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Ash writes: "No, this is not what all American military personnel do. Many do not, would not. But that it can happen at all taints indelibly and irrevocably not only every American soldier, but every American. I was there. You were there. We were there. I am, you are, we are guilty, too."

U.S. troops conduct a night raid on a family home in Baquba, Iraq in 2007. (photo: Goran Tomasevic/Reuters)
U.S. troops conduct a night raid on a family home in Baquba, Iraq in 2007. (photo: Goran Tomasevic/Reuters)



The Mindlessness

By Marc Ash, Reader Supported News

02 September 11

"ust before the 11 PM closing time on May 24, 2000, two armed robbers walked into a Wendy's fast-food restaurant in Queens, New York. They forced seven workers into a walk-in refrigerator, bound, and gagged them, and shot each one in the head."

Sound horrific? Unimaginable? It came to be known as "The Wendy's Massacre". The public outcry was as swift as it was unyielding: "Justice for the victims!"

The release this week by McClatchy Newspapers of a secret U.S. diplomatic cable detailing the killing by U.S. forces of 10 Iraqi civilians - in their homes, in the dark of night - is hauntingly reminiscent of the Wendy's massacre.

Philip Alston, the U.N.'s Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions wrote in a memo dated April 6th, 2006, (12 days after the killings):

"The MNF (American) troops entered the house, handcuffed all residents and executed all of them. After the initial MNF intervention, a US air raid ensued that destroyed the house."

Yes, there was a man of military age in the house, Faiz Hratt Khalaf, a local farmer, age 28, and shots were reportedly fired from the home at the U.S. troops as they approached, but what follows is a mindless act of brutality carried out in a methodical manner normally associated with the worst mass killings in the annals of U.S. domestic crime.

Not only is everyone in the home bound at gunpoint, but each of the residents and guests then are shot in the head execution-style. And as if that weren't enough, a U.S. airstrike is conducted on the house to hide the evidence of the crime.

But it gets worse when you look at the identities of the victims. Besides Faiz Hratt Khalaf, the others in the home included: his wife Sumay'ya Abdul Razzaq Khuther (aged 24), their three children Hawra'a (aged 5), Aisha (aged 3) and Husam (5 months old), Faiz's mother Ms. Turkiya Majeed Ali (aged 74), Faiz's sister (name unknown), Faiz's nieces Asma'a Yousif Ma'arouf (aged 5 years old), and Usama Yousif Ma'arouf (aged 3 years old), and a visiting relative Ms. Iqtisad Hameed Mehdi (aged 23).

How do you bind the hands of a 5 month old child, no less fire a bullet into his or her head?

No, this is not what all American military personnel do. Many do not, would not. But that it can happen at all taints indelibly and irrevocably not only every American soldier, but every American. I was there. You were there. We were there. I am, you are, we are guilty, too.

There must be full disclosure by the Department of Defense. All of the troops involved, along with their commanders, must be subject to legal prosecution, including whoever approved the subsequent airstrike on the home, and anyone who had knowledge of the killings but did not report them.

There must be an immediate full congressional investigation into the incident, and appropriate action taken.

Right the ship. Do it now.

Additionally, it bears noting that none of this ever comes to light without the courage of Pfc. Bradley Manning, Julian Assange and the WikiLeaks organization. They are vindicated and their actions justified, once and for all.


Marc Ash was formerly the founder and Executive Director of Truthout, and is now founder and Editor of Reader Supported News.

Reader Supported News is the Publication of Origin for this work. Permission to republish is freely granted with credit and a link back to Reader Supported News.

 

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+102 # DaveM 2011-09-02 11:52
Where is the war crimes trial? We have people in Guantanamo Bay awaiting trial by military tribunal for serving as cab drivers for supposed terrorist bigwigs. That said, what's the going rate for mass murder?
 
 
+13 # angelfish 2011-09-02 20:46
Quoting
Where is the war crimes trial? We have people in Guantanamo Bay awaiting trial by military tribunal for serving as cab drivers for supposed terrorist bigwigs. That said, what's the going rate for mass murder?

Dave, you MUST know by now that "War Crimes" are something OTHER people do, NOT us. It would be laughable if it weren't so damned sad! I'd like to be a fly on the wall in twenty or thirty years when some hot, young Film Maker decides to do the definitive Story on the Middle East debacle ala "Judgement at Nuremburg", unvarnished and Truthful! I think THEN, ala "dick" Cheney, heads WOULD explode!
 
 
+84 # maheanuu 2011-09-02 11:59
I could not agree more! These people (?) do not deserve the title US Military nor should they ever walk free again. These are monsters who deserve no mercy, only justice. The USA has created something that in not held accountable, will destroy it as surely as it did Germany.
 
