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Ana Marie Cox writes: "Most politicians, like most people, don't meddle in others' sex lives because that'd be creepy. Santorum is not like most people."

Republican Rick Santorum speaks in Northfield, NH, Jan. 5, 2012. (photo: Elise Amendola/AP)
Republican Rick Santorum speaks in Northfield, NH, Jan. 5, 2012. (photo: Elise Amendola/AP)



Why Is Rick Santorum Obsessed With Your Sex Life?

By Ana Marie Cox, Guardian UK

21 February 12

 

Most politicians, like most people, don't meddle in others' sex lives because that'd be creepy. Santorum is not like most people

nstead of writing this column, I should just be able to turn in a picture of the witness table at Thursday's congressional hearing (convened by showy California Republican Representative Darrell Issa) on Obama's birth control policy: five middle-aged men. When Democrats tried to put a female college student on the witness list, Issa rejected the appeal, saying:

"As the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception, but instead about the administration's actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience, he believes that Ms Fluke is not an appropriate witness."

I watched an hour or so of the hearing and I'll give Issa partial credit: the hearing was definitely about the administration, and it was definitely not about reproductive rights. It was about the opposite of reproductive rights.

Republican congressmen used their time on the C-Span stage to rail against the administration supposedly overstepping its bounds, a weird formulation when you consider that providing birth control is a way of offering people more choices, more freedom. There was a lot of hand-wringing about Obama's lack of respect for the first amendment, a topic guaranteed to generate so much echo-chamber energy that it propelled some representatives to eyebrow-raising rhetorical excess. Rep Trey Gowdy (Republican, South Carolina), veering off the whole "religious freedom" script, questioned government involvement in birth control access on any level: "What," he sputtered, "is the compelling state interest in providing free contraception?"

Gowdy's opposition to abortion suggests a starting point! He's actually on record advocating how "we" should "educate women on preventing pregnancies", but I guess he hasn't considered that there are options on that score beyond not having sex.

Which brings us to sex. Observing the debate (generously defined) over Obama's proposed policy - which, at this point, doesn't require religious institutions to pay for birth control, but apparently, the argument rages on! - one gets the sense that the men talking about the ideals of religious freedom, and supposed anti-religious bias, want to stick to that topic because to engage with the real-world facts about birth control would mean talking about, you know, down there. This is uncomfortable-making for politicians and voters alike.

Aside from Fox News anchors, politics is a weirdly desexualized sphere; in the public imagination, Mitt Romney's resemblance to a Ken doll probably extends further than his bland good looks. We would just as soon not think about politicians having sex. And we'd prefer that they not think about us having sex either.

Here is where I have to give Rick Santorum a perverse (indeed) sort of credit. Unlike a vast majority of those running for office, he is totally OK with going there, penis-in-various-holes-wise. I suspect that it's his apparent comfort with explicitly raising the idea of sex, as much as his out-of-kilter views on it, that rankles all but the most extreme social conservatives. To go from the hypothetical legalization of homosexual marriage to bestiality, you have to have at least given passing thought to the physical act of gay sex.

Santorum's more recent comments relating to birth control specifically betray a similar kink. Last October, he explained why he thinks contraception is "not OK" in terms far removed from the lofty constitutional arguments of the Issa panel. Birth control, Santorum argued, is "a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be". To even have that opinion, Santorum has to have given thought to which sex acts are outside "how things are supposed to be". I dare say Rick Santorum has a richer fantasy life than most.

And right on cue, here is a message about goings-on involving aspirin down there from Santorum's sponsor, Foster Friess:

It's Santorum's internal Penthouse Forum that skeeves people out; even Newt Gingrich, who is the only candidate who has admitted to have done sex that's "not supposed to be", seems to regard Santorum's views on gender issues as inappropriately focused on physical differences. This week, responding to Santorum's insistence that, "naturally", women would be a distraction in combat, Gingrich said, "I just think that Rick completely misunderstands the nature of modern warfare."

But the discomfort about sexuality shared by politicians and their constituents has radically different implications for government policies having to do with sex - at least, when it comes to conservatives. Liberal politicians who believe in the right to gay marriage and free access to birth control are in the mainstream (since 2010, polls have repeatedly shown a majority of Americans support same-sex marriage; while a poll this week showed that very nearly two thirds of people support health insurance coverage of birth control).

