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Desmond Tutu writes: "We are supposed to proclaim the God of love, but we have been guilty as Christians of sowing hatred and suspicion; we commend the one whom we call the Prince of Peace, and yet as Christians we have fought more wars than we care to remember. We have claimed to be a fellowship of compassion and caring and sharing, but as Christians we often sanctify sociopolitical systems that belie this, where the rich grow ever richer and the poor grow ever poorer."

The Dalai Lama and Archbishop Desmond Tutu share a lighthearted moment at a panel discussion at the University of Washington in Seattle, 04/15/08. (photo: File)
The Dalai Lama and Archbishop Desmond Tutu share a lighthearted moment at a panel discussion at the University of Washington in Seattle, 04/15/08. (photo: File)




God Is Not a Christian

By Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Reader Supported News

02 June 11

 

The following is excerpted from the Archbishop Desmond Tutu's new book, "God Is Not A Christian: And Other Provocations." This talk also comes from a forum in Britain, where Tutu addressed leaders of different faiths during a mission to the city of Birmingham in 1989.

hey tell the story of a drunk who crossed the street and accosted a pedestrian, asking him, "I shay, which ish the other shide of the shtreet?" The pedestrian, somewhat nonplussed, replied, "That side, of course!" The drunk said, "Shtrange. When I wash on that shide, they shaid it wash thish shide." Where the other side of the street is depends on where we are. Our perspective differs with our context, the things that have helped to form us; and religion is one of the most potent of these formative influences, helping to determine how and what we apprehend of reality and how we operate in our own specific context.

My first point seems overwhelmingly simple: that the accidents of birth and geography determine to a very large extent to what faith we belong. The chances are very great that if you were born in Pakistan you are a Muslim, or a Hindu if you happened to be born in India, or a Shintoist if it is Japan, and a Christian if you were born in Italy. I don't know what significant fact can be drawn from this - perhaps that we should not succumb too easily to the temptation to exclusiveness and dogmatic claims to a monopoly of the truth of our particular faith. You could so easily have been an adherent of the faith that you are now denigrating, but for the fact that you were born here rather than there.

My second point is this: not to insult the adherents of other faiths by suggesting, as sometimes has happened, that for instance when you are a Christian the adherents of other faiths are really Christians without knowing it. We must acknowledge them for who they are in all their integrity, with their conscientiously held beliefs; we must welcome them and respect them as who they are and walk reverently on what is their holy ground, taking off our shoes, metaphorically and literally. We must hold to our particular and peculiar beliefs tenaciously, not pretending that all religions are the same, for they are patently not the same. We must be ready to learn from one another, not claiming that we alone possess all truth and that somehow we have a corner on God.

We should in humility and joyfulness acknowledge that the supernatural and divine reality we all worship in some form or other transcends all our particular categories of thought and imagining, and that because the divine - however named, however apprehended or conceived - is infinite and we are forever finite, we shall never comprehend the divine completely. So we should seek to share all insights we can and be ready to learn, for instance, from the techniques of the spiritual life that are available in religions other than our own. It is interesting that most religions have a transcendent reference point, a mysterium tremendum, that comes to be known by deigning to reveal itself, himself, herself, to humanity; that the transcendent reality is compassionate and concerned; that human beings are creatures of this supreme, supra mundane reality in some way, with a high destiny that hopes for an everlasting life lived in close association with the divine, either as absorbed without distinction between creature and creator, between the divine and human, or in a wonderful intimacy which still retains the distinctions between these two orders of reality.

When we read the classics of the various religions in matters of prayer, meditation, and mysticism, we find substantial convergence, and that is something to rejoice at. We have enough that conspires to separate us; let us celebrate that which unites us, that which we share in common.