 
+5 # RagingLiberal 2011-09-04 19:08
I agree wholeheartedly with Dave, but maheanuu, you sound as though these men are somehow "gone rouge". They are not. This is now SOP for our military, ala Dick Cheney, but with complicity from the majority of our elected leaders. These men are doing what they are told to do, and doing it well. They are monsters, who were created by higher up monsters, who were created by the highest powers in the country. THOSE are the men who should be destroyed, yet never will be. Just as Obama protects Bush and Cheney from prosecution, the next will protect Obama, who is guilty of something just as evil. If you want to see Justice, start at the top, not the bottom! The men at the bottom are simply soldiers doing what they are trained and ordered to do!
 
 
+95 # cadan 2011-09-02 12:16
Marc, you are right.

And how much will the mainstream news media (MSM) cover it?

Indeed Bradley Manning, Julian Assange and wikileaks, and McClatchy are helping preserve our "civilization" by uncovering it.

Thanks so much for your work, your org, and your writing.
 
 
+62 # thinksfree 2011-09-02 12:33
The mainstream media won't cover this. There is no justice anymore. Will we ever know the identity of these people? Will the outrage we feel ever be vendicated?
 
 
+58 # Anarchist 23 2011-09-02 13:12
It seems Mai Lai cmassacre and cover up is forgotten. this has been going on for a long time. the problem is the unjust wars and the demonization of the 'enemy'. which would not be the enemy if not for the 911 'Official History'. Recent information seems to be epainting the secret services as the equivalent in efficiency to the Three Stooges; criminally stupid or actively evil? Beyond this horrific demeonstration as to how low we have fallen, one must look at the greater evil that has taken over the society like a deadly mold or cancer. but further killing is not the way out.
 
 
+35 # Pikewich 2011-09-02 13:15
Marc,

I find this behavior of our military beyond appalling. Always have since before I refused induction into the massacre of Viet Nam. That is what people do in wars, Marc. That is why we should stop having wars, Marc.

I refuse to take responsibility for what I have always spoken out against.

With Millions I have been speaking out against this traditional behavior of the country in which I live for nearly 50 years. Our country, that in competition with the other major powers, wants full control over the earth and its treasure. Our government is a bunch of pirates in search of empire.

That you state only Bradley Manning and Wikileaks are not guilty of the murder you describe, simply because the rest of us do not have access to that kind of information so that we can have the opportunity to release it, is absurd and stupid. Bradley Manning joined the Military, for God's sake.

Marc, you are focusing on the wrong things. Trying to guilt trip us is just as manipulative and sick as the dis-information propaganda machine.

Focus on facts that will bring the bastards down and enlist our help. Use the truth, not guilt wars.
 
 
+1 # William Bjornson 2011-09-03 05:21
Once mo-o-re (bo-oring) THE GOVERNMENT IS JUST A MACHINE AND DOES WHATSOEVER ITS 'OPERATOR' WANTS IT TO DO. When YOU, Pikewich, decide to actually DO something rather than whine and avoid commitment, our elite controlled government will respond by doing what WE want it to do. But, we are not in control of our own government, Sir, and the current owners are not going to let go of the steering wheel easily. We need to kill THEM. We need to go into their homes and do to them what they are having our young people do to others. The "pirates" are not our government. The gov is the cape and sword of the rich. The world is their bull. They are 100% sociopathic and have come (our Euro derived elite anyway) historically from the most murderous, most psycopathic, elements that human societies spew out in their generational rolling through time. We stick a good collective horn seriously up THEIR ass and things will change quickly. Certainly a new elite will form as humans know no other way, but it will be WAY more polite than our current crop. AGAIN, the government is NOT the problem and to think so is to repeatedly attack the cape rather than the hand holding it and controlling the sword. "Trying to guilt trip us..." WAKE UP!
 
 
+6 # Pikewich 2011-09-03 10:50
Well will, I see missed the point and are just looking for someone to blame. You have no idea what I have been doing for the last 50 years to stop this war craze our government has.

Say just what have you done but pick a fellow anti war progressive to insult?
 
 
+7 # Erdajean 2011-09-03 08:27
"Facts" will bring the bastards down? Oh come on now. "Facts" have been right before our eyes ever since the Supremes gave us Little George. And what have we done? The U.S. populace reminds me of the parents of a hellish demon of a child, who (like Obama!)stand aside while the kid wrecks our place and says, "Well don't blame US! We can't do a thing with him!" Now, whether or not we "can" do something with these fiends we have spawned among us, somehow we MUST!
 
 
+6 # Pikewich 2011-09-03 10:51
Yes facts, like what we are getting from Wikileaks. Needs better coverage is all.
 
 
+8 # Pikewich 2011-09-03 11:16
Oh, yeah. The Pentagon Papers. Remember them?
 
 
+35 # propsguy 2011-09-02 13:15
of course, we didn't do it and we can't control our military forces. but sadly, we have turned a blind eye handed over to the government a blank check in the name of so called defense against real or imagined "enemies."
there
as 8% of the population using 25% of the world's resources, our nation must be constantly at war to keep us in oil. our secret forces are behind every dictatorship or coop that you can think of.
then we are surprised when an attack comes from"nowhere." we say "they hate us for our freedom" but in fact, they hate us for our interference.
this military monster will one day be used against us here at home. you can count on it
 
 
+45 # fredboy 2011-09-02 13:18
Put simply, this was a sadistic attempt at extermination.

