Taibbi writes: "As a journalist, there's a buzz you can detect once the normal restraints in your business have been loosened, a smell of fresh chum in the waters, urging us down the road to war. Many years removed from the Iraq disaster, that smell is back, this time with Iran."
Matt Taibbi at Skylight Studio in New York, 10/27/10. (photo: Neilson Barnard/Getty Images)
Another March to War?
18 February 12
s a journalist, there's a buzz you can detect once the normal restraints in your business have been loosened, a smell of fresh chum in the waters, urging us down the road to war. Many years removed from the Iraq disaster, that smell is back, this time with Iran.
You can just feel it: many of the same newspapers and TV stations we saw leading the charge in the Bush years have gone back to the attic and are dusting off their war pom-poms. CNN's house blockhead, the Goldman-trained ex-finance professional Erin Burnett, came out with a doozie of a broadcast yesterday, a Rumsfeldian jeremiad against the Iranian threat would have fit beautifully in the Saddam's-sending-drones-at-New-York halcyon days of late 2002. Here's how the excellent Glenn Greenwald described Burnett's rant:
It's the sort of thing you would produce if you set out to create a mean-spirited parody of mindless, war-hungry, fear-mongering media stars, but you wouldn't dare go this far because you'd want the parody to have a feel of realism to it, and this would be way too extreme to be believable. She really hauled it all out: WMDs! Terrorist sleeper cells in the U.S. controlled by Tehran! Iran's long-range nuclear missiles reaching our homeland!!!! She almost made the anti-Muslim war-mongering fanatic she brought on to interview, Rep. Peter King, appear sober and reasonable by comparison.
Like Greenwald, I was particularly struck by Burnett's freak-out about Iran's nuclear program, about which she said, "No one buys Iran's claim that [it is] for peaceful purposes." She then cited remarks by Director of Intelligence James Clapper, which, she said, "drove that message home." But then she ran a clip with Clapper's quote, which read as follows:
Iran's technical advances . . . strengthen our assessment that Iran is more than capable of producing enough highly enriched uranium for a weapon if its political leaders, specifically the Supreme Leader himself, choose to do so.
In other words, "If Iran were to decide to be capable of making nuclear weapons, it would be capable of making nuclear weapons." Unless I'm missing something, that's a statement that would be true of almost any industrialized country, wouldn't it?
Virtually all of the Iran stories of late have contained some version of this sort of rhetorical sophistry. The news "hook" in most all of these stories is that intelligence reports reveal Iran is "willing" to attack us or go to war - but then there's usually an asterisk next to the headline, and when you follow the asterisk, it reads something like, "In the event that we attack Iran first."
An NBC report Greenwald also wrote about put it this way: "Within just the past few days, Iranian leaders have threatened that if attacked, they would launch those missiles at U.S. targets."
There's a weird set of internalized assumptions that media members bring to stories like this Iran business. In fact there's an elaborate belief system we press people adhere to, about how a foreign country may behave toward the U.S., and how it may not behave. It reminds me a little of a passage in Anna Karenina about the belief system of noblemen in Tolstoy's day:
Vronsky's life was particularly happy in that he had a code of principles, which defined with unfailing certitude what he ought and what he ought not to do… These principles laid down as invisible rules: that one must pay a cardsharper, but need not pay a tailor; that one must never lie to a man, but one may lie to a woman; that one must never cheat anyone, but one may a husband; that one must never pardon an insult, but one may give one, and so on.
We have a similar gentleman's code, a "Westernized industrial power" code if you will, that operates the same way. In other words, our newspapers and TV stations may blather on a thousand times a day about attacking Iran and bombing its people, but if even one Iranian talks about fighting back, he is being "aggressive" and "threatening"; we can impose sanctions on anyone, but if the sanctioned country embargoes oil shipments to Europe in response, it's being "belligerent," and so on.
I'm not defending Achmedinejad, I think he's nuts and a monstrous dick and I definitely don't think he should be allowed to have nuclear weapons, but to me this issue has little to do with Iran at all. What's more troubling to me is that we've internalized this "gentleman's code" to the point where its basic premises are no longer even debated.