Surely it is good to know that God (in the Christian tradition) created us all (not just Christians) in his image, thus investing us all with infinite worth, and that it was with all humankind that God entered into a covenant relationship, depicted in the covenant with Noah when God promised he would not destroy his creation again with water. Surely we can rejoice that the eternal word, the Logos of God, enlightens everyone - not just Christians, but everyone who comes into the world; that what we call the Spirit of God is not a Christian preserve, for the Spirit of God existed long before there were Christians, inspiring and nurturing women and men in the ways of holiness, bringing them to fruition, bringing to fruition what was best in all. We do scant justice and honor to our God if we want, for instance, to deny that Mahatma Gandhi was a truly great soul, a holy man who walked closely with God. Our God would be too small if he was not also the God of Gandhi: if God is one, as we believe, then he is the only God of all his people, whether they acknowledge him as such or not. God does not need us to protect him. Many of us perhaps need to have our notion of God deepened and expanded. It is often said, half in jest, that God created man in his own image and man has returned the compliment, saddling God with his own narrow prejudices and exclusivity, foibles and temperamental quirks. God remains God, whether God has worshippers or not.

This mission in Birmingham to which I have been invited is a Christian celebration, and we will make our claims for Christ as unique and as the Savior of the world, hoping that we will live out our beliefs in such a way that they help to commend our faith effectively. Our conduct far too often contradicts our profession, however. We are supposed to proclaim the God of love, but we have been guilty as Christians of sowing hatred and suspicion; we commend the one whom we call the Prince of Peace, and yet as Christians we have fought more wars than we care to remember. We have claimed to be a fellowship of compassion and caring and sharing, but as Christians we often sanctify sociopolitical systems that belie this, where the rich grow ever richer and the poor grow ever poorer, where we seem to sanctify a furious competitiveness, ruthless as can only be appropriate to the jungle.

 

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+60 # portiz 2011-06-02 08:44
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one.
 
 
+48 # zenhula 2011-06-02 10:02
As Ghandi wisely stated: god has no religion
 
 
+15 # Mildred McGuire 2011-06-02 14:05
God has no religion and NO borders. It all belongs to HIM. We have greedily almost destroyed this beautiful earth and erected borders to maintain our selfish interests. Yes, created in His image but NOT recognizable. Christian no longer means Christ-like even as a goal.
 
 
+7 # Drake 2011-06-02 19:35
As I've said, I belong to no religion; I belong to God.
Why do we need anything else?
 
 
+1 # RSJ 2011-06-05 16:54
Or, as Anonymous once said, "I belong to no religion; I am an American."
 
 
+1 # RSJ 2011-06-05 16:52
Or, as Emerson wrote, "Conscientious people all over the world [are] of one religion."
 
 
+24 # Dave W. 2011-06-02 14:02
portiz, "And no religion too" John Lennon "was" a dreamer. And his dreams, carried through the medium of music, envisioned a world of peace. I believe he also had another message in this song. Imagine, he said, a world where people took responsibility for their own actions. A world where "imaginary" deities could "not" be called upon to substantiate or castigate the actions of others. A "you broke it, you buy it" type of responsibility. We've "hid" behind various religions for centuries using them whenever we gain in doing so, ignoring them when it doesn't suit our particular goals at the time. Whatever God turns out to be, or conversely not to be, God is NOT standing alongside some bejeweled charlatan at a Colorado Springs Megachurch any more than God/Allah is asking young people to strap explosives to their bodies and blow up fellow human beings. God did NOT bless America anymore than God blessed people living in Africa, China, Europe, The Middle East or anywhere the footprint of man has settled into the soils of our Earth. We'll either move beyond our invented notions of superiority and inferiority or we will cease to exist as a species. "Imagine there's no heaven"...perhaps we've been standing on it all along. And Hell is what we're turning it in to. Lennon asked us all to "Imagine." Archbishop Tutu asks us all to unite as human beings seeking a "common cause." I can dream too.
 
 
+11 # Tad 2011-06-03 06:17
Well, I've always thought it a little presumptuous and backwards ..God Bless America ..when it is actually supposed to be ..America Bless God
 
 
+4 # Mazzoni 2011-06-04 10:27
well said!!
 
 
+2 # RSJ 2011-06-05 16:57
@ Dave W.: Good comment. We seem to be edging, ever so slowly, toward realizing John Lennon's dream. I hope we live to see it.
 