Tell me again how we went into that nation to help the people.

Say it one more time...
 
 
-46 # Joeconserve 2011-09-02 14:02
You wouldn't understand.
 
 
+17 # in deo veritas 2011-09-02 15:32
Really? Why don't you try to explain what we did and are still doing? Try to justify wanton murder! This country has a lot to answer for and atrocities like this, while covered up on earth cannot be hidden from the ONE who judges us all. To believe otherwise is moral suicide.
 
 
-30 # Joeconserve 2011-09-02 17:19
The article was talking about one incident back in 2006 and then wanting to extrapolate it to describe what our military always does. Such naiveté does not help anyone understand the failure of one atrocious occurrence...if it really happened. Such articles are designed to incite the reader not to provide a factual picture.
 
 
+11 # josephhill 2011-09-02 21:03
War is brutal. Participating in one does something to the mind. The old men act as cheerleaders while the young men and women pay with their lives...or with the horrific emotional damage that causes PTSD.

I wish the old bast**ds who glorify war would look at what they're doing when they whip up the blood lust and jingoism of young people who will then be made eager to kill on command.

Of course, war IS good for business...
 
 
+12 # genierae 2011-09-03 09:52
Well said, sir. When my son finished boot camp he seemed to be in a trance-like condition. It was like they had taken away all that made him human and turned him into a robot, primed to obey every order. Fortunately he was not involved in war and so his brainwashing dissipated after he got out. Those who believe the above incident is rare, need to wake up. This is the way things are done in war, and always has been. Rich man's war, poor man's fight, and only when enough Americans wake up to the reality of what is really going on, will we see an end to the madness.
 
 
+11 # reiverpacific 2011-09-03 06:51
Quoting
The article was talking about one incident back in 2006 and then wanting to extrapolate it to describe what our military always does. Such naiveté does not help anyone understand the failure of one atrocious occurrence...if it really happened. Such articles are designed to incite the reader not to provide a factual picture.

Good ol' "Joeconserve", predictable as ever! You who talk about the "real world" seem to fabricate your own and make too many assumptions, which are themselves inflammatory!
I attend meetings of Veterans for Peace and there are some real hard-cases there who were broken by things they were expected to to do and would remain broken without the help and counseling of their comrades.
You might try going to one of these gatherings (they are all over the country) and tell them the smug and self-aggrandizing tripe you just posted on RSN, or as you lower your flag (a gesture of unreality in itself), think on what it really means.
This country is NOT free while the military and multi-nationals run it to dominate the world, and is closer to Franco's Spain, Suharto's Indonesia or Stroessner's Paraguay -all of which I lived in, than what it claims to be.
And if all you can do is be patronizing at the good folks of RSN why don't you desist unless you can find some truth to share. FOX would welcome you.
 
 
+1 # RagingLiberal 2011-09-04 20:13
Here ya go Joe, take a look at the effects of the tons of Depleted Uranium we have showered Afghanistan with, and Tell me how THESE FACTS stack up for you. Then go ahead and tell us how unfair articles like this really are!
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2412#.TmG-YMQoL7F.facebook
 
 
+8 # Billy Bob 2011-09-02 17:41
It's difficult enough to understand a lie, but even harder when the lie isn't even consistent.
 
 
+22 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-02 18:29
Many of my friends, others came back from Viet Nam with toe tags even though they were breathing. By the time I was thirty they all killed themselves, they had horrific nightmares, most could not condone what they did. Others who lived are not in quality of life nor their partners, they have drank or drugged their consciousness.
I may have not been there, but when you are raised by good parents, good faith, good educators You cannot accept murdering innocents.
The excuse they were told that these people would have killed them, that whores were killing their buddies...were in most part lies. We had no business in any of these Countries, and cannot justify murdering innocents.
 
 
+39 # Sully747 2011-09-02 13:21
Pressure on the military personnel during the Vietnam helped turn the military (rank and file) against the war. All the demonstrations on the streets of US cities would not convince Nixon to end the war. When ground troops and airman started to refuse to fight there was no choice but to get out of Vietnam… When the US military turns against the Iraq and Afghanistan wars,.. those wars will end.
 
 
-1 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-02 18:32
The children, the educators, churches are not teaching the Lord's way. They are being raised with no conscience and will one day wear the suits that will kill their own.
Programming. We here are good militants but when the Muslims et al come, they will not know us from them
 
 
0 # Fight the Reich 2012-01-05 12:53
Sully, you hit the nail square on the head. But major problems today vs the vietnam era is that the MIC / Amairka Inc brainwashing propaganda machine has become evermore large & high-tech psy-ops sophisticated since media deregulation for that very purpose during the R. Raygun administration, whereby a vast amount of media was bought up by MIC puppet fronts to ad-lib in unison from MIC brainwashing scripts; So the time it takes our dear Soldiers to wake up leaves the MIC time to run their wars with fresh young meat to accomplish the MIC's vulgar $$$$$ purposes. Compounding that is the large number of Reich-minded mercenaries used to offset declining military enlistment & reenlistment, and to circumvent military & Int'l Law and behavioral & financial accountability, and to funnel the Reich-minded into an unaccountable paramilitary force. Add the NDAA to the Reich's tightening noose and MANY more people can see the purpose of Blackwater mercenaries immediately showing up for the New Orleans / Katrina ethnic & real estate cleansing lock down. Plus the MIC has now equipped ($$$$$ profiteering), and their mercenaries trained (brainwashed), most of our civilian police forces. The MIC / Amairka Inc has truely become the fascist Fourth Reich their kind have been incessantly developing since the early 1900's, particularly since WWII when the MIC gained so much covert power they hated to lose at the end of WWII; Quite exactly what Eisenhower warned us about.
 