Once upon a time, way back in the stone ages, when Noam Chomsky was first writing about these propaganda techniques in Manufacturing Consent, our leaders felt the need to conceal - or at least sugar-coat - these Orwellian principles. It was assumed that the American people genuinely needed to feel like they were on the right side of things, and so the foreign powers we clashed with were always depicted as being the instigators and aggressors, while our role in provoking those responses was always disguised or at least played down.
But now the public openly embraces circular thinking like, "Any country that squawks when we threaten to bomb it is a threat that needs to be wiped out." Maybe I'm mistaken, but I have to believe that there was a time when ideas like that sounded weird to the American ear. Now they seem to make sense to almost everyone here at home, and that to me is just as a scary as Achmedinejad.
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The people had better wake up and do something before it is too late, before we get another Vietnam, Afgthanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc. only much worse.
See
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29343
War Propaganda's Triumph: U.S. Public Opinion on Iran
by Ben Schreiner
Global Research, February 16, 2012
The US can step back from the Middle East (oil)and Muslim feuds by simply re-orienting transport to the pre-WW1 model: railway based distribution and mobility, cars mainly for the upper class, and on-site warehousing of stock in retail establishments (exit "Just-In-Time"). Others wishing to have cars would use them sparingly, in a gas-rationing scenario.
Of course a railway based economy is not going to happen by choice. We are going to dish out lumps, and take our lumps too, some big and painful ones. THEN after everyone pulls back to their home borders, America will salvage what can be salvaged, try to fend off attackers, and attempt to maintain the Union Of States. Railways will be rebuilt as possible, and most cars will be scrapped for the metal, except for the millions used as shelters...
See "ELECTRIC WATER" By Christopher C. Swan, 2007. Maintain local US Post offices...
When I heard the story of how Turner, CNN's founder and old style ethics in journalism matters promoter, was crushed out of his tv news creation, in order to turn CNN into 'just another corporate state lie and propoganda outlet", it made me want to announce a new mantra:
UNDO THE COUP!!!
In looking around for the status I came across a good video by Michel Chossudovsky. He talks a bit about the media in it, as well as the long term plans for war, as laid out by PNAC, etc.
Not that the information he gives is not available elsewhere, but hwe just blurts out the truth and brings it together, and the CIA & war mongers hate that sort of thing.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3117338213439292490&ei=GmRQSY7DMprUqAPEhLCtBw&q=chossudovsky&hl=en#
War and Globalization - The Truth Behind September 11 1:56:31 - 5 years ago
But I'm glad it was down long enough that I looked at found that video. It's excellent!! You gotta watch it.
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2012/02/hardhitting-dissenting-journalism.html
I am sure they feel guilty about some of the actions they took part in. No doubt they also realize, that we are creating many more enemies, and then they see how few people are actually paying attention to the war, in this country.
The BS that they are protecting OUR freedom, is bunk, perpetuated by the contractors making money off war. The poor military getting killed or maimed, are simply trying to earn a "living" or get an education. How incredibly sad.
Did you read the article last week by a captain or colonel, in which he stated that there is NO progress in Afghanistan and our forces are dying for a totally futile cause.
As in Vietnam, so here, the top brass is lying to us: Oh, we are almost there, we just need to stay a few more years and all will be great. LIES, LIES, LIES.
We can stay for 10- 15- 20- years and the result will still be the same.
We are making more Afghans hate us, because we kill too many innocent people along with the ones fighting us. It is a LOSE LOOSE situation.
We are there because the contractors make money on war. PERIOD
When you see a warmonger like Lieberman pushing for war it is really scary and unfortunately he has 30 senators agreeing with him, making it even more worrysome
What about the IMT trials in Nuremberg Germany where people were hanged for "starting a preemptive war"? Where are the legal minds to apply the same laws to Israelis and Americans?
Guess you also saw that Israel is thinking about tearing down solar power panels in the Palestinian community, stating it is under Israel's control?
Israel is the wild card, and the U.S. is stacking the deck.