When a conservative politician decides he doesn't want to think about people having sex, he (and it is usually "he") lends support to policies that suggest you shouldn't have it.

But when a typical American decides he doesn't want to think about people having sex, he or she just doesn't want to watch.

 

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+50 # LiberalLibertarian 2012-02-21 08:15
In America, morality is universally measured in terms of person's sexual behavior. In reality, it is only a small measure, usually only of concern to the individual and their sex partner(s).

There may as well be only 1 Commandment instead of 10. The Right Wing is not alone in this false morality. Watch MSNBC or read the Left Wing blogs blather excitedly about any Republican misconduct in the sexual arena. To justify this as indicting the Republicans for hypocracy is just as hypocritical. Report it, if you must; better yet, just ignore it.

This does not excuse sexual activity such as child pornography, rape, and any other actions that physically or emotionally harm others; with or without consent.

I would much rather discuss why aren't we, the richest nation, not teaching the poor to fish. Instead, the Republicans, with Democratic acquiescence take away the fish, and ask the poor to pay to learn how to fish. Jesus, Buddah, Moses, Mohammend and any other Religious icon would condemn such an act. For the religions that believe in Hell, creating a no win scenario that keeps them in poverty is certainly a one way ticket to Hell. Consensual sex with someone other than your spouse is a ticket to Divorce Court. Preventing pregnancy and aborting a fetus is only a sin to those that believe it a sin, and they should leave the rest of us alone. And let me have sex with whomever I want and marry whomever I want.
 
 
+90 # artful 2012-02-21 08:26
Well, republicans lie . . . all the time . . . and Rick Santorum would be more comfortable in a 14th century College of Cardinals voting on the Court of the Inquisition.
 
 
+7 # Capn Canard 2012-02-23 07:12
artful, Jesus, these republicans are the epitome of dictatorial Fascist wolves in sheep's clothing. They are very good at demanding personal liberty for themselves while denying anyone those same exact liberties to all people they are opposed to... kinda of the old "do as I say and as I do".

I think this issue of abortion, contraception and gay marriage is very simple: do unto others what you would have others do unto you". i.e. it is the individual's choice. Very simple, but the religious right are not real good examples of the faithful following their own precepts of faith! IMO, if it is not hurting other people, then let it slide.
 
 
+2 # dorianb@fuse.net 2012-02-23 21:11
Capn Canard: The Talmud, which the NT is rooted in can be summed up in one sentence according to a scholarly Rabbi.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

Buddhism can be summed up in one sentence, as well. "Never harm anyone".

Christian and Catholic fundamentalists ,
Santorum, et al, are using a platform which is antithetical to the OT, NT, Buddhism and the teachings of Christ.

The candidates are using anachronistic details contradictory to the true meaning of theological and spiritual ideas, which promote love, compassion and charity.
 
 
+69 # mjc 2012-02-21 08:36
Birth control is a license "to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be?" Who or what group makes that decision? This is a guy, a Republican, who claims that government shouldn't be interfering in our...and his private life. The man is quite obsessed with sex it seems...and that is okay but we don't have to put someone like that in the presidency or in any way in control of birth control or health insurance coverage which includes birth control. This holds true for the Roman Catholic Church and the more evangelical Christian groups who oppose allowing birth control to be in the hands of the people using such. In some ways it seems as if the Catholic hierarchy...all men...all chaste??, are afraid that if birth control, contraconceptio n, were available good Catholics would have no ability to resist such a temptation. And isn't crazy that we are debating this during this Republican primary season??? Fifty years ago many Catholics just gave up on the rhythm method and used whatever birth control they could afford and find. Santorum lives in the wrong century. He should try living in the late Middle Ages. They would have made use of his passion within Inquisition circles.
 
 
-32 # dayved_30 2012-02-21 14:28
Birth control is already available to all catholics. Just up until now you couldnt force a church to give it to employees in a private church hospital, who's doctrine forbids it. Forcing an insurace company to give it "free" to all paying employees in a hospital is no different
 
 
+5 # LiberalLibertarian 2012-02-22 05:38
The instant that insurance has a copay, or any kind of deductible, or if the employer has to pay just 1 penny of the insurance cost; the employer loses the right to dictate the terms of that insurance. The instant that employer engages in an open market activity, they are subject to ALL open market rules.