 
+27 # sark 2011-06-02 09:02
Beautiful! Absolutely Beautiful!
My heart and soul delight in this wonderful message!
Thank you RSN for this article.
Peace,
Sark
 
 
+47 # Rolando Chacón 2011-06-02 09:07
In the words of Gandhi: "Everybody knows about Christianity, except the Christians."
 
 
+5 # RSJ 2011-06-05 17:04
As Gandhi also said: "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

As Mark Twain put it: "Christians go to church on Sunday to be forgiven for what they did on Saturday and will do again on Monday."

Our biggest problem in this country, and the true 'root of all evil,' is hypocrisy. Jesus had a great deal to say about that subject, most of which is ignored by today's Christians, especially those of the fundamentalist variety.
 
 
+20 # John Gill 2011-06-02 09:15
Beautiful. Archbishop Tutu, for my part, is right up there with His Holiness the Dalai Lama, and Meister Eckhart. Wonderful words out of which shine truth and light and hint at the essential nature of the human being in such a way as to give some hope for the future. Thanks for posting this article RSN.
 
 
+17 # boudreaux 2011-06-02 09:32
The only thing that I can think of is what God says in the Bible and that is that; My ways are not your ways and you will never know my ways.
 
 
+6 # AndreM5 2011-06-03 08:16
Which Bible?
 
 
+2 # RSJ 2011-06-05 17:19
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
-- Isaiah 45:7

The Greek philosopher Epicurus had this view, sometimes called a 'trilemma':

"If God is unable to prevent evil, he is not omnipotent;
if God is not willing to prevent evil, he is not good;
if God is willing and able to prevent evil, then why is there evil?"
 
 
+13 # albertberman 2011-06-02 09:56
"real" Americans aren't gonna like this
 
 
+15 # John Hoaglund 2011-06-02 12:05
Good! They need to be nudged out of their cave.
 
 
+10 # Real American 2011-06-02 20:16
"Real" American? I was born and raised in America by an American family, and I like this perfectly. Don't confuse bigots and Americans. They're not the same.
 
 
+16 # Kenwood 2011-06-02 11:05
There are no boundaries. There are no exclusions. No barred gates. No doorkeeper. Just compassion.
 
 
+5 # kalpal 2011-06-02 12:29
A god who has a covenant with the Jews has a son by a jewish mother who becomes a rabbi and is murdered by some romans. Now this god who gave his word to be faithful to the jews, a religion he created, somehow decides to shift over to the pagans who worship his son and who insist on disregardng his prohibition against graven images because, well, because they are still pagans and happen to love graven images. They also see fit to go around and murder Jews who this god gave his word to in his covenant and he just sloughs off his previous commitments and hangs out with pagans who believe silly things about him and his son.
 
 
+1 # RSJ 2011-06-06 13:58
@ kalpal: Jesus (Yeshua) was a Jewish Rabbi preaching to Jews and he didn't have much good to say about gentiles, i.e.: most of the current Christians; it was chiefly Paul who spread the word of Jesus beyond the Jewish community.

There is also doubt the New Testament Jesus ever existed; the Romans, who kept excellent records, document no execution by Pontius Pilate as described in the NT, and the only mention of Jesus in records of the time is a paragraph by Jewish-Roman historian Flavius Josephus, but many scholars believe, due to the shift in writing style, that that was a forgery added later. The Essenes' Teacher of Righteousness, with a similar philosophy to Jesus, was crucified around the same time, and some historians think his story became part of the mythos of Jesus, just as pagan holidays were incorporated into Christianity as Christmas and Easter.

A sad irony if contemporary so-called Christians are worshipping and expecting to be ushered into heaven by a man who never existed.

Flavius Josephus:
http://www.livius.org/jo-jz/josephus/josephus.htm
 
 
-4 # spiritcallsus 2011-06-02 14:02
""When we read the classics of the various religions in matters of prayer, meditation, and mysticism, we find substantial convergence, and that is something to rejoice at. We have enough that conspires to separate us; let us celebrate that which unites us, that which we share in common.""

What we actually share in common is a generic SPIRIT ... designated the (=) in the Trinity of (+=-) ...no religious BRAND required.