 
+25 # giraffee2012 2011-09-02 13:24
Who is going to prosecute these Brown-shirt soldiers? Their names are probably "Jones, Smith, Perry, Romney, and names you can spell" -= It is unlikely they are all black/brown (which would = Texas style- indicate guilty)

We live in a white supremist country run by the big corporations (thanks to the Supremes giving Koch brothers - etc - personhood to corporations)

I can agree with most of what the top comment said until I read "Black/Browns" in Texas get put to death quickly. That is a problem for me. Isn't the statement telling me the TX (and other states) can legally hang African Americans In CA, the war on drugs targets the African Americans while the whites aren't in jail for similar crimes.

The author's inclusion of ALL of us in the crime is that we are Americans and the actions of our soldiers (& commanders) reflects on us too. In the 70's, at least, people protested the Vietnam war instead of doing NOTHING.

I'm not African American but I know they are prosecuted unfairly in TX and other states in the USA. Next it will be the Gypsies, then the Jews, and when they come for YOU - there will be nobody to stand up for you.
 
 
+17 # in deo veritas 2011-09-02 15:38
You are absolutely correct because when the smoke screen generated by the corrupt media clears away we will find ourselves in a recincarnation of Nazi Germany. Thank God there were people in this country during the Vietnam fiasco that had the moral fiber to demonstrate and risk jail or death to oppose evil incarnate. The people of this country will live to regret their cowardice at this perilous and disgraceful time for America
 
 
+28 # Susan W 2011-09-02 13:35
So this nation recruits these sub humans, teaches them the finer points of killing, equips them with the tools of the trade, sends them off on their own to "get the enemy", reveres them as heroes then covers it up when atrocities happen. What a bunch of hypocritical BS.

Don't blame it on me! The ones to blame are all the war-mongers from the President on down. Call them out to account for these crimes against humanity since they are the only ones who can stop the killing by stopping these wars.
 
 
+18 # in deo veritas 2011-09-02 15:43
Great training opportunities! STart killing "over there" and then bring them back to use against those over here who stand up to the increasingly fascist takeover of states like WI, MI, Az, etc.and then the country as a whole? Is that what this is all about? Think about it. Neither of the quagmires the Bushies got us into was ever intended to defend this country.
 
 
+15 # Erdajean 2011-09-02 17:04
No, they don't recruit sub-humans. They recruit kids who have no foundation in being an American -- or a child of a loving God -- except what they learn from video games and Blow 'Em ALL Up picture shows. Too many even learn in Sunday School that God loves ONLY those who sing from their same hymn book and all others are good for target practice. In boot camp they learn to do what they are told -- from officers who do what they are told by commanders who take THEIR orders -- (a la Colin Powell) -- from whatever criminal, self-serving dick-heads the citizenry -- or Diebold -- has put at the top of this pathetic money-mad country. I have one over there now -- and I know too well that he may be ordered to shoot his own family, some day. Much as I detest this idea, Marc is right -- if we are not in the street with our pitchforks and two-by-fours -- getting mowed down by these hapless kids -- we are responsible for whatever this country does. And that knowledge is killing our souls.
 
 
+2 # RagingLiberal 2011-09-04 19:24
Susan and Erda, You are both wrong! The complete mental destruction takes place in boot camp, regardless of the skin color, IQ, or religion. The problem is NOT with the soldiers, it is with the system. They took my son, of white skin, high IQ, strong family with military service history, and strongly Christian background, tore him to sub-human, and rebuilt him a killer drone. HE came home from Afghanistan a broken man, injured, afraid, and permanently drunk. He was 18 when he went in, with his life ahead of him. I begged him to reconsider, as America was already at war with Iraq, but he deeply believed it was his DUTY to serve his country. THEY only had him for 6 years. He was 24 when they sent him home, dead inside, from the horrors he had seen, and been part of. The sickness comes from the TOP. This is one case where the "trickle down" theory is applicable, they tear down good, strong boys to create monsters.
 
 
+34 # wwway 2011-09-02 13:39
No way am I taking blame for this. That belongs to the NRA and war mongers every where. I didn't support the blundering wars because, as I suspected, cutting taxes on the rich and putting massive scale war on the credit card was planned so that Republiteas would argue that we can't afford health care, social secuirty, medicare....
 
