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Marc Ash writes: "Last night's 2012 State of the Union address was most significant in that President Obama was kind enough to send fairly clear signals about where he intends to go. We have a road map. So that's a start."

President Barack Obama greets Speaker of the House Rep. John Boehner prior to delivering the 2012 State of the Union address on Capitol Hill, 01/24/12. (photo: Getty Images)
President Barack Obama greets Speaker of the House Rep. John Boehner prior to delivering the 2012 State of the Union address on Capitol Hill, 01/24/12. (photo: Getty Images)



Obama's Words

By Marc Ash, Reader Supported News

25 January 12

Reader Supported News | Perspective

 

ast night's 2012 State of the Union address was most significant in that President Obama was kind enough to send fairly clear signals about where he intends to go. We have a road map. So that's a start.

If you were looking for social responsibility, Obama's comments on labor, trade, taxes, regulation of financial institutions, consumer protection, and education were on point rhetorically. Be aware that every time he said to the members of Congress, "If you send me a bill ... I will sign it," that statement incorporates the word "if," so that may not qualify as a plan of action.

The "other" side of Obama, however, was in attendance as well, and that President Obama appeared to drag some pretty substantial compromises with him to the podium.

Trouble on the Environmental Front

In the face of real community concern about allowing Hydraulic Fracturing, commonly known as "fracking," as a method for extracting natural gas, Obama seemed remarkably detached. He touted natural-gas extraction as the greatest thing since the Hoover Dam and pointed to a 100-year supply as justification.

Yes, he also touched on "green themes," renewable energy, fuel efficiency and all of that. But the environmentally responsible remarks were overshadowed by Obama's enthusiastic embrace of natural gas exploration "on public lands." That might easily equate to fracking in the nation's national parks and most cherished wild places.

Obama addressed environmental concerns about fracking only in a non-specific reference to mandating that energy companies involved in gas exploration be forced to "disclose the chemicals they use." Such information could be useful in constructing an epitaph for the North American ecosystem, but it's a poor substitute for protecting and conserving.

On the Warpath?

Big concern were Obama's remarks on Iran, both for their gratuitous bravado and conspicuous lack of understanding. Not much daylight there between Bush and Obama's logic, or oratory. Obama's a bit more reserved than his predecessor about initiating large-scale US military intervention in the affairs of other nations - so far - but if he makes the wrong call on Iran nothing he's done to date will matter.

On the whole it kind of sounds like he means well, but he's trying to please all the members of Congress all the time.

So much for Obama the realist.

 


Marc Ash was formerly the founder and Executive Director of Truthout, and is now founder and Editor of Reader Supported News.

Reader Supported News is the Publication of Origin for this work. Permission to republish is freely granted with credit and a link back to Reader Supported News.

 

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+40 # Inland Jim 2012-01-25 13:44
As someone wrote on another blog earlier today: "Obama '08 is back! Obama '09 returns next January."
 
 
+25 # Barkingcarpet 2012-01-25 16:46
Agreed. Words, words, and so many words. What we need is leadership and change, and not more of the same bullshit. At the end of it, it is us all, consuming away blindly, and going for the cheapest products.
We need sane policy, based upon rebuilding and creating a living nature, and not policy based on the rape and pillage of nature for short sighted and short term $ profits.
Yes, WE can, so lets. Anything less than a total overhaul, and soon, is just racing into ecological disaster.
 
 
+6 # NanFan 2012-01-26 03:43
Every time President Obama pointed his finger and said, "If you send me a bill...I will sign it!" it was a promise that I, for one, vow to hold him to or he does not deserve my vote. And I had to think...haven't we heard this before? Oh ya, it was the "I'm gonna veto" moment(s) when what he was going to veto mattered immensely to the protection of our citizens' and the world's citizens' rights.

Personal note to President Obama: BE a president and ACT on those promises, as you say you will. Or...just get out of the way, because we don't have time for the nonsense. And we all will remember what you promised to pass if it crosses your desk. It is your DUTY as a president to follow through: to speak and act with utmost honesty, to work hard to protect the people you SERVE.

Will the real Obama PLEASE stand up?
 
 
-2 # John Locke 2012-01-26 14:44
Inland Jim: When Obama was elected he had a mandate that was very strong, we sent him to Washington in control of Both houses of Congress...he was such a poor President and inefectual "leader" that mid term (2010) he lost that control. If obama 08 is back and he is reelected, we are in for deep trouble, he lied to us then, so he must be lying to us again...People DO NOT CHANGE...
 
