens, some people always wants to find scape goats, and I am afraid the Jews would be it. That's my big fear.

I wish a lot of prominent Jews would speak out against war. That would be helpful.
 
 
+4 # Archie1954 2012-02-20 18:43
I have a dear friend whose parents were on that ship, I think it was called the St. Louis. She and her younger sister had been sent to England before her parents got out on the ship. She said that when the ship got to Cuba the government allowed all their luggage to be offloaded then refused to let the people off the ship so they lost everything they had with them, When the ship returned her parents got away to England as well but many others did not. She lost her grandmother who she remembers refusing to leave her big house. They never saw her again.
 
 
+1 # X Dane 2012-02-20 21:08
Archie. I saw the movie. It was heart wrenching, In each port, they waited for days, hoping to be allowed into that country, only to be disappointed, when they were turned away.

How sad for your friend. I am glad her parents were accepted in England. From what was mentioned at the end of the film. The majority of the passengers were caught by the Germans and sent to the camps.
 
 
+2 # abdullahiedward 2012-02-21 13:39
This is just another example of the pre-Castro Cuba that American neo-cons and half of Dade County Fla. want to go back to.
 
 
+7 # WFO 2012-02-20 15:07
Right on, Brother gany, your voice is important.
 
 
+11 # abdullahiedward 2012-02-20 15:20
I liked the answer of this German Muslim scholar when he was asked about terrorism and Islam :
He said : Who started the first world war ? Muslims ?
Who started the second world war ? Muslims ?
Who killed about 20 millions of Aborigines in Australia ? Muslims ??
Who sent the nuclear bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ? Muslims ??
Who killed more than 100 millions of Indians in North America ? Muslims ?? Who killed more than 50 millions of Indians in south America ? Muslims ?? Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves and 88% of them died and was thrown in Atlantic ocean ? Muslims ??
No , They weren't Muslims!!!
First of all, You have to define terrorism properly...
If a non-Muslim does something bad..it is crime. But if a Muslim does the same..he is terrorist...
So first remove this double standard...then come to the point!!! , .
 
 
+2 # barbaratodish 2012-02-20 15:32
New trade idea along the lines of the "Turkish-Brazilian plan in 2010 to trade about half of Iran's low-enriched uranium for radioactive isotopes needed for medical research": Iran trades half their low-enriched uranium for ALL the americans that are so obnoxious that they are equivalent to radioactive isotopes in their obnoxious toxicity!
 
 
+8 # RMDC 2012-02-20 17:07
That's right barbara -- I wish there were some way to get rid of the toxic americans. They really stink up the place. It might actually be a nice country if Joe Lieberman and all of his toxic friends moved out.
 
 
+15 # L mac 2012-02-20 16:10
Sen. Lieberman should just move to Israel. By doing so he would be in closer touch with his constituants. Seems that nothing has been learned about military involvement in the middle east except maybe the vast sums of American cash to be had.
 
 
+12 # reiverpacific 2012-02-20 17:41
Quoting
Sen. Lieberman should just move to Israel. By doing so he would be in closer touch with his constituants. Seems that nothing has been learned about military involvement in the middle east except maybe the vast sums of American cash to be had.

Lieberman move to Israel? You must be jokin'! He'd actually have to put his body in a danger zone -and the big Pharma' and insurance industries embedded in Connecticut he and his wife represent so well, would never allow it!
 
 
+10 # ozken 2012-02-20 16:36
Why is it that everytime somebody critisies Israel this anti Jewish nonsense is brought up? You can be anti the policies of America & Britain and France without being anti Christian, you can be anti the policies of Burma without being anti Buddist. Truth and justice and love and respect for your fellow human beings doesn't wear a religious facade and isn't the perogative of the U.S.A. which pretends the high moral ground. We should judge countries on their policies not their state religion and in my opinion some of the recent military actions of the U.S.A. & Israel with their apologists in Europe should be condemned. America is acting like Big Brother or Momma knows best. Sort out your own problems. Give a decent affordable education to your people, get yourselves a universal health care system and affordable medicine, upgrade your infrastructure, curb the power of the lobbyists in Washington that often results in so many outragious actions & laws, mind your own bodies and sexual lives and don't impose your beliefs on others. Empty the prisons that run on Capitalist for profit lines. Start down the road of clean energy.When you have sorted out some of those problems in your own backyard then perhaps you can preach to the world with some credibility. Until then - back off.
 
 
+6 # X Dane 2012-02-20 21:26
ozken, all your suggestions are spot on, the problem is, it is next to impossible to carry them out, when our representatives vote for constant war, because their supporters are weapons contractors!!

Unfortunately they have too big a supply of young people to send to war, because they cannot afford an education! And they cannot find work. As I have said a number of times, our young people literally have to kill for an education.

It is beyond shameful in a country, that constantly says it is the greatest country in the world. And that we are so special??. I sure wish, that was true.
 
 
+1 # Todd Williams 2012-02-21 04:39
That's a tall order there, Pilgrim. Everything you said was true. However, you did forget to mention the generosity of the American people. When there's an earthquake in Pakistan, who leads the way with aide? When there's a tsunami in the Indain Ocean, who 's there first with relief? We often are the first country to rush to the aide of other peoples. I'm not trying to excuse our weak points, but just saying America is not all bad. You didn't say where you're from, but I doubt that your country is any better.
 