I belong to the Church that Murders Adulterers. Unfortunately, our Murder Clinic Temples are only open to those that belong to our faith, so If you mess around on your spouse you and your spouse must join our Church by attending services, then your spouse may murder you.
May the forgiving all powerful being bless you and your righteous spouse.
 
 
+81 # ilenewells 2012-02-21 09:18
It is all about his Dominionist Cathoic views on procreation. Sex is only supposed to be about making a baby. If you are not married, then birth control gives you the freedom of having sex before marraige without the consequence of having a baby. Contraception also allows married couples to have sex without the intent on having a baby, so that is bad too. It is all about the babies. That is the only reason to have sex in his mind. Period. Otherwise, sex is bad and evil, don't you know. AND, it is all the woman's fault..because of Eve...a myth from thousands of years ago...

These devout followers of the wizard in the sky really believe this stuff, that is what is so scary, and they want to turn this country into the Christian Taliban. We cannot allow this to happen.
 
 
0 # maveet 2012-02-24 13:58
Dominionist Dominionist Dominionist

Keep repeating and exposing this small detail. Thank you.
 
 
+52 # genierae 2012-02-21 09:27
Right-wing Republicans are still holding a grudge against the women's movement for encouraging us to think for ourselves. There are so many smart, independent women alive today, who do just fine without a man to take care of them. As 50% of the population, we are taking our rightful places in public offices across this country. Republicans are determined to turn that around, drag us back to slaving over a hot stove, barefoot and pregnant, and swooning over the brilliance of our better halves. Not going to happen, Mr. Santorum. Deal with it.
 
 
+43 # LiberalLibertarian 2012-02-21 10:31
Here is another take on the Republican/Right Wing war against women.

A majority of women vote Democratic. By stepping back the legal rights that women have rightfully taken from the Oppressor class, they can revert the right to vote back to the "man of the house". The long game is Republican/Right Wing total political control. I say Oppressor Class because I believe, but cannot right now prove that the many of same people that believe in oppressing Blacks, Hispanics, and/or others also oppress women. A victory for this class against women will open the door to step back Civil Rights, especiall voting. Whoops! Never mind they already are.

NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN!
Especially if there is woman you love. Especially if you are a woman.
Especially if you believe in modern Representataive Democracy.
 
 
+1 # dorianb@fuse.net 2012-02-24 01:36
Genierae: The bible was canonized by
men writing before the constitution was in existence or law protecting womens' rights. A rational person would assume that prohibitions based on culturally accepted ideas of that time would change over time. Contraception, abortion, pre-natal screening, did not even exist at the time.

GOD didn't write the bible. The bible was written by ordinary men totally unaware of the impact medical advances, science, technology, literature, & feminism would have on cultural morways & ideas about a woman's role in the world.

First Wave feminism gave women the right to vote. Second Wave feminism sent a majority of women into the work force, business, professions, factories. It gave them the self respect that comes with functioning as a full-fledged adult capable of making decisions about her own body and her life.

A misogynist, political opportunist who thinks he's going to take away a woman's right to control her body & destiny will go down in history as a man who brought on & was brought down by Third Wave feminism.
 
 
+42 # sicilian 2012-02-21 09:33
And, why aren't the Democrats pressing Santorum on capital punishment so that he can be consistent with his professed Catholic beliefs. He is wishy washy about it. Also, why can't we call him a "radical Catholic" -- we are to polite?
 
 
+34 # Billy Bob 2012-02-21 12:17
My mom is a radical Catholic. She's SO radical that sanitorium and the council of bishops have made her decide she's a DEMOCRAT no matter what anyone says and that it's none of their business. She's SO radical that she's had enough of the hypocricy.

She's 84 years old, and believe me, she's just one of millions of Catholic Americans who might not have voted for Obama before this.

BUT THEY WILL NOW.
 
 
+55 # GF4A 2012-02-21 09:55
Santorum, yet another Christian pushing HIS doctrine, as well as that of Evangelicals, on the American people.

I agree with LiberalLibertar ian's comment: "It's only a sin if you believe it is," and ilenewells interjection that the 'devout followers of the wizard in the sky... want to turn this country into the Christian Taliban."

IT IS NOBODY'S BUSINESS if one uses birth control or not.