 
+6 # josephhill 2011-09-02 21:18
Quoting
No way am I taking blame for this. That belongs to the NRA and war mongers every where. I didn't support the blundering wars because, as I suspected, cutting taxes on the rich and putting massive scale war on the credit card was planned so that Republiteas would argue that we can't afford health care, social secuirty, medicare....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
BINGO, wwway, you have explained, in a nutshell, the 'casus belli' of this shameful misadventure. The motive was to do what Grover Norquist threatened to do to "our" government.
 
 
+13 # mjc 2011-09-02 13:40
If anyone reading this is an Amerian then that person is as guilty as all of the rest of us. We aren't letting our government know that we won't stand for such brutal behavior in the name of "defending America" or "attacking the terrorists...from 5 months up...to keep them from attacking us at home (USof A)
 
 
+31 # walt 2011-09-02 13:40
We have shamed ourselves as a nation in misusing our military as we have done for the last ten years. Sadly, we seem to embraced killing as our foreign policy, drone attacks and all!
There must be an investigation into this. And while we are at it, how about investigating Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld???
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-02 18:43
Longer than that..much longer
 
 
+27 # bkath 2011-09-02 13:54
This article begins to express my anger at what our country has been doing. Am I also responsible? Yes, to the extent that I'm not doing everything I can to bring the bastards that instigated all these wars to justice. NOT ONE of the countries that we have been destroying was a serious threat to us.
 
 
+27 # Sully747 2011-09-02 13:58
Put the blame where it should be..

"He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." Albert Einstein
 
 
+26 # Sully747 2011-09-02 14:07
To anyone reading these comments here is should be abundantly clear that the corporate representatives we send to Washington , the State dept., and the Pentagon are completely at odds with the American people….
 
 
+21 # Isar 2011-09-02 14:12
Wars make monsters. The purpose of the military of any country is to teach young men and women to kill the "enemey." All armies have the right to kill without penalty. Remember the Nuremburg Trials when the Nazi criminals had the same excuse: "I was following orders. I had no choice because I was a soldier serving my country." How any soldier can murder innocent people is beyond my comprehension, but it happens in war. It is happening right now. I fear that someday it will happen right here on our own soil, and when it does, the 911 tragedy in New York will pale by comparison. WHEN will we stop listening to the war mongers in our society? WHEN will we stand together against our government and say simply, "NO MORE KILLING?" I'm sorry to say we are to blame for any killing that goes on under the guise of "military action." We should have protested the Iraq War and found some way of stopping Bush and Cheney's private, profit-making military action. We should be demanding a stop to the killing in Afghanistan. However, we carry on, using the same thinking we have used for the past two hundred years. Shame on us.
 
 
+30 # theherbalist 2011-09-02 14:55
Some of us did protest the Iraq War. However, the big differences between the Vietnam Era (and the Civil Rights Movement before and the Women's Movement after--I was in the forefront of all those protests) is the absence/compliance of the mainstream media. It's damn near impossible to grow a movement if nobody knows it's going on.
 
 
+13 # Erdajean 2011-09-02 17:17
And THIS is the truth. Our ruin began with the corporatization of the PRESS. To whom will people go NOW, to learn what we need to know? To media owned by Greed, Inc.? Thank God for WikiLeaks and the better side of the Internet. Still, every public place has a TV blaring FOX --
 
 
+5 # genierae 2011-09-03 10:08
theherbalist: I think that a bigger difference is that there's no draft now. When college kids in the Vietnam era saw that they might have to spill their blood in a foreign land, they were horrified, and hit the streets en masse, dealing the war effort a fatal blow. Rich kids get a lot more attention than poor ones.
 
 
+15 # theherbalist 2011-09-02 15:14
The other reason is the absence of large numbers of young people who used to have the time,energy and the knowledge from civic classes to travel to DC to protest. Today because of the increases in tuition, most kids either work and don't have the time, are clueless about the necessity of participating in a democracy, or, as a professor I know told me, they're all in Business School and think they're going to make a million $. This spring I saw a license plate in a univ. parking lot that said GOT MINE. How disgusting is that? It's not true of all of them, of course, but back in the day, there may have been only a few real activists, but the majority of kids would go along to the big protests.

I took a women's studies class this past year to see what it looked like today, especially with the Right's War on Women. Frankly, I was appalled at the apathy. I, at 70, had more passion than anyone, including the professor. Times have changed.
 
 
+8 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-02 18:52
Amen

Children have been programmed to want things, things cost money, jobs at all cost is money
We have created the Science Fiction we watched. Or allowed Corporations and Government/Military to. We are no better than the Russia, Germany we supposedly freed. We are no better than china, Korea or any other Militant Government

Parents for 35 years have worked themselves into the 'Stuff' Generation they are now advanced Robot Yuppies and will be the Planet's demise.

Where will anyone in 10/15 years be with no clean air, water? Remember those films? the rich lived in Bubbles...but if they build the bubbles like everything they build today...they will also face one force bigger than all Mother Nature!
 