 
-10 # bugbuster 2012-01-25 13:57
Barack Obama takes his place among the best Presidents in our history, that is, one who has left everyone dissatisfied. That is exactly how democracy is supposed to work.

As soon as one side is completely happy and the other side isn't, you know the country is in deep trouble.
 
 
+39 # Observer 47 2012-01-25 16:35
Pure sophistry. The worst President in history would leave everyone dissatisfied as well. Also, as many have pointed out, the "sides" aren't equal here. I'm dissatisfied because Obama has abandoned the middle class, bailed out the Wall Street banksters, sent troops into Libya and Yemen in contravention of the Constitution, shown virtually no concern about the environment, etc., etc., etc. The representatives of the other side are dissatisfied because they don't yet have every last dime on the planet.
 
 
+2 # John Locke 2012-01-26 18:05
Observer 47: keep in mind when a puppet is talking it isn't his words we hear but the pupper master.
 
 
-1 # Doubter 2012-01-26 19:50
Sock Puppet
 
 
+11 # Erdajean 2012-01-25 14:04
So, in real terms, we have been thrown enough bones to make a hairy mammoth's skeleton, with just about as much meat on them as they'd have, on display in a museum.
The other thing we've been given is perfect assurance that Mr, Obama is NOT going to oppose or in any way slight Big Oil -- and is not encouraging Congress to do so, either. He seems to have weighed his choices and decided to give, a little, by threatening Big Finance -- but threat does not necessarily mean action, in Obama History.
Not meaning to be grouchy or cynical, it just don't seem like there was any more substance to last night's oration than the usual Obama Medicine Show pitches. Just a little more fervent, maybe -- it IS an election year....
 
 
-6 # KittatinyHawk 2012-01-25 16:23
What fuel do you use? Car Home? when no one uses any oil....than let's talk not stepping on oil toes, eh?

Yes it is election year so yes we expect the closet to open and all the creatures to come out.

But at least he had some good ratios, fractions and numbers to possibly have those tottering to start questioning, yeah what are we gonna do with the money from Military, yea we do need better roads. I road with Republicans today who liked what they heard so he needs pressure...from everyone or perhaps he will continue like others knowing nobody does anything about anything. What do you do?
 
 
+18 # BenECoyote 2012-01-25 14:34
Obama is doubtless a gifted speaker, but we've heard his tripe before. Then he sold out his base: Guantanamo. The Bush/Obama tax cuts for the rich. Continuing the policy of torture, and refusing to punish those who commit torture in the name of 'security'. The indefinite detention of American Citizens that he's been trying to get since 2009. Refusing to regulate safety at off shore oil wells and nuclear power plants despite disasters in each field which have proven how unsafe current practices are... etc. etc. etc.
Obama has proven time and time again that he is neither a man of his word nor a man of the people.
On the other hand, there is a candidate that understands that the problems on main street stem from wall street, and the money that wall street has used to buy our government. That man is Rocky Anderson, the progressive former mayor of Salt Lake City.
Rocky Anderson supports universal health care as a basic right, supports equal marriage rights for all people, and was able to not only meet the kyoto protocols for Salt Lake City, but to beat them by nearly 50%, and this while dubbya was in office and there was a Republican governor.
Talk is cheap. Rocky Anderson has practical, on the ground experience and will act to restore Justice to our troubled country not just talk about change. We can't change our government until we take it back from corporations. Rocky Anderson is the man for the job.
 
 
+18 # juliajayne 2012-01-25 14:34
I found a lot to applaud in the speech, but had some of the same concerns as Mr. Ash. Safe fracking, don't think so, Mr. President. It was a great populist speech though, and I found it uplifting that he "gets" most of what we the people have already gotten for a long time by simple dint of the fact that we've been living it. I do think he put Congress on the spot, which was great! The tell on how good a speech is was will be how apocolyptic the response from the usual suspects is! Lastly, I hope he puts some (all) of the reprobate criminal bankers in jail. Hey, I'm a cock-eyed optimist!
 