IT IS NOT THE RIGHT OF THE U.S. GOVT to tell the people of this country to abstain from using birth control.

NO RELIGIOUS FACTION, claiming that they 'are' the religion of the United States (i.e. Christianity) has ANY RIGHT to force their beliefs on any American citizen - period!

I want to know -- why and how -- so much religious doctrine has been allowed to get into politics?

One's sex life: whether they are gay or straight, whether or not they use birth control or not or believe in heaven or hell (or not) HAS NO PLACE IN POLITICS!

Until the bedrooms of America are placed on the front lawns of every abode, it's nobody business.
 
 
+30 # Chick Dante 2012-02-21 10:04
Aside from the "creepy" nature of Santorum's preoccupation with your sex lives, there is tremendous hypocrisy in the juxtaposition between his proposing significant big government intrusion and the so-called "freedom" that he says can onl be won through reducing the size of the same government. In short, this demonstrates both a lack of integrity and self-awareness that is scary in a national leader. When was the last time we suffered at the hands of one of those?

Left unreported, though, is the code that Santorum uses to tipoff his "Dominionist or Reconstructioni st" views when it comes to the environment. If you understand Rousas Rushdoony and his son-in-law, Gary North, you pick up on this agenda "between the lines." In effect, Rick Santorum is our first Reconstructioni st candidate for President. When this gets out in the open (Rachel Maddow are you listening?), and the so-called conservatives (even the authoritarians) figure out what the agenda is, his support will collapse.

I hope.
 
 
+38 # angelfish 2012-02-21 10:16
I want this Cretin to tell me just HOW "It's supposed to be", since he is the Self-Appointed Poobah of ALL things Sexual, Reproductive, and Personal! Let's hear it, Ayatollah Santorum! HOW is it "supposed to be"? I can't HEAR you! I want to see a Reporter on Network Television ASK him those very questions and hold his feet to the fire until he answers coherently! No chance of THAT happening any time soon! He's the one rattling the bars, I want to hear him to enumerate the "Rules". Anyone else eager for these Pearls of Wisdom out of the mouth of a FOOL? No? I didn't THINK so!
 
 
+30 # Bruce Gruber 2012-02-21 10:19
Every once in a while I drift into the fantasy that these "social values" moralists actually BELIEVE the spittle and foam they project.

Then I sink back into the fetid reality of Donald Segretti, the 'patriotic' untruthiness of the Swift Boaters, false equivalency of SCOTUS simultaneous "free" and "corporate" speech, Rovarian division politics, and the Moral Majority, Tea Party or (How in hell DO or CAN you?) "Restore Our Future" ... what does that MEAN?

I guess superPACmen - Adelson, Friess, Simmons, the Koch Brothers and a few dozen other patrons - significantly influence virtually ALL of this ART of political propaganda. The "special" nature of their INTERESTS generally defines the direction, intensity and enthusiasm of their 'investments' in government. The impact of their voice does drown out the murmurs of those who OCCUPY the underclass.

Acceptance of this SURREALITY is problematic. It seems likely that righteous whores are not stupid. They know who they are screwing AND who is paying for it. They don't represent me and I have little respect for their 'pimps'. It is unlikely that ANY of them have a clue about "representative" democracy.
 
 
+17 # Holyone 2012-02-21 10:34
This article was disappointing. It was rather confusing, in fact. It never answered the question of why Rick Santorium feels he has a right to force his personal views of religion and of "what he sees as "natural", or otherwise, into the Public domain?

There is something "unnatural" about Rick's obsession about what goes on in other people's bedrooms.

What's going on here?
 
 
+19 # Lennie 2012-02-21 10:44
If we are supposed to have "separation of church and state" (government), shouldn't we also have "separation of sex and state" (government). I don't think the founding fathers ever, in their wildest dreams, figured we'd be having these discussions 235 years after they got this country in motion. Why are we even talking about all this?
 
 
+36 # DaveM 2012-02-21 11:04
Am I the only one who is waiting for the moment when he is caught in a motel room or men's room "in a compromising position" with someone other than his wife? People who are this repressed inevitably act out sooner or later.
 
 
+30 # amye 2012-02-21 11:06
We may find out that Rick Santorum is a sex addict or maybe he's really gay or maybe he likes some kind of kinky sex because he is obsessed with SEX!!!
 