 
+7 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-02 18:47
Most of us who protested Nam have continued against War, Pro environment, Pro Wildlife...only in the past 12 years have so many laws been destroyed and worst is yet to come.
Military Government Bombs should be obsolete with this generation yet we are in a Nazii development because we allowed
Power Greed Bad Faith to take over.
 
 
+6 # William Bjornson 2011-09-03 11:01
Yes, Isar, many LIES and hypocracies were on display and grew out of the Nuremburg kangaroo courts which are still being beaten upon us by the wormtongues of the rich. In 1946, during these political theatrics, the United States Public Health Service was deliberately infecting hundreds of people in Central America with various sexually transmitted organisms:

http://www.hhs.gov/1946inoculationstudy/cdc_rept-std_inoc_study.html

and the Tuskegee Syphillus study was in full swing. Mengale was condemned, these USPHS folks just went on with their careers.

Most White people have difficulty reading history because of the massive denial automatically invoked in their brains when the reality of our casual and habitual barbaric cruelty starts to become clear and butts into the faerie tale race-image given to us as children. bush, cheny, rumsfeld were just tools. Ever notice what Iraq and Afghanistan bookend? And who stands to gain the most from destroying what is in between? There is your motivation for these wars. The rest, the oil, minerals is just gravy. We only need to thoroughly delouse America and we can go back to simply being the chronic assholes we have always been rather than this acute state we now find ourselves in. I would also like to suggest that NO PERSON who has earned a combat ribbon EVER be allowed to be a police officer here.
 
 
+19 # KittyHawk11 2011-09-02 14:47
Yes, when we stand idly by and believe everything that we are told in the news about rebel countries or rebel despots, and not question it--we are all guilty. Each time this country desires another country's oil and precious commodities, a war is instigated and a 'march' to kill that country's leader, if he resists. Public opinion is crucial to these demons at the top, and must precede the taking out of another country's leader. One must be made to believe that he (such as Quadafi of Libya) is a terrible despot and cruel to his people, in order to get the support of puppet Americans (sheeple, who are consistently being dummied down to accept whatever they are told) who give their silent consent, and then go back to business as usual--that is--until war comes to their shores!
 
 
+12 # utugi54 2011-09-02 14:59
Were they US Forces or our overpaid independent contractors??? Mercenaries!!
 
 
+8 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-02 18:53
Matters not if they are on USA Payroll they reflect on us Military, Coporations, government has no care...too stupid or egotistical to think anyone will get us.

He who laughs last...
 
 
-23 # Joeconserve 2011-09-02 15:45
I was getting ready to make a comment about the naive childish comments made so far but sunset was approaching indicating it was time to lower the flag. As I was lowering the flag it occurred to me that isn't it great that America as a culture allows all manner of views from the thoughtful to those who haven't a clue about life in the real world. Most of the current comments, so far, show a misunderstandin g human nature as it has evolved since recorded history.
 
 
+7 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-02 18:55
Hope this is still running in ten years when you are gasping for air
 
 
+18 # in deo veritas 2011-09-02 15:55
We must realize that this atrocity is likely only the "tip of the iceberg". What will it take for the American people to realize that they are living in the presence of a consummate evil from within rather than from foreign shores? The time is coming when all will be judged and punished for the misdeeds of a relative few unless those responsible are held accountable by some earthly authority. The guilt goes all the way to the top of the chain of command per international law (which this country chooses to ignore).
 
 
+14 # DPM 2011-09-02 16:29
There is no excuse for this event. NONE. But there may be a reason. I repeat, may. When you have a military deployed, time after time, after time into engagements that bear no resemblance to the "righteousness" of WWII, eventually the weaker or more sadistic will show themselves in this manner.
With many entering the military just because there is no work at home, eventually some will take out their frustrations on innocent people. Maybe in a war zone or maybe here when they return home. Perhaps it is time we got out of places we don't belong and got our youth working at home. We have no reason to be fighting these wars, only excuses. Bring our people home.
 
 
+6 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-02 18:59
No we keep giving excuses, reasons..time to stop and face the mirror, look deep.

May not want our people home, if they can kill 5 mos old they will be able to kill anyone

Lets go to the Church on Sunday and read about Thou Shalt Not Kill...we kill everything that moves Today the Idaho morons went up in planes to annihilate Wolves for fear of WMD in the Dens!

OBama has left Bush regs on Pollution in effect, taking EPA down some more from his Office. They now have no help so I guess they are going down
 
 
+6 # genierae 2011-09-03 10:20
The "church on Sunday" is not necessary in order to be a loving, compassionate human being. The human heart, in its amazing capacity, has all the resources needed to realize our highest potential. This is what Jesus meant when he said, "Why do you look without, for that which is within you." We must let go of organized religion and search our hearts for the treasure that is there in abundance.
 