 
+14 # Richard Raznikov 2012-01-25 15:44
Ah, Juliajayne, how hope springs eternal! You 'hope he puts some (all) of the...criminal(s)' in the pokey, and hope is a nice thing, but the criminals who belong in prison are the same people who've contributed millions to his campaign. He has brought them into the government. They are his close political friends. He is responding to public anger but the promises are lies. If he wanted to deal with the crook who ruined our economy, he'd have done it three years ago. He's lying.
 
 
+3 # juliajayne 2012-01-25 18:45
Yeah RR, I know. I was mostly being rhetorical for entertainment's sake. Would be nice in an ideal world though, eh?
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-01-25 16:27
In the long run...it is up to the People to prove Fracking wrong before we continue having bad wells...right now you have Dimmock Pa to use before they sign on bottom line...water trucked in. Out west had same but signed away.
President Obama has not read the information and it is time he did because we have bad Governors lying to him. Strange because Democratic Gov in East are not going for it. So pressure could be applied by you, I do my part daily for ten years. I have to live with a Red State of Corruption Pollution...Pa.
 
 
+18 # DPM 2012-01-25 14:52
We've been here before. Sad.
 
 
+22 # davidzah 2012-01-25 14:55
Why fall for the hype? What does this president have to do for one to accept that he doesn't walk the talk? It's another 1% politician that is master of the con. I fell for it myself in the past. But there is absolutely no reason to believe him at this point. But he sure sells a good car doesn't he?!?
 
 
+14 # lcarrier 2012-01-25 15:22
Beware the alternative. If any of the Republican jokers squeak in, the Supreme Court will likely get another Roberts-Scalia-Alito-Thomas clone. Quit bitching and vote for Obama.
 
 
+2 # Doubter 2012-01-26 20:28
Vote for Obama AND bitch.
 
 
+9 # economicminor 2012-01-26 07:38
The alternatives at this point represent Fraud and Greed. No party represents us and no way for a viable third party to organize. What amazes me is the support the front running Republican candidates are getting. We the People are screwed.
 
 
+10 # chinaski 2012-01-25 14:58
When a politician says something what does that mean anymore?
 
 
+24 # Richard Raznikov 2012-01-25 15:04
We already know he's a rhetoritician, but words aren't enough. Word won't feed America's 24 million hungry children, nor restore the life savings Obama's banker friends stole. Words won't bring back to life the people assassinated by special ops teams with Obama-sanctioned death lists. Words won't fix the destruction of U.S. bombs and drones in Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, and throughout Africa. The real unemployment in America is close to 20%. Words won't give these people jobs. Words won't stop outsourcing or the devastation of NAFTA on available work. Words won't alter the tax breaks for billionaires. Words won't force corporations to pay their fair share of taxes instead of hiding the loot in the Cayman Islands.

More and more people all the time are waking up to the fact that this President is all words and no deeds.
 
 
+6 # historywriter 2012-01-25 17:19
Words present our ideas and our visions. They frame our beliefs. "We the people" isn't meaningful? Of course it is. Words can and do lead to action. Words can bring people together in agreement on concepts and actions. Maybe words will alter the tax breaks for millionaires. It's a starting point, if others take it up, as the Occupy people show.
No deeds? Take another look.
 
 
+5 # John Locke 2012-01-25 20:23
historywriter: Thats a generalization, in this case words have been demonstrated to be meaningless. YES Thoughts become words and words become actions when people really mean them...but you have to mean them and not just say what you think people want to hear...
 
 
+4 # economicminor 2012-01-26 07:45
Words are also used to Sell us products. Madison Avenue has hired the best psychologists who have studied human emotion and actions to the point they know just what to say to get you to buy that new car or IPhone or suit of clothes. They also know how to sell elections. Most people have no idea how manipulated they are. It is all about image and crowd behavior. Better to go along and get along than stand out like a sore thumb.
 
 
+1 # diacad 2012-01-25 15:05
Hear Glen Ford of Black Agenda Report lambast Obama's state of the union address:
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7842
 
 
+15 # Henry 2012-01-25 15:11
This ... "Obama addressed environmental concerns about fracking only in a non-specific reference to mandating that energy companies involved in gas exploration be forced to "disclose the chemicals they use." Such information could be useful in constructing an epitaph for the North American ecosystem, but it's a poor substitute for protecting and conserving." ... is so RIGHT ON, Marc.