 
+2 # Doubter 2012-02-22 12:07
I have the idea that ANYONE seeking power has to automatically be a freak. (even if they have redeeming qualities)
 
 
+18 # LeeBlack 2012-02-21 11:26
We are rushing toward a world's population of 9 billion in 2050. The religious might start thinking that maybe there isn't enough room for everyone; maybe we should start encouraging birth control by any means so that we can be God's (and the Earth's) caretakers.
 
 
+20 # Buddha 2012-02-21 11:29
All this derping about "freedom of religion"...how about Freedom FROM religion? Our Christian Taliban wants a theocracy just as does the religious extremists in the Middle East, the only difference being the "Holy Book" they base their religion on...
 
 
+13 # Billy Bob 2012-02-21 15:10
Freedom From Religion is part of the concept of Freedom of Religion. In fact, it's explicitly stated in the First Amendment.

When repugs talk about "Freedom" of ANYTHING, they're just lying. That's all there is to it.
 
 
+16 # Billy Bob 2012-02-21 12:08
"OUR GOAL IS TO SHRINK GOVERNMENT TO THE SIZE WHERE WE CAN INSERT IT IN A WOMAN'S VAGINA"

-Grover Norquist
 
 
+4 # LiberalLibertarian 2012-02-21 13:01
BillyBob

I think their real intention is to DP women and sodomize men. Really, Grover et al just want to F, they don't care who or where. Its our job to make sure they only stick it where it can't harm us... Wrapped inside their own hands.
 
 
+14 # ozken 2012-02-21 12:30
Maybe Sick Rantorum is obsessed by your sex life because he doesn't have one?
 
 
+5 # reiverpacific 2012-02-21 13:18
Y'konw, it may well be as simple as the well researched fact, from the early days of the theater and especially the movies, that sex is a huge drawing card,voyeurism is a spectator-sport and scandal is the opiate of the tabloids.
I mean, these four wannabe's -with the possible exception of Ron Paul (who is at least trying to stick to socio-political issues, a bit bent as they are in his case) are so lacking in substance and ideas that they have to try SOMETHING that will get the attention of the mostly disengaged-by-their-favorite-soaps-and-game-shows once every four year activists.
You have to ask his handlers but inevitably as DaveM mentions, these God-botherers who wear their religion on their sleeves for daws to peck on, are usually the ones caught with their hands in the choir-boy's knicker or y'r equivalent of choice.
Ask Newt (I know, know, Democrats done-done it too but I'm talking about what the Scottish call the "Kirky Folk", overwhelmingly Repug' over here).
 
 
0 # Regina 2012-02-23 11:54
Ron Paul is an MD, OB-GYN. Maybe he's seen enough vaginas.
 
 
+5 # RLF 2012-02-21 13:46
He is gay...

and in the closet...like many 'Christians' who don't have the courage to face it!
 
 
+11 # L mac 2012-02-21 13:55
Jobs Rick, that's what we are interested in. Sidetracking is what you are doing man. Maybe that's all you have though, just thoughts about sex.
 
 
+25 # erogers 2012-02-21 14:33
I am neither Republican nor Democrat. But I can say that Rick Santorum scares the living hell out of me and should have every American voter with any common sense running away. He is a religious ideologue.Ideologues are the worse type of leader and the most dangerous. Most are brilliant and are passionate about their beliefs and their insistence that you accept and abide by those beliefs. Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Mao are perfect examples. At the height of the Spanish inquisition the Catholic Church used the Grand Inquisitor Torquermada to spread terror and death to insure the Churches perverted beliefs were the law. Everyone of those leaders named above used similar butchers in their insane quest to have people abide by a certain ideologue. If Santorum were elected President a darkness would spread across America the likes of which we have never seen. Santorum is an absolute nutcase and the scariest part is he has a lot of nutty followers. But so did every one of those leaders I just mentioned. If he is elected it will be time for the Monty Python military maneuver "run away run away"!!!
 
 
+24 # Richard1908 2012-02-21 15:02
You Americans are weird. All this fuss about sex. Do any of you people watch your American television shows? Sex, sex, sex, kinky sex, gay sex, lesbian sex, coloured sex, doctors having sex, cowboys having sex, cops having sex, sex, sex, sex, sex.
Of course, if you don't like it you can tune out and watch the guns, guns, guns.
 