GOD, ultimate truth ... God and god(s), less and lesser truths. (see @ www.jck.gather.com )
 
 
+6 # jerrymat 2011-06-02 14:19
A most convoluted argument that says that every religion worships the same god, so we should accept the existence of each others' religion. An alternate and somewhat more tidy argument is that the existence of so many disagreeing religions shows religion itself to be an illusion of the primitive mind. We are never truly free of such superstition until we acknowledge the truth of atheism.
 
 
+2 # Davidm312hotmail.com 2011-06-05 12:13
Have a large group of friends that agree...
 
 
+10 # J.Lind 2011-06-02 15:33
Ego and Ignorance are our most dangerous character traits.

We founded civilization and then we invented "Religion" and have been going downhill ever since.

More humans have died in the name of God than any other method of mass slaughter.
 
 
0 # RSJ 2011-06-05 17:25
@ JLind: Organized religion helped civilize people thousands of years ago but it has outlived its usefulness, mutating into a vehicle mainly to raise money and affect our political world.
 
 
+3 # ARSENIUS39 2011-06-03 05:53
Jerrymat said:

"We are never truly free of such superstition until we acknowledge the truth of atheism."

....which is NOT a religion (Wink, wink, nudge,nudge).
 
 
+3 # AndreM5 2011-06-03 08:19
It's an "ism" so it also contains an element of "faith."
 
 
+2 # RICHARDKANEpa 2011-06-05 10:19
One thing that surprises me about former Archbishop Desmond Tutu. He is a real hero of mine who contemplated the kind of work Martin Luther King and Gandhi started, with his South African Truth Commissions. However he was shouting and dancing around in South American Green like an ordinary fan when South Africa won the World Cup. Then recently he condemned the celebration following the breaking of bin Laden’s death is victory spell,


To me its weird but I guess to some of the rest of the readers that I got reality backward.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5272227/ce/us/desmond-tutu-believes-world-cup-greater-impact-1995-rugby-win&cc=5901?ver=us
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/street/2011/05/12/tutu-dismayed-by-gloating-over-bin-ladens-death/

To me its weird but to others on this blog I guess it means I got my reality backwards
 
 
+1 # Monty Gee 2011-06-06 04:21
The problem with Archbishop Tutu's first point, i.e. about the accidence of one's birth in a given ethnic, geographical, cultural context is that, to the True Believer, the accidence is not accidental. God willed him/her to be born in that context, which is His Chosen One and thereby confers exceptional grace on him/her. Thereafter, there's no room for reasonable dissent!
 
 
+3 # Robyn 2011-06-06 16:32
Religion is a sad joke played on God. God has no religion he is love, he is tolerance and he sees us all as one people. It's mankind that introduced the poison of religion.
 
 
+2 # JBC 2011-06-08 13:57
Speaking of humankind, if the earth existed without human presence, would there still be a "God" or is that something else we invented?
 
 
+2 # Peacedragon 2011-06-06 21:52
Portiz:
That has been my favorite song for a long time. Of course there may never be "no religion" but perhaps no fighting over religion.
 
 
0 # omobabaodofin 2011-07-25 23:13
Discourses like Bishop Tutu's tend to energise people who believe in no god or believe that all men worship the same god.
While religion is man's invention relationship with God is what distinguishes the faithful. Men and women with noble hearts have walked on this planet but "works" alone do NOT save. 'Filthy rags'.
Any religion that enslaves, murders the innocents, defrauds, discriminates, ignores the poor or founded on spurious claims is man's contraption. Today many are disillusioned because so-called Christians are hypocrites, worshipping Mammon and leading the flock to hell. "Christian" and "Church" are so cheap that, like George Orwell's Animal Farm, the animals looking in cannot tell the difference between man and pig.
Yet, let every man be a liar, God is ever faithful. He, alone, is seeking Man.
@RSV, yes, the New Testament may be an invention but the Old Testament, such as was found at Quimran (Dead Sea Scrolls) with its book of Isaiah complete, told of a coming Branch of the root of Jesse, a Wonderful Saviour, the Prince of Peace. God, in Genesis, was addressing someone, "Let US make man in OUR image".
"When Jesus comes to reward..." - a hymn.
 

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