 
+8 # reiverpacific 2011-09-02 17:17
Perhaps this points at why so many come back from war crippled mentally if not physically. The disillusionment with the Bush-Coward-Era wars is more and more apparent and yet Cheyney, Rice and Rumsfeld stick their chinless-chins out and continue the rationalization of it all.
Look at the proportion of the shallow-twit-administration's record of non-military service and see what they they have wrought!
And the likes of Oliver North is getting fat and rich with War Stories", or was.
Until MINDLESS MILITARY-WORSHIP is stopped in it's tracks, and average kids are educated out of being cannon-fodder for the Imperial war-machine, which is one of the few "things' of any substance that the US makes any more, we will witness escalations of atrocities like this and worse, which is a default setting for the "fruits" of conflict since time beyond mind, where young, mostly immature people are put in life-stress situations they don't understand and trained not to question their actions and any consequences.
It needs to start at the most basic educational level and INCLUDE addressing those with genetically-based violent tendencies in creative and productive ways instead of fostering and unleashing them on those in the path of empire.
B.t.w., the new (Private consultant) armies are made up of the scum of the earth, culled from former Fascist death squads.
 
 
+7 # barryg 2011-09-02 19:08
I am a Vietnam vet. The primary job of the military is to scare the population into submission through the murder of civilians. Killing soldiers is secondary. Joeconserve , did you go to Nam or Iraq or any other war and participate as a combat soldier?

The military has worked hard to learn how to train people to kill. And to dehumanize soldiers enough to kill even here. That is why we do not have a draft. soldiers rose up and stopped fighting in Vietnam because they were drafted, not professionals.
 
 
+7 # antineocon 2011-09-03 10:19
this is right on the mark. we have a mercenary army wh o will even kill americans and think they are saving us.
 
 
+7 # Dion Giles 2011-09-02 19:17
Blanket condemnation of war isn’t an answer. If the Viet Cong and the NVA hadn’t fought a war the rape of their country, with its attendant My Lais, would have continued. They are worth commemorating and honouring. Likewise the millions of American, British, Australian, Russian, European, Asian heroes who fought the Axis aggressors are deserving of honour as unbounded as the contempt earned by all those, from Hitler and Hirohito down to the front line soldiers, who jackbooted their way into countries that had attacked nobody. ANYTHING done to further a dishonourable cause is a dishonourable act, even if “it vos orders”. It is a most appalling injustice to conflate aggressors with those fighting to resist and expel them. This even though both use the weapons of war. Although the crimes committed by the Germans in Poland [1] dwarf those committed by the Coalition of the Lying in Iraq the basic offence is the same - attacking and occupying by force a country that is at peace. In Poland it led to world war. In Iraq it set the stage and the mindset for the disgusting acts described in Marc Ash’s article which are a consequence not of war but of aggression.

[1] See http://felsztyn.tripod.com/germaninvasion/ and think hard about the ugly face of aggression especially when it is emboldened by a belief (inevitably false) in racial superiority.
 
 
+10 # angelfish 2011-09-02 19:31
WHERE is ANY Accountability? The Obama Administration has turned a Blind Eye to the Murderous behavior of SOME of the soldiers and Other Players in the Bush /Cheney Regime. Justice, we know is BLIND, BUT Good God DAMN it, she is NOT also Deaf and Dumb! Mr. President! For the Love of Humanity, Do your DUTY and at the very LEAST, let there be an Inquiry, or a Special Prosecutor named to INVESTIGATE these crimes. It has been done before during the Viet Nam Misadventure. A few offenders' crimes, FAR from ALL responsible for some of the genocide that took place THERE, was addressed. WHY are THESE criminals any less deserving of SCRUTINY? Let "dick" Cheney and the "shrub" (Thank You, Mollie Ivins!) stand up in front of the World as well as the United States and plead their Case in a Court of LAW! The Blood of those INANELY Maimed and Killed cries out for JUSTICE! World War II's War Criminals were tried by a Military Tribunal and found WANTING. Ceaucescu paid the ultimate price for HIS crimes, at the the very least, it is only fair that OUR Criminals be made to ACCOUNT for their Policies that were Blatantly Murderous, Illegal and Dishonorable! HOW can we remain TRUE to ourselves as Americans and Human Beings if we don"t?
 
 
+5 # futhark 2011-09-02 20:02
Are war crimes prosecutions only for those who have been militarily defeated or do the "rules of war" apply to the victors as well? The lack of investigation and prosecution of alleged war crimes by officials of the American military bring into serious question the legitimacy of claims that Americans operate as agents of liberty, democracy, and justice. Does the military position of individuals in combat determine whether or not they can be held accountable for their actions? If it does, then the whole concept of "war crimes" loses any logical legitimacy.
 
 
+5 # cynnibunny 2011-09-02 21:20
The commenter has invoked a false pretense of shared guilt. He states:

"....that it can happen at all taints indelibly and irrevocably not only every American soldier, but every American. I was there. You were there. We were there. I am, you are, we are guilty, too."

No Mr. Ash. I was not there. I and countless disenfranchised Americans - disenfranchised from healthcare, regular employment and benefits, as well as the kind of education that the rich and upper-middle-class liberals who read RSN - were not in fact there at this heinous episode. The issue is not that 'America' did this. The military in control, and the policy-makers that sanction that military - THEY ARE GUILTY!
 