 
+1 # X Dane 2012-02-21 12:44
I agree Todd. I am always impressed and touched by how fast America and many Americans step in to help, whenever there is a catastrophe somewhere in the world.

As you can see from my "name" i was not born here, but after 53 years I sure am an American, so it makes me feel bad when our country does not live up to our high ideals, or at least act decently.
 
 
+11 # RMDC 2012-02-20 16:44
It is hard to imagine a worse asshole in the US senate than Joe Lieberman, senator from Israel. He does not seem to understand that a war of aggression was what the Nazis were charged with (among other things) at Nuremberg. How would he like to see a long line of Israeli leaders and himself hanging by their necks. The penalty for starting a war is still death by hanging. What a turn around Joe Lieberman is bringing to the Israel he loves so much. He's pushing them toward the gallows, just like their Nazi forebears -- who invaded nations on very much the same grounds as Israel is now invoking against Iran.
 
 
+2 # X Dane 2012-02-20 21:38
RNDC, that is the greatest irony ....and shame. Israel is becoming what they detested and fought against.

As they were treated by the Germans, they are now treating the Palestinians.
It is a disgrace. Mahmoud Abbas and his prime minister Salam Fayad are doing a good job at governing the West Bank.

While Netanyahu is stealing more and more of their land, and building Jewish settlements. That is totally illegal.
 
 
+2 # X Dane 2012-02-21 13:18
RMDC, you are right about Lieberman. he is a grade A snake. Presumably he WAS a democrat. He went independent, when he was going to be defeated, in his last election.
I think he wanted revenge, and decided to damage the democrats as much as possible.

Remember in 08, he was ENDORSING McCain? and traveling with him, in- and outside the country. I was infuriated by his treachery.

He is now taking it MUCH further and BETRAYING our COUNTRY, by trying to get us into a completely un-winnable war. A war which will spread much further than anybody can foresee.

Russia and China sure do not want us to attack Iran, so they are NOT going to just sit back and do nothing.

And these INSANE republicans, running for the presidency, ALL are itching to hit Iran. We can NOT let them anywhere NEAR the Oval Office.
This is a very dangerous moment in time.

China, Russia, Israel and US all have nukes, it ONLY takes ONE to screw up........and heaven help us all.

We need to CALL OUT all the warmongers as the TRAITORS they surely are, before it is too late.
 
 
+12 # futhark 2012-02-20 17:08
Lieberman is an agent of a foreign government whose policies conflict with fundamental principles of equity and justice. I'd love to see him deported so that he could join his fellow Zionists in the "Promised Land".
 
 
+4 # Activista 2012-02-20 20:40
"neocons in Congress and their ALLIES in the Obama administration"
just reminder my friends - look at the list of senators and Hillary Clinton, Rice (UN) - the same people that "liberated" Libya, are arming Syria "protesters", friends of AIPAC - are waging war against Iran (sanctions are precursor to real WAR).
This is POLICY of US government and goes MUCH deeper than Lieberman (30+ senators of either party - so far NOT one senator against the policy - why?)
And nothing antisemitic. Most mature/educated people in Israel and USA are not as brainwashed as majority of this forum proves.
Both Israel and USA need REGIME CHANGE - from bellow. I think that respective governments know it and want to stop the change by going to another war (find external enemy).
 
 
-2 # fobsub 2012-02-21 01:51
Why waste time? The US and its lap-dogs should nuke all the countries they think have, or may have the "capability" to make nukes "off the map" right now. Or how about just the ones that have a lot of oil? OK, maybe just the ones with a lot of oil that Israel doesn't like? The good people of the US will go for whatever its government can scare them into. And if the people can't be persuaded the US will attack anyway after the election, or if forced to by its concubine.
 
 
+5 # fobsub 2012-02-21 02:04
I have to give Iran credit for being the only weak little country with lots of oil with the courage to stand up to the power-mongers who seek to rape it. Even other Arab countries are afraid to stand with brave Iran, shame on them.
 
 
+1 # ozken 2012-02-21 13:09
Todd Williams
Don't get me wrong mate - America has all and more of the positive things you say about her and the world respects America for it's generosity at times of calamity.That doesn't balance the wars and killing or interference in the affairs of other countries though and the generosity could be interpreted by some as just another arm of the propaganda machine. I don't care as long as it does good.
I know it's a tall order but we all know that they are the things to be concentrated on and not invading Iran or bullying the world. (Except the ones that already have nuclear bombs)
I am from Australia and:

(1) We have a universal health care system and affordable medicine.
(2) We have an affordable and decent education system and a University system that doesn't bankrupt the student.
(3) For such a vast land and a population of 22 million our infrastructure is excellent and well maintained.

How about starting on a list of three?

Of course we are not perfect and we have problems but let me say this. The likes of your Republicans would consider all three of our main political movements as SOCIALIST.
 
 
+1 # abdullahiedward 2012-02-21 14:01
Lieberman and his fellow neo-con warmongers at the PNAC have been using symantics and other word games for decades. You people just have to realize what we're talking about when we say "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Look what they did in Iraq, look what they did in Libya and thenask yourself - wh on earth you should ever believe these lie scheming bastards again!
 

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