How many more times will we watch him read NOTHING WITH ANY PASSION and continue to put up with it? Last night's PERFORMANCE (exactly what it was - or not even that, simply a DRY READING) was incredibly disappointing.

I feel sorry for Obama. He has become less than he was, or less than he could have been. And so the world continues downhill.
 
 
+21 # walt 2012-01-25 15:23
Obama made a statement in his address that one of his prized possessions is the flag that was carried on the mission to assassinate Osama Bin Laden. He even said it was signed by all the hit team.

To this observer, those words spoke volumes!
 
 
+7 # Erdajean 2012-01-25 16:56
Boys. what an inspiring message from our President! The "values" of the leadership before us -- whichever party it comes from -- are so POWERFUL it makes me want to jump out of bed, in the morning -- and throw up.
 
 
+12 # reiverpacific 2012-01-25 15:59
I'm sorry folks but I can't handle watchin' the "State of the Union" address any more by it''s very nature and style. It's faux-solemnity and periodic standing orchestrated applause is almost as bad as that toothy blonde biddy on "Wheel of Fortune" clapping her little hands every three seconds like a circus seal -and about as appealing (I have to be aware of W.O.F. if I have a quick drink in a local Redneck bar in my area -it's their favorite show!).
I think that Bush the twit pushed me over the edge and have made a point of avoiding it ever since. Nothing against Ob' -just the whole phony business.
'Scuse the deep cynicism and I accept y'r red "Thumbs down" in advance. Just had to say it.
 
 
+6 # Daveherbs 2012-01-25 16:26
so most of those posting in here are not going to support the president.or not vote or vote for his opponet.

I got don't ask don"t tell and much more. This president did health care, have you read it? It is working.
 
 
+2 # RLF 2012-01-26 05:07
I still don't have heath care...who the hell is it working for? How is the campaign planning going?
 
 
+3 # historywriter 2012-01-26 09:34
Quoting
historywriter: Thats a generalization, in this case words have been demonstrated to be meaningless. YES Thoughts become words and words become actions when people really mean them...but you have to mean them and not just say what you think people want to hear...

Quoting
historywriter: Thats a generalization, in this case words have been demonstrated to be meaningless. YES Thoughts become words and words become actions when people really mean them...but you have to mean them and not just say what you think people want to hear...

Of course you don't. Most of it doesn't take effect until 2014, thanks to the republicans, and thanks to them, it was created so that insurance companies can still cash in. It does not do nearly enough, but in the right atmosphere, it could be a small beginning that leads to real insurance coverage reform.
 
 
-1 # John Locke 2012-01-26 11:29
historywriter: With all due respect, I haven't found one thing Obama has accomplished in his 3 years that were for OUR benefit, Health care as passed was a boon for insurance "not us"... next?
 
 
+1 # Doubter 2012-01-26 20:37
I figured Healthcare was written by/for the industry. Did I suppose wrong?

AND I suppose almost all of us here are going to vote for O, but I hope it doesn't bother you to see us holding our noses.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-01-25 16:34
Whose Job is it
This is a story about four groups of people named Everybody, somebody, anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was asked to do it.
Everybody was sure Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody got angry about that, because it was Everybody's job. Everybody thought Anybody could do
it but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.

So which group is OB in, Dems in, GOP.TP in and You? Because we are all in those groups. Get the Point...start doing something.
 
 
+11 # NRESQ 2012-01-25 17:24
What is it about 'representative democracy' you whiners don't get? You may not have noticed, but Mr. Obama is the President, not the dictator. He has to deal with a hostile House, and a Senate led by a world class obstructionist. Thus, he must take what he can get. The founders of this country wanted power diffused among the branches of government so that one branch did not get too powerful. So, WTF? What would you have him do???? If you can't get 100% of what you want then President Obama has failed you???? That's the equivalent of Republicans saying that since we prevented the President from achieving his goals this President is a failure. GROW UP!!!
 