 
+1 # karenvista 2011-09-05 17:47
Quoting
No Mr. Ash. I was not there. I and countless disenfranchised Americans - disenfranchised from healthcare, regular employment and benefits, as well as the kind of education that the rich and upper-middle-class liberals who read RSN


You are right that the rich are educated to lead and the upper middle-class are educated to be the executors of their policies and financial scams but you are mistaken to think that the readers of RSN are of the same class and education as those you describe.

As long as they still allow us to read we can and will educate ourselves. We don't have to have a Harvard Law degree to know when something is illegal or unconstitutiona l. We have brains and they aren't handed out on a class basis-as is evidenced by George W. Bush.

I find it extraordinary that you think we are them. If we were we'd be class traitors. If you are that mistaken, then who are you?

Like a number of people on this site I protested Vietnam and Iraq though the media paid no attention to the millions of people who protested the Iraq war.

And yes, if you don't fight your government's evil policies and at least attempt to make your voice of opposition heard, you are guilty. You are guilty of complicity in the wars our evil leaders perpetrate on innocent people.
 
 
+8 # Western_Sage 2011-09-02 22:24
As a U.S. combat veteran and infantry squad leader in Vietnam and Cambodia I understand the sadness, frustration and anger that stir in a constantly boiling soup of tension, stress and exhaustion in a war that isn't always black and white. With this in mind, I have to say unequivocally that there is NEVER any excuse for this kind of behavior by military personnel of any nation. The people responsible for this atrocity MUST be brought to justice... starting with the field commanders and including every non-commissioned officer and enlisted person involved.
 
 
+3 # Helgaofthemountains 2011-09-02 22:27
Must be something in corn products, or Roundup!
 
 
+7 # antineocon 2011-09-03 06:47
Vietnam was different. We had a draft in t hose days, and not a "professional army" what we have now is people in kthe military who want to fight, but in vietnam we had people who wanted to be home with family. there is no comparison and that is why we have hired killers and secret forces to exterminate anyone the president of the USA says. this is too much we musttake our country back from the legacy of Bush and Cheney. god help us
 
 
+2 # cabotool 2011-09-03 09:50
I have a scary prediction. It is based on ~73 years of observation with an education of 8 years at Stanford University, 10 years as a staff scientist at Motorola Semiconductor products in Phoenix and another 41 years as a farmer with my hands in the dirt.

People speak of a spaceship to escape to another planet. THAT is not going to happen. There is already a very safe location for the billionaires and their sycophants running our country.

Look at the world on Google Earth for the one location that is the furthest from any land mass. The Hawaiian islands. The islands can be self sufficient in food and energy. They were before they were seized by the USA in the 1800s.

The billionaires and their sycophants will move to the islands. Anyone who is young and strong will be tolerated. Anyone who can produce food and solve energy problems will be needed.

Those people who permitted what is described above can do anything. Everyone on the islands who cannot serve as slaves to the new residents of the islands will be eliminated.

I fit the requirements for producing food AND solving energy problems. I will only work for "them" if my family and close friends are included with me. It is impossible to make a create person into a slave.
 
 
+3 # gfelder 2011-09-03 16:44
You could think of this as being part of the benefits of our grand technology as how wonderful our fine weapon KILL, but don't want the public to review the insane behaviour of the actors. The gutless press would prefer to be in-bedded ( or in bed) with the lawful criminals but the military wants no leaks from our fine technology. That would disturb the passive consumers of this mindless MURDER in our name.
 
 
+4 # reiverpacific 2011-09-03 18:50
To "Cabotool". With greatest respect for your education, you might want to consult the islanders about your contention. They, like their American Indian brothers and sisters, have already survived attempted genocide and just need to get rid of the Mormons and the US military bases to regain their Islands -and there is already a strong movement afoot in this respect.
The mainland tribes, through their elders and visionaries, have predicted for many years that the "Wasichu" ways will destroy their very perpetrators due to spiritual bankruptcy and it looks like it is far down that well-greased imperialist path already.
So I wouldn't look on the Hawaiian Islands as a pushover for the last elite refuge, or perhaps we could analogize it with the Hitlerian bunker, as they are recovering from the shock of what has been done to them and seeking redress in the most profound way.
May I respectfully refer you to a book entitled "In the Absence of the Sacred" by Gerry Mander (real name on the jacket, no kiddin'). He does a good job of explaining what I've just made a case for.
 
 
+2 # Robyn 2011-09-03 21:50
What these men did was sick and evil. To mindlessly slaughter civillians. Old women and children. The thought of a five year old child, a three year old, a five month old baby being bound and gagged, then shot in the head. This was an act of cowadice, this was an act that demeans us all.
I know that these men will not be brought to justice. America will protect them as they have protected all their war criminals. But the rest of the world knows and looks on in disgust.
 
 
0 # gfelder 2011-09-05 15:37
They walk among US. Yet we get to pay and attempt to to bring them from the mental illness that been created by the madness of this Nation. Yet to wonder whether WE might be Next. When ordered do you think they will care if us or the others never know to us.
 

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