Please provide sources for your figures. According to what I found, and what I remember, the North Vietnamese did the lion's share of the killing, by all estimates, and the total of those who died, North and South, was only slightly over 1 milion. In Iraq, although we must accept the blame for having started the war, the Iraquis themselves and the Al Quaeda-trained forces who tried to take over the fight caused far more casualties than we did.
Sources, please.
Patriot the Vietnamese defended their country. We invaded them remember? Did our involvement actually stop people from dying? What they did to us they did in self-defense just like Iran will be forced to do if we are stupid enough to follow through on this senseless path of destruction. Sorry while you argue about numbers I believe if 1 human being dies in this promotion it was one too many.
Have they been eradicated after the invasion? No. They are just too valuable a tool.
Unfortunately, the only people paying for these rich bastards in control of this " war theater" now are the poor and soon to be destroyed middle class in America. ""Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other." -J. Madison
You seem to have completely forgotten that Obama wants to go to war with Iran. And that Democrats are behind him on this.
It's scary to see how many Americans are so ready to blame Republicans but omit Democrats who are equally guilty.
Tunnel vision gets us nowhere.
W would no doubt jump at the chance of another war. He LIKED being a WAR president. He aimed for that, before he ever entered the White House. He said that to be an important president, you have to be a war president.
We know how well THAT worked for out for the country. W will go down in history.
He can do nothing about that.
Obama, has made many, many mistakes, but his ambition is NOT to be a war president. He want's to do social reforms, more like Lyndon Johnson or F.D.R.
And Obama is too intelligent not to know that, it will be impossible if we get into yet another war, and one that will cause MUCH MORE damage and be wider than the war in Iraq.
I fully expect red marks raining down, for too many are ready to believe the worst about Obama. but somebody has to be fair.
I know he has said that: "Nothing is off the table". of course he did. If he did not. The republicans and Neocons would scream that he was a coward and placing the country in danger.
He has amply proved that he has way more courage than W ever did, and he has applied much tougher sanction on Iran than ever before.
Midwest Tom, I like your sarcasm. Of course they will arrange a false flag event so that we can rah rah ourselves into a disastrous war.
Will we ever learn? Or will we just follow the butt in front of us into the FEMA camps.
Mr. Obama needs to be held accountable for his pursuit of drone assassinations, keeping Guantanamo open, supporting FISA, NDAA, and the PATRIOT Act. Dr. Paul is the only "major party" candidate with the insight and courage to speak the truth on this issues.
Bloated defense spending, forced hegemony and immoral wars on the part of the U.S. need to be the next poison pill in American politics.
If the Obama apologists vote for that war monger and taker of our rights (NDAA is one example), and those who vote for him b/c they think he's the lesser of two evils, then we will have the same thing we had with Bush which has continued under the Obama administration and shows no signs of stopping.
Either stay home or vote for a third party candidate such as Jill Stein.
Otherwise, you are showing Democrats that what they have done to us is OK with you.
Stand up for yourself and the rest of the 99 percent.
that the soldiers dying on the battlefield and the civilians
dying in their beds are never
the sons, daughters and families
of the people in power who start
the war.
[A]n all round increase in wealth threatened the destruction—ind eed in some sense was the destruction—of a hierarchical society. In a world in which everyone worked short hours, had enough to eat, lived in a house with a bathroom and a refrigerator, and possessed a motorcar...the most obvious and perhaps the most important form of inequality would already have disappeared. If it once became general, wealth would confer no distinction...[I]f leisure and security were enjoyed by all alike, the great mass of human beings who are stupefied by poverty would become literate and would learn to think for themselves; and once they had done this, they would sooner or later realize that the privileged minority had no function, and they would sweep it away. In the long run, a hierarchical society was only possible on a basis of poverty and ignorance..."
--George Orwell, from his novel, "1984."
In case you want to read more about him, the correct spelling is Randolph S. Bourne, from Bloomfield, NJ
1. Who is "us" when we hear that Iran threatens "us" all?
2. Is there a lobby that works overtime to get the US to go to war for it?
3. Is there any evidence of WMD's?
4. Is there a country near Iran that has WMD's but will not allow weapons inspectors in?
I have no love for Achmedinejad either, but we need to stick to the facts and remember that the Iranians are, like so many others, good people.