 
0 # RLF 2012-02-22 05:19
Yeah! Guns!
 
 
+18 # mikenovember 2012-02-21 19:57
Gary Wills, the Pulitzer Prize-winning historian, in the NY Review of Books, had this to say about this genius:
"Rick Santorum is a nice smiley fanatic. He does not believe in evolution or global warming or women in the workplace. He equates gay sex with bestiality (Rick 'Man on Dog' Santorum).
He equates contraception with the guillotine. Only a brain-dead party could think him a worthy presidential candidate. . . He is presented by television pundits as a model Catholic. Torquemada was, in that sense a model Catholic. What we are seeing is not a defense of undying principle but a stampede toward a temporarily exploitable lunacy."
 
 
+6 # Tippitc 2012-02-21 21:16
To Richard1908 - I agree 100% It is not just TV shows, it is the ads also - ads are an eyelash away from soft porn. The only ads not using that approach are peddling nasty breakfast "cereal" to 5 year olds!

Fact of life - none of us would be on RSN if two people somewhere at sometime didn't have SEX!! It is way past time for the senile old men in DC to move on - we have been down this same road way too many times!! and to exclude women from the discussion is a totally patriarchal, arrogant attitude!!
 
 
+7 # Archie1954 2012-02-21 22:41
Once a famous leader of another country said "the state does not belong in the bedrooms of the nation". That was in 1968 and that country has refrained from interfering with people's personal lives since then, yet here in the US it seems that the strong arm of the law would like to continue to punish people for their own consensual sexual practices 44 years later.
 
 
+3 # Capn Canard 2012-02-23 07:38
Archie 1954, yeah, the transition of the GOP can be laid at the feet of Ronald Reagan. He tacitly invited the Religious Right to the Party and down the road of stupidity they have taken the whole party while they've abandoned Liberty!!! It would hilarious if it weren't so close to Fascist/Authoritarian/Totalitarian control.
 
 
+2 # barbaratodish 2012-02-22 11:36
RE what Santorum was quoted as saying: "Santorum's insistence that, "naturally", women would be a distraction in combat..."
Women are a distraction to men even when men are having sex with a woman! Most men want to have sex with an ILLUSION instead of a woman, and any reality at all takes away from their pornification of force fantasy, whether it is the real violence of war or the fantasied violence of a sex "war" on women.
 
 
+11 # Willy M. 2012-02-22 12:25
One solution: eliminate the tax breaks now afforded to most religions in the U.S. Do not allow the money saved by non-tax paying institutions to be used against you, a la the Mormon Church and its millions spent on their anti-gay anti-civil rights campaign against Prop. 8 in CA. It is increasingly clear that the fundagelicals and most of the religions in general are interfering in our governmental affairs using uncollected tax money to do so. Let's get the churches taxed along with the corporate anti-American tax evaders.
 
 
+6 # Capn Canard 2012-02-23 07:33
Willy M, stop making sense! These religious zealots are the worst of the worst. They BELIEVE, therefore a brilliant well reasoned argument can't reach their consciousness. Having their consciousness controlled by belief, it is literally beyond their ability to comprehend.

I suggest we now start to tax all religions unless they do substantial benefit for all of the public, like hospitals that accept all without any faith biased restrictions whatsoever, that includes providing abortion on demand and contraception etc etc etc despite that religious organization's beliefs. If they insist on maintaining and holding onto their belief's then hit them hard with taxation. This is for the good of the people, not for the good of the clergy/church. The people shouldn't fear the clergy, the clergy should fear the people. Apply this to politicians and the private sector as well...
 
 
0 # giraffee2012 2012-02-24 10:33
Santorum is obsessed and plain crazy who is part of the circus that bleeps on TV paid for by the Supreme Court.

If you Vote GOP/TP - we will be back in the 14th century with women bare-foot and pregnant and "you know the story"

Vote Dem and hope a 3rd party of 99%ers emerges in the next 4 years while the Citizens' United along with Supreme Court justices Scalia/Thomas go to jail or wherever those "good folks" go.

Don't vote GOP/TP or we fall with into the hell described by the circus of Republican candidates (none need or know of people who need jobs and a life)
 
 
0 # CL38 2012-02-24 21:41
....because he doesn't have one of his own???!!!
 

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