 
+10 # Richard Raznikov 2012-01-25 18:57
Dear NRESQ: I'm afraid you miss the point. Obama has failed to do things which were and are well within his power. He did not need Congressional authority to let the Bush tax cuts for billionaires expire –– but he renewed them on his own. Congress does not require him to defend Bush spying in court, shut down pot dispensaries, or bomb Libya. And really, learn something about politics: Obama had a workable majority in both houses for two years and did nothing. The "60%" supermajority requirement is a myth. Oh, the GOP would filibuster? Do what other Presidents have done: wait it out, get the country behind you, then pass the legislation. This man is in the pocket of the banks –– look at his appointments. Were did Geithner come from? Summers? Lew? Why did he reappoint Bernanke? How about his naming the GE CEO to head the jobs council? GE made 14 billion, paid zero taxes, and outsourced thousands of jobs. Wake up. I worked in politics for fifty years. I worked for Obama. This isn't whining, buddy, this is facing up the facts.
 
 
+6 # John Locke 2012-01-25 20:27
Richard Raznikov: Very Good, you are right on, I wish everyone would wake up to the fact that no matter how we vote or if we vote, nothing will change but the face that is telling the lies we want to hear...
 
 
-4 # NRESQ 2012-01-25 23:44
Yeah, right, Locke. Wah!!!! Everything's f*ed up, everyone lies to you, life's not fair! Wah, wah, wah.

So what're you gonna do? You say you want a revolution? We're all doing what we can. You go carrying pictures of OWS, it ain't gonna get you laid anyhow...
(All apologies to John Lennon)

GROW UP!!!!
 
 
+4 # John Locke 2012-01-26 07:20
NRESQ: Maybe if you grew up and took a look at the reality of politics it might make a difference. Maybe not? You appear to still be living in your dream world. Knowing that all politicians lie, What do you think is the way to deal with them, just keep voting for who you think is the lessor of the two evils? No appologies! I understand exactly what is going on...And I never said I wanted a Revolution! But, I do believe one is coming!
 
 
+6 # reiverpacific 2012-01-25 19:50
[quote name="NRESQ"]What is it about 'representative democracy' you whiners don't get? You may not have noticed, but Mr. Obama is the President, not the dictator. He has to deal with a hostile House, and a Senate led by a world class obstructionist. Thus, he must take what he can get. The founders of this country wanted power diffused among the branches of government so that one branch did not get too powerful. So, WTF? What would you have him do???? If you can't get 100% of what you want then President Obama has failed you???? That's the equivalent of Republicans saying that since we prevented the President from achieving his goals this President is a failure. GROW UP!
I'm inclined to agree with you and actually like this man superficially as allowed to see. But the means of presentation of what should be a fairly serious occasion, dealing with community-building (or as in recent times, destroying) issues of global consequence and reach instead of a performance carefully stage-managed by the owner media, is my point.
Shakespeare did it much better with deeper conviction, truthfulness and passion:
"That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us -"!
Occupy and solidify en masse -that's all we've got and Ob' will go along if we show him our collective backbones.
 
 
-1 # NRESQ 2012-01-25 23:54
Your last sentence is the only one that is relevant. If you want the President to do more of what you want, then "show him your collective backbones." A lot of what's written on this blog is merely whining that we each put our individual expectations on this guy, most of which are terribly naive, and just can't get over that our wishes didn't come true.

That ain't gonna cut it! Politics is about MAKING IT HAPPEN, not sitting back and expecting it all to work out now that you got your guy in there.

When you all become mature enough, we'd love to have you beside us fighting to make this "a more perfect union." (As opposed to "a perfect union"; see the difference?)
 
 
+2 # reiverpacific 2012-01-26 12:27
Quoting
Your last sentence is the only one that is relevant. If you want the President to do more of what you want, then "show him your collective backbones." A lot of what's written on this blog is merely whining that we each put our individual expectations on this guy, most of which are terribly naive, and just can't get over that our wishes didn't come true.
That ain't gonna cut it! Politics is about MAKING IT HAPPEN, not sitting back and expecting it all to work out now that you got your guy in there.

When you all become mature enough, we'd love to have you beside us fighting to make this "a more perfect union." (As opposed to "a perfect union"; see the difference?)


Fine, show us how, in the face of how you get access to ANY politician tucked inside their offices inside the beltway, let alone a president who has power-wielding jackasses screaming at him from all sides: line up behind the lobbyists shall we.
Instead of y'r patronizing language for a self-assumed lofty "mature" peak give us some ideas in plain English. forgive me if'n I doctored my post up with a bit of "Henry V" -a little habit of mine to lighten things up but also put them in context from a master of the language who lived a long time ago.
Put up yourself or go back, think a bit and "GROW UP" by presenting some ideas in real time and context, not vague references to what could or might be if----!!
C'm'on. give us the foils man!
 