They want to continue making money. To hell with the country and all the ones who have to go and use the weapons to kill more people and increase the hatred against our country. How do we stop them???
They know that Foux has the most viewers, so they aim to emulate them.
They are not intelligent enough to understand that they will lose viewers who would like some Unbiased information.
The indoctrinated ones are so stuck on Foux, that nothing can pry them off. Maybe Erin should go to Foux, she could take another warmonger along: that old idiot Wolf Blitzer.
In the run up to the Iraq war Blitzer was practically salivating at the thought of bombs raining down on the poor Iraqis.....that we were LIBERATING??
He was so exited about "Shock and Awe". He was one of the very few that were. Unfortunately, the hawks in our country love to scare the pants off of people, with our bombs and other tools of death.
Are the American people that stupid and that gullible that they will believe the lies and rally behind Obama when he declares war with Iran?
apologies to John Lennon
Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb, bomb, bomb
There's nothing you can do to stop the lies
No country we can't get you to despise
A drone overhead and you soon believe the news It's easy
Attack Iran's the latest thrill
No one that moves we cannot kill
Nothing you can do but meekly go along
and send your brother, son or mom
It's easy
All you need is war, bomb ta da the bomb
All you need is war, bomb ta da the bomb
All together now...
Not what the Iran war cry is but says what America does best since the days of the Indians.
Embarrassing to be an American these days.
Nothing you can do to feed the poor
Put them in prison and slam the door
Sorry Iran but we need another war
It's easy
All you need is war... ad infinitum, etc.
For starters, each of us can tell our Representatives , Senators, and President that if they decide to launch yet another war, they'll have to fight it themselves, because we won't fight it for them. Bet on it, nothing will happen until *after* the fall elections, so we need to make certain that all candidates and both parties get the message: No more wars unless we've been attacked first!
We have more on our plate than we can manage as it is. Our military is spread far too thinly, and they're tired, tired, tired, having been involved in the worst kind of combat, guerilla warfare, for ELEVEN years, without a pause and with no end in sight.
Grouchy, I agree with you: Who appointed us arbiters of who can and who can't develop nuclear capability? We need to worry more about what's going on *here* for a while, and let the rest of the nations of the world mind their business, themselves, for a change.
Iran hasn't DONE anything, yet, but they will make formidable adversaries. They're vigliant and tough, they've never knuckled under to anyone, and they won't melt away before an invading force.
Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan should have taught us about our own arrogance; but Iran is capable of teaching us whole lot more if we don't stop trying to force them into a war!
The first incident wasn't enough to pull us into a conflict. the second totally made-up false "incident" was what was needed to justify the all out war in Vietnam.
We have the internet to give us more than the canned propaganda being spewed on the teevee/radios/papers. Encourage people to look on the net for real information.
"You gotta Work for Peace. They got people working for War." Gil Scott Heron's "Work for Peace." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPqpV9olIlw
I mean, this is IT!
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2012/02/hardhitting-dissenting-journalism.html
Gob-smacked excellent writing dude! You're baaack!
"Goldman-trained ex-finance professional," "Rumsfeldian jeremiad:" I think this calls for Gil Scott Heron's "Work for Peace" (ie the military and the monetary) video. "You gotta work for peace. They got people working for war." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPqpV9olIlw
No: scarier, because more heavily equipped & with a far more warlike record.
If we're smart we'll let Israel defend itself. Americans have paid big tax dollars to fund Israel's nuke program and military industrial complex. That's enough. Israel doesn't need us beyond what we've provided for their defense.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/feb2012/syri-f20.shtml
US sends drones over Syria as fighting spreads
By Alex Lantier
20 February 2012
US military officials confirmed Saturday that US drones are flying over Syria, as fighting spreads inside the country and US officials discuss military or “humanitarian” intervention to topple Syrian President Bashar al Assad.
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