 
-2 # John Locke 2012-01-26 07:34
reiverpacific: The problem with Obama is he lacks leadership qualities, when the president can't even motivate his own party in congress, he is a failure as a leader. I think Clinton (Whom I don't particularly like) was right about Obama lacking experience, we saw this in his negotiations when he offered up SS and Medicare to the republicans, Why? Because they want a military that they can control the whole world with...and their attitude is "your either with us or against us"... thats not just BUSH, that also includes Obama...he offered up seniors safety net... and has protected the Military budget, so far...However, no matter haw you view this character, Obama is not a leader, he is a failure as a president and even as a man! He has NO Backbone, no guts and runs from a fight that include him directly...
 
 
0 # RLF 2012-01-26 05:10
"Mr. Obama is the President, not the dictator"

Try to have a demonstration exactly where you want it ...not around the corner and down the street...then tell me he is not a dictator. And now thanks to him, you can be thrown in Guantanamo with no access to the courts...he's my hero!
 
 
-4 # John Locke 2012-01-26 07:35
RLF: Thank you, good point
 
 
0 # Cassandra2012 2012-01-29 13:52
Remember it was BUSH/CHENEY that relegated protestors to fenced-in places far from them and their sycophants....
Where was your outrage then?
as for no access to the courts, mostly agree, though there are some caveats to imprisoning US citizens... and the ACLU is on this... .
The repulsive obstructionist repugnicans, and the know-nothing tp are no alternatives, and Ron Paul is no libertarian when it comes to govt. regulation of women's bodies etc.
So ... run for congress!!!
 
 
+6 # xflowers 2012-01-25 18:02
Mark quotes Obama, "Be aware that every time he said to the members of Congress, "If you send me a bill ... I will sign it," that statement incorporates the word "if," so that may not qualify as a plan of action."

I thought it important to repeat the phrase "If you send me a bill, I will sign it" again and again because it illustrates the respective roles of Congress and the President to people who don't understand them. Also, by stating and restating this point, he challenges obstructionist Congress members to quit shirking their responsibilitie s. Finally, he did say that if they continue to do nothing, he would use the power of executive order and recess appointments as much as the constitution allows to get things done. To illustrate, he hailed his new consumer protection chief, Richard Cordoray. So, that's his action plan. It's about time.
 
 
-2 # John Locke 2012-01-26 07:39
xflowers: Don't you think its strange that after 3 years of accomplishing nothing, suddenly during the election for his second term he finds guts...get real right after the election it will be the same thing. If you have money you will be listened to, but for most, he ain't gonna hear yah...
 
 
-1 # colvictoria 2012-01-25 18:40
Watching the circus last night made me realize that except for OWS America is asleep. No I will not vote for the OBOMBonator. Perhaps what we need is Newt for president and then we will have an all out people's revolution. This rotten to the core 2 party system needs to come down and we need to build it from the bottom up.
 
 
-7 # NRESQ 2012-01-25 23:46
When are you ready to start? What have you been doing up until now? Waiting for someone else to do it for you? What? Too buys watching Jersey Shore?

Now I know what Rahm Emmanuel was talking about when he called folks like you "retarded". Sheesh!
 
 
+2 # colvictoria 2012-01-26 06:30
NRESQ
What is Jersey Shore?
Do you also use words like "retarded"?
I guess you and Rahm must be pals.
Do you also use the "F" word?
That is what Rahm said to our CTU president Karen Lewis.
If you are some kind of political activist I would never follow a person of your caliber.
 
 
+2 # Doubter 2012-01-27 00:25
Maybe he's an "agent provocateur."
 
 
0 # John Locke 2012-01-26 07:44
NRESQ: I have read several of your posts and even commented to them. But I find you to be less intelligent than many here, I have made that determination by your manner of attacck, you can't really state an opinion in full without resorting to some obtuse comment... look it up if you don't understand the meaning.
 
 
0 # economicminor 2012-01-26 07:54
Be careful what you wish for. Hitler was a Christian Social Democrat. Newt is nuts and a fraud. Romney is selfish, greedy and cares nothing for his fellow man. Ron Paul, who actually represents the only sane person running doesn't have a chance because he is to sane for a bunch of spoiled brats that now make up the American populous and media.
 
 
+1 # ABen 2012-01-25 20:09
Interesting set of comments on this post. Not too many wing-nuts and several good and thoughtful comments, but also a great deal of rather petulant and juvenile carping about Obama not meeting expectations. What, did you think the GOP would suddenly do an about face and embrace this young, intelligent black man? Did you think that Conservatives would just admit they were wrong during the Bush years and ask Obama how they could help? Either I am older than than my birthday would suggest or some of you people are really young!
 
 
+5 # Richard Raznikov 2012-01-25 22:01
Quoting
Interesting set of comments on this post. Not too many wing-nuts and several good and thoughtful comments, but also a great deal of rather petulant and juvenile carping about Obama not meeting expectations. What, did you think the GOP would suddenly do an about face and embrace this young, intelligent black man? Did you think that Conservatives would just admit they were wrong during the Bush years and ask Obama how they could help? Either I am older than than my birthday would suggest or some of you people are really young!


Don't know about your age, ABen, but I'm 65, old enough to remember quite a few Presidents and administrations . I was in politics, too, for many years. I'm not carping about someone 'not meeting (my) expectations' but about someone lying about nearly everything he once promised. This is NOT the 'obstructionism' of the GOP. For one thing, Obama had a solid majority in both houses for 2 years. For another, the claim that he needed 60 votes in the Senate is a ruse. Presidents have gotten around filibusters for 100 years, even when there was no such thing as cloture. Did the GOP force Obama to extend the outrageous Bush tax cuts? Open your eyes. The truth may be painful but it's better than hanging into your fantasy.
 
 
-1 # John Locke 2012-01-26 07:46
Richard Raznikov: Thank you, finally some light here...
 
 
+5 # nice2blucky 2012-01-25 22:12
Age and wisdom are not synonymous.

You have no idea how low my expectations were, which Obama failed to meet. It's not that he didn't rise to high execptations; he failed to meet low expectations.

And few, if any, are suggesting that Republicans have done anything but obstructionism. What is offensive are the lengths that Obama has gone to appease that which cannot be appeased enough -- as if it is Obama's agenda is to completely compromise away, or more accurately, obliterate, progressive issues.

Obama failed to defend the most basic progressive principles, after-which his operatives and legions of blind -- Republican-fearing -- supporters, many of whom ridiculed thier Bush-supporting counterparts as mindless, show audacity, not for hope, but, by casting vitriol against those, seemingly kindred spirits, who, rather than accept lofty, but hollow rhetoric and simplistic excuses, stand by principles and base judgement upon actions, in some cases, the lack of action, and failed strategies -- many of which seem to have been failure by design, and aren't frightened into subservience for what is (arguably, although I would argue, not) marginally better.

In other words, save your callow drivel for the choir. I look forward to your carping after the election.

And you should know, that you Opologists had the chance to be the difference earlier -- by supporting a Dem Primary Challenger -- and are to blame for the consequences.
 
 
+1 # John Locke 2012-01-26 07:48
nice2blucky: Fully agree with you, I wish othere would open their eyes, it might make a difference...
 
 
+1 # davehaze 2012-01-25 20:27
Look folks, you each only have one vote, you personally are not going to determine the president, so do you really feel it necessary to vote for Obama who has NOT represented you and is just a little less evil than the Republican who will also NOT represent you?

You will continue to vote for the lesser evil in every election in every decade until you are old enough NOT to collect social security because some Democratic president ended it?
 
 
+3 # Doubter 2012-01-27 00:38
I'm having second thoughts about not voting. If too many of us protest (as I believe(d)- we're liable to elect President Romney - and wouldn't that be a bitch!
 
 
+1 # davehaze 2012-01-25 20:31
Since I have a low threshold for being lied to I did not watch the speech but had no trouble imagining how pseudopopulist it would be.

To quote William Carlos Williams: The imagination knows all stories before they are told.
 
 
+1 # angelfish 2012-01-25 20:49
So...Romney or Gingrich will make a BETTER President? I don't get it. If the Left would get it's act together and deliver a Democratic House AND Senate to this President, WITHOUT any DINO's, MAYBE we'd see the change we've all been waiting for for so long! DON'T sit home on Election Day or throw your Vote to someone who hasn't a chance of winning! Support President Obama!
 
 
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-01-26 05:00
Without any DINOs is the problem.
 
 
+4 # RLF 2012-01-26 05:14
Maybe you don't get it...Rep. or Dem...THERE IS NO LEFT LEFT IN EITHER PARTY!
 
 
+4 # NRESQ 2012-01-25 23:39
Hey Richard Raznikov:

You prove my point. It is juvenile to lay all of the ills you point out at this President's feet. He did not commit to do those things you state. He is not perfect. The fact that your expectations (as naive as they are) have not been met does not mean that this President has failed.

Unbelievable. For those on this blog who say the President has not accomplished EVERYTHING you wanted him to in a little over 3 years is the flip side of the infantile Republican argument that the President hasn't "cured" the economy, eliminated joblessness, denuded Iran, and turned water into wine in the last 3 years. Both positions are stupid and immature (although, sadly, all too common in the American psyche--to have it ALL, NOW, AT NO COST)

I repeat: GROW UP! Politics is, unfortunately or not, the art of the possible. That means compromise. Those who are so rigid in their thinking that they are unwilling to compromise will find themselves marginalized and without influence. Stamp your feet all you want children; the President will continue to deal with the adults. And you'll get put to bed early (like you used to be when you acted up!)
 
 
+9 # NRESQ 2012-01-25 23:40
And for those who make such galactically stupid statements like, "Maybe its better to elect Newt and have a revolution", think about what this country would be like with 2 or 3 more Clarence Thomases on the Supreme Court. Those are LIFETIME appointments, folks. If you liked CITIZENS UNITED, you ain't seen nothing yet!
 
 
+3 # colvictoria 2012-01-26 06:40
NRESQ This country is already crumbling and we will be like Spain, Greece, Italy it is just a matter of time (read the Soros piece) . It is puzzling how you put so much faith and confidence in the role of the presidency. Do you not know that presidents are mere puppets to the real powers that be? Do you know who runs our economy? not Obama THE FED that's who. Who is the FED? Children here is your homework assignment a report on what is the Federal Reserve Bank due tomorrow.
READ AND WEEP NRESQ!
 
 
+1 # RMDC 2012-01-26 04:50
I did not watch the speech or read its text because I am too tired of listening to Obama's platitudes. But I did hear on the radio that Obama did not mention the OWS movement by name. He would have helped himself a lot if he would have acknowledged this movement and the problems in the US that it is highlighting.
 
 
+5 # historywriter 2012-01-26 09:38
Why the hell not read it if you want to comment? I read things that I'm tired of reading -- "platitudes," not to mention idiocies, things I have to hold my nose to read -- to find out what these people are saying, on both sides. Once in a while something comes along that you are interested in or that is in fact new. Happens. don't comment on something you know nothing about.
 
 
-2 # John Locke 2012-01-26 14:37
RMDC: with all due respect, Obama did not mention OWS, because he helped end the occupy encampments through Homeland security...He is not promoting the first amendment he is attempting to quash it. He is promoting the puppet government he is leading. "Well sort of leading"...
 
 
+5 # JCM 2012-01-26 10:51
There are plenty of problems with the President. The biggest one is the Republicans. All of you who are extremely critical of the President are doing exactly what the Republicans want you to do. Keep complaining and the Republicans dreams will come true. Then you will have even more to complain about.
 
 
-3 # Cabbagehead 2012-01-26 17:50
The Obama campaign so far offers only FEAR of the Republicans as a reason to accept Obama's empty promises, avoidance of the Drone Wars, Climate Change, continued torture programs (e.g. Pvt. Manning), accepting corporate funding (Citizens United hyprocicy), desertion of his kiddie base, use of banking and GE cronies--the list of his significant omissions goes on. It was a sunshiny talk with clever shifts of military bloating to clean energy, undercutting Rommney's middleman stance so far that the right wing has to send in Slugger Newt, who will disgust the middle further and Obama will win by default. Good strategy, but the result will still be repackaged Obama 2010 the elephant in the donkey suit. Vote for any 3rd or 4th party on your ballot, but vote because many people died for your right to vote when voting mattered. The revolution will come no matter who is elected. The system needs a reality check. Maybe Iran will prove what Iraq did not and Afghanistan has not, that same old does not work, even for the one per cent. All the revoltuions of the past had precusor events and still they occurred. No one believed if could happen, but it has, time and again. Who reads history nowadays